[NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
Sanho Steele-Louchart
sanho817 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 20 15:55:53 UTC 2023
Mike,
It also might be worth looking through Blind.org and the larger
website, NFB.org. I always recommend people know exactly who we are
and who we're not.
Sanho
On 3/20/23, marianne denning via NFB-Braille-Discussion
<nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I don't think every state has a parents' division. If your state does not
> you could get involved in the National Organization of Parents of Blind
> Children (NOPBC) where most of the parents have children who are blind.
> There is also a blind parents group. Which group interests you?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On
> Behalf Of Mike Jolls via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 9:38 AM
> To: NFB Braille Discussion List <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Mike Jolls <mrspock56 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>
> Regarding getting these stories up in the NFB library and available to
> others, does anybody know the process you have to follow to do that? For
> example, who do you talk to get these stories approved? What is the
> submittal process? What is the best group to publish these within so
> they’re available to the most people? How much technical expertise do you
> need to do this (e.g. do you need to know how to use FTP, or some other
> technologies)?
>
> Also, I’d be interested in getting involved in the parent’s division as
> mentioned in this thread, but I’m not currently involved in the NFB. Does
> that limit my access? And if it does, how do you get connected?
>
>
>
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> From: Debbie Gabe via
> NFB-Braille-Discussion<mailto:nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023 10:21 PM
> To: 'NFB Braille Discussion List'<mailto:nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Debbie Gabe<mailto:dgabe808 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>
> I want to suggest that someone take the lead and get these stories ublished,
> either in Future Reflections, or the Braille Monitor, or in a separate
> booklet. Too bad the NFB no longer publishes Kernel Books. Others, sighted
> and blind, adults and kids, teachers and parents, need to read these kinds
> of stories. If I had the time and knew what to do, I would do something, but
> there is too much going on in my life now with my husband having serious
> medical problems and babysitting my 6 month old grandson full time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On
> Behalf Of marianne denning via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 9:46 AM
> To: 'NFB Braille Discussion List' <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: marianne at denningweb.com
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>
> I lived in a farming community about 40 miles outside of Wichita, KS and
> began my education in the early 60s. I attended my local public school and
> they did the best they knew how to do. I have extremely limited vision and
> should have learned braille beginning in first grade but that didn't happen.
> The school district contacted a TVI and they attempted to introduce braille
> when I was in the 5th grade but I wanted nothing to do with it so it was
> dropped and reintroduced when I was in 7th grade. By then, I was so excited
> to learn it that I progressed on teaching myself between lessons with my
> TVI. I learned all of the code by the end of 7th grade and had my first
> braille textbook in 8th grade. I loved it. I could read chapters at my own
> speed and read them over as many times as I wanted. I learned to read but my
> writing lagged far behind my reading. I also did not learn Nemeth code and
> no one thought it was important for me to learn. That is very sad because I
> am strong in math and could have progressed much faster with Nemeth code. I
> just didn't think to ask about it. I think attending a public school was the
> right choice since I lived over 200 miles from the Kansas School for the
> Blind but it certainly came with limitations too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On
> Behalf Of Jody ianuzzi via NFB-Braille-Discussion
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 1:31 PM
> To: NFB Braille Discussion List <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jody ianuzzi <thunderwalker321 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>
> Congratulations! What a great story!
>
> Yes, when I was in seventh grade they put me in remedial reading classes
> because I had such a slow reading speed. Do you think it would’ve occurred
> to them it was because I couldn’t see!
>
> JODY
>
> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻
>
>
> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>
> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS Erik
> Weihenmayer
>
>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Chiming in to say that when I was fourteen, I had a two-degree field
>> with sub-acuity vision and severe sensitivity to glare. They put me in
>> special ed math classes and gave me five inch tall equations written
>> in thick black marker on mint green construction paper. I had to put
>> my face to the paper and trace each leg of every letter and number,
>> then still lose track of what I was reading. It was horrible. And then
>> I learned braille.
>>
>> Suddenly I could do the work faster and better than my sighted peers.
>> My comprehension was never the problem. The problem was access. ended
>> up back in general ed, accelerating my math and science programs,
>> graduating early, and getting a degree in bio-cultural anthropology.
>> When I went totally blind partway through, it was irrelevant. Then I
>> continued on and earned a master's in O&M and a doctorate in law.
>>
>> No one is more of a braille advocate than I am. I just wish I'd
>> learned sooner and didn't have to develop speed as an adult.
>>
>> sanho
>>
>>> On 3/18/23, Jody ianuzzi via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Oh having an eye vision to get in trouble is definitely a negative
>>> entire at times. When I was in college the totally blind students had
>>> the skills they needed to succeed and I didn’t Space have those skills!
>>>
>>> JODY
>>>
>>> To Boldly Go 🖖🏻
>>>
>>>
>>> thunderwalker321 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way." NO BARRIERS
>>> Erik Weihenmayer
>>>
>>>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 1:05 AM, marianne denning via
>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The message all legally blind people receive is that the more
>>>> vision you have the higher you are on the acceptance by sighted
>>>> people ladder. That has always been the case and will continue for
>>>> the foreseeable future. I have come to the conclusion that people
>>>> with some useable vision get the worst of both worlds when they
>>>> should get the best of both worlds. You should have been encouraged
>>>> to use your vision when it was helpful but taught those nonvisual
>>>> skills because those are the ones you can always rely upon. I
>>>> strongly encourage you to share your blindness journey with all
>>>> families you meet. Your story can be impactful to parents of
>>>> children who are legally blind but have usable vision.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org>
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Mike Jolls via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 8:56 AM
>>>> To: NFB Braille Discussion List <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Mike Jolls <mrspock56 at hotmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>>>>
>>>> Debbie Gabe
>>>>
>>>> I read your email with great interest. I'm 66 years old. I've been
>>>> legally blind my entire life. Due to the educational system I went
>>>> through, I was taught to read print since I could see (although I'm
>>>> severely nearsighted and my vision makes me a slow reader). I did
>>>> not have the opportunity to learn Braille in my early years. Being
>>>> a partially sighted person, the answer was always "make it bigger
>>>> with magnification", "get a stronger pair of glasses", and so on.
>>>> This was the mentality of the sighted community because sight was
>>>> what they understood. And so I lived my life, until around age 50,
>>>> after trying these methods over and over, that I realized that there
>>>> was a limit to how well I could read if I used my vision. It dawned
>>>> on me that if I was ever going to overcome my reading deficiency, I
>>>> had to find a method that didn't use my eyesight. What an epiphany
>>>> that was!!
>>>>
>>>> Enter Braille.
>>>>
>>>> I started learning Braille at age 50. It was definitely an
>>>> "eye-opener", because it did exactly what I realized an alternate
>>>> method would have to do.
>>>> It bypassed the vision and removed the barrier that bad vision
>>>> imposes. I was hopeful that Braille would allow me to improve my
>>>> reading speed. I've been on that quest since then, and as I say,
>>>> I'm now 66. Unfortunately, I haven't achieved a reading speed I
>>>> would like to have (say 150 words per minute), but it's not for a
>>>> lack of trying. Perhaps as you say . when you're older and starting
>>>> out, you may not achieve speeds that a younger person will achieve
>>>> when they start reading at age 6. I think this is similar to playing
>>>> the piano which I started seriously studying at age 60.
>>>> It's a lot easier to soak it up when you're younger, but that's
>>>> another topic that could spawn a different conversation, so I'll stop
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> These days I read Braille primarily with a Braille display. You
>>>> mention that you need to read hardcopy Braille, but I find the supply is
>>>> limited.
>>>> The NLS has made the decision that 85 percent of its reading
>>>> material will be in audible format, and the other 15 percent will
>>>> either be in electronic braille format or hardcopy braille. That
>>>> leaves us readers who are interested in Braille out in the cold.
>>>> Bookshare is of course another option.
>>>>
>>>> In summary, I wish I had been given the opportunity to learn braille
>>>> at a younger age, but that's water under the bridge at this point.
>>>> All I can do is read as much as I can. But I still stand behind my
>>>> conviction that to improve reading for a partially sighted person
>>>> (and certainly for a totally blind person), braille is the answer,
>>>> and the sooner you embrace it and the more you use it, the better
>>>> off you'll be.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for posting your email. It was interesting reading.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Jolls
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: Debbie Gabe via
>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion<mailto:nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2023 12:28 AM
>>>> To: 'NFB Braille Discussion
>>>> List'<mailto:nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Debbie Gabe<mailto:dgabe808 at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I came into this conversation late. I'm not sure how old you are.
>>>> I learned braille when I was 55 years old. I practiced every chance I
>>>> got.
>>>> I
>>>> took my braille book to appointments where I thought I might have to
>>>> wait.
>>>> I
>>>> read in my husband's care, on the bus, during TV commercials in the
>>>> evening, anytime I had a few minutes to spare. Now at 72 years old,
>>>> I still have not yet broken 100 words a minute, but I am always in
>>>> the middle of at least 2 braille novels. I make labels for
>>>> everything in braille. I write notes to myself. For several years,
>>>> before I finally retired, I taught braille.
>>>>
>>>> If you are ""older", then you might not end up reading as fast as
>>>> someone who learns braille at a younger age, but you can still make
>>>> it useful and enjoyable.
>>>>
>>>> But you do have to practice every single day as much as you can. If
>>>> I go a couple days without reading braille, I notice my reading
>>>> speed is so much slower, it frustrates me.
>>>>
>>>> And you need to use good reading technique, Read with both hands,
>>>> all 8 fingers on the line of braille. Don't red with the fingertips,
>>>> but more between the tips and the pads of the fingers.
>>>> And you will increase your speed faster if you read hard copy books
>>>> rather than electronic braille displays where there is only a single
>>>> line at a time.
>>>> And keep your touch light, don't "scrub", etc. I'm sure you've heard
>>>> all those things.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, Jerry Whittle, used to teach braille for over 30 years to
>>>> adults at the Louisiana Center for the blind. He wrote a bunch of
>>>> articles that were published in magazines from the NFB: the Braille
>>>> Monitor, etc. Do a google search for him. He died a while ago, but
>>>> his articles are still out there.
>>>> He has several on increasing reading speed.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>> And if you are free on the 4th Saturdays of each month, the NFB of
>>>> Hawaii holds a zoom meeting called All About Braille. I am the host.
>>>> We discuss anything and everything about braille, , including
>>>> increasing reading speed.
>>>> If interested, email me personally at debbiegabe at live.com and I will
>>>> send you the zoom link. It takes place at 10 am Hawaii time (1 pm
>>>> west coast time, and 4 pm eastern time).
>>>>
>>>> Best.
>>>> Debbie Gabe
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org>
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Ramona via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 10:05 AM
>>>> To: Sanho Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: Ramona <walhoframona at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>>>>
>>>> Reading every day as much as possible is essential. You are not
>>>> going to give up other forms of reading; you cannot get everything
>>>> in Braille, anyway. Find a magazine you enjoy in Braille, some
>>>> books, some business reports-you pick. Two experiences worth
>>>> sharing: 1. A Braille student came to me for a recipe and took it down
>>>> using her slate and stylus. She said:
>>>> I
>>>> am going to college and want my noses in Braille, but I am too slow.
>>>> I
>>>> answered: Make yourself write them with the slate and stylus. Most
>>>> freshmen do not have notetaking mastered, and you can share your
>>>> notes with others, so do the best you can and see how fast you
>>>> improve. At Christmas break she came back for another recipe and
>>>> wrote it on the slate like a pro. I said:
>>>> Carolyn, you did it! She barely knew what I was talking about, but
>>>> she had taken notes with the slate and stylusin in all of her
>>>> classes for one semester and truly had no more concerns about speed.
>>>> Second example: We had a student with a phD who was losing vision so
>>>> was a fast reader in print.
>>>> She was determined to build speed in Braille. She took two hours of
>>>> braille during the day and read two more hours each evening 7 days a
>>>> week. It took her about 3 weeks to cover the entire Braille code,
>>>> and then she began reading whatever she wished. At the end of six
>>>> months she took a timed reading test and read 150 words per minute.
>>>> She said the effort was worth the results. That was the right time
>>>> for her to do it. Students who learn as children keep up their speed
>>>> pretty easily. If the speed has increased as an adult, you need to
>>>> keep on reading regularly to maintain it.
>>>> suggestions on technique: pet the Braille lightly and keep your
>>>> fingers moving to the right, so you are getting part from context,
>>>> but do not go back and worry about single words, so your muscle
>>>> memory is being developped. 2. Get identical texts of Braille and
>>>> recorded material. Set the player just a little faster than you can
>>>> read the Braille and make yourself keep up. 3. If you did not get
>>>> the sense from context, read the entire page again, keeping up your
>>>> speed, three or four times if necessary. It will come! Mabel Nading
>>>> and I did lots of testing of speed building at the Iowa Commission
>>>> for the Blind in the 1970's. Some of our students taught us a lot by
>>>> their success. Determination and discipline make a huge difference.
>>>> I think some of this stuff is in the Braille Monitor somewhere.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Ramona
>>>>> On Mar 15, 2023 1:09 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sahar,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you. Agreed on all counts. I really want to move to reading
>>>>> everything in braille as long as it isn't time-sensitive, but I've
>>>>> been using my screen-reader at 850 words a minute for almost twenty
>>>>> years. Going back to 40 or 60WPM is incredibly
>>>>> difficult--especially given the neurological fatigue that comes with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/15/23, Sahar Husseini via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Practice really is key. I used to tell my students. Sighted people
>>>>>> see print everywhere. It is literally on everything. You have to
>>>>>> read braille every day. Some people tell me that's hard to do, but
>>>>>> that really is what it takes. I never understood how kids took
>>>>>> braille class for one day a week. I was lucky that everything in
>>>>>> school was in braille. For me to get faster, I had to read
>>>>>> everything in braille. Of course, now, I am 110 years old, so I
>>>>>> don't know that kids get everything in braille these days. It's
>>>>>> sad how much focus is on audio. Some of us don't comprehend as
>>>>>> well on
>>>> audio. Ok, I'm not quite 110, lol.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of David
>>>>>> Andrews via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 1:26 PM
>>>>>> To: 'NFB Braille Discussion List'
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: dandrews920 at comcast.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not an expert in Braille learning -- however, I remember some
>>>>>> articles in the Braille Monitor in the 90's about adults learning
>>>>>> Braille and increasing their speed. I think the recommendations
>>>>>> are generally that you need to read each and every day, for an
>>>>>> hour if possible. I remember one person saying it took them two
>>>>>> years to build
>>>> up their speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not trying to discourage you, but if you go weeks or months
>>>>>> without reading Braille, you won't get faster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho
>>>>>> Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 10:56 AM
>>>>>> To: NFB Braille Discussion List
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right now, approximately zero minutes a day on average. I have
>>>>>> weeks where I read 10 pages a day and months where I don't touch
>>>>>> braille at all. I definitely need to build consistency there. I'm
>>>>>> currently reading at about 60WPM. Enough to enjoy and understand
>>>>>> what I'm reading, but nowhere near what I read when I was sighted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/15/23, marianne denning via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you know anyone who can watch you as you read and make
>>>>>>> suggestions?
>>>>>>> Many people have increased reading speed. How much time do you
>>>>>>> spend reading each day?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sanho
>>>>>>> Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 11:13 AM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Braille Discussion List
>>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart <sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks. I'm compiling the list now in text and braille for people
>>>>>>> to use as they wish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To clarify, I'm not looking for techniques. I'm looking for how
>>>>>>> long it takes to increase speed and by what amount we can do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>> Sanho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/15/23, Mike Jolls via NFB-Braille-Discussion
>>>>>>> <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have been working on increasing Braille reading speed as well .
>>>>>>>> here are my tips
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't scrub
>>>>>>>> Light touch
>>>>>>>> Read things that don't have words that are too difficult at
>>>>>>>> first All fingers on the Braille as you read.
>>>>>>>> Both hands start the line and move together across the line -
>>>>>>>> but right eventually separates from left and finishes while left
>>>>>>>> goes to next line ready to read (this means there's no time lost
>>>>>>>> between right hand finishing and next line starting to be read)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmm . practicing the frequently read words . I'd be interested
>>>>>>>> in getting a list of those myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another tip, make sure you practice reading every day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And here are a couple of more things (if you're reading on a
>>>>>>>> braille display with a screen reader such as Jaws) Put the
>>>>>>>> braille display in "auto advance" mode and read a document. The
>>>>>>>> screen reader will automatically advance to the next line and
>>>>>>>> refresh the display with the next line of text. This will force you
>>>>>>>> to keep up.
>>>>>>>> You may need to set the auto advance speed so it's slow enough
>>>>>>>> at first so you can keep up with it. Then as you get better,
>>>>>>>> set it a bit faster. It's like taking a shorthand class where
>>>>>>>> the teacher keeps making you go faster.
>>>>>>>> You do get faster as time goes on. I'm still working on this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Second tip for the braille display. In your screen reader
>>>>>>>> software, set the left and right panning buttons so that forward
>>>>>>>> panning is the LEFT button, not the right button. By default
>>>>>>>> (at least in Jaws), Jaws has assigned the forward pan function
>>>>>>>> to the right panning button on the display. But this means that
>>>>>>>> you have to move your hand to the right side of the display in
>>>>>>>> order to pan. And when you're on a short line, it takes a
>>>>>>>> second or two to do that. Result is that you lose a couple of
>>>>>>>> seconds every time you have to move your hand to the right side
>>>>>>>> of the display. By switching the forward pan function to the
>>>>>>>> left button, you don't have to move your right hand to the end
>>>>>>>> of the display to press the pan forward button. Your left hand
>>>>>>>> is always there on the left button, so it takes less time to pan
>>>>>>>> forward. This will save a little time (every bit helps) but the
>>>>>>>> majority of your time savings
>>>> will be in the tips before this one.
>>>>>>>> This one will take a bit of getting used to, but I have it from
>>>>>>>> another blind user that this is the way to go. Saving the
>>>>>>>> second or two on each line seems to make sense, so give it a try.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hope I've explained this adequately and good luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Incidentally, for those in the NFB group, any comments are
>>>>>>>> welcome regarding what I've said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Sanho Steele-Louchart via
>>>>>>>> NFB-Braille-Discussion<mailto:nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2023 8:15 AM
>>>>>>>> To: NFB Braille Discussion
>>>>>>>> List<mailto:nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Cc: Sanho Steele-Louchart<mailto:sanho817 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [NFB-Braille-Discussion] Reading Speed Increases
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there any kind of a science to when and by how much
>>>>>>>> significant reading gains will happen? I'm currently reading
>>>>>>>> braille at about a fifth the speed I want to. I'll practice as much
>>>>>>>> as I need to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Warmth,
>>>>>>>> Sanho
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