[NFB-Braille-Discussion] Immersion

Wed Apr 24 20:40:13 UTC 2024

Hi all!
That makes sence. There are also those who translate it or write translation software and who makes other kinds of braille tech. Not all braille translators actually knows braille. They only know the tech that does the actual translation work. I know at least one person under this cadigory. They can do it but they can’t check their own handy work, which is a disadvantage whenever problems crop up.
Kendra

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Don’t forget sightedcomputer programmers like me who are interested in the development of software are used to convert print to braille or braille to print.   I started developing my website almost 25 years ago to explain braille to other sighted people.

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On Apr 24, 2024, at 11:56 AM, Kendra Schaber <redwing731 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all!
That would be an interesting experiment! The only sighted people I know who knows braille are braille teachers, teachers of other blindness skills that also envolve the use of braille and those who just want to write to their blind friends or family members the old school way. My blind friend  has a sighted friend who actually taught himself how to read and write braille just so he could write to my blind friend. He even taught himself the slate and stylus! I don’t know if he reads braille with his fingers or his eyes. I also don’t know how fast he reads braille compared to print. I do know that they can write hand written letters to each other in braille.
Kendra

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What might actually be an interesting study is to compare adult learners who happen to learn to read braille visually before they have vision problems versus those who are not familiar with btaille until they have to start directly with tactile reading. If it turns out that prior visual reading of braille is helpful in these cases, it suggests that older people learn to read simulated braille visually just in case they might ever need it.

Susan Joll

> On Apr 24, 2024, at 8:30 AM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wro
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> Ramona:
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> Was referring to adult learners, yes. I suspect the brain will adapt more quickly if I ask it to use Braille for nearly all daily literacy tasks. I was simply surprised not to see this approach discussed much in literature or research.
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> Sanho
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>> On Apr 24, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Ramona W via NFB-Braille-Discussion <nfb-braille-discussion at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Are you talking about the brand new learner of
>> Braille who is an adult?  Very few, if any, kids who learn Braille at a young age will  experience fatigue if they are learning braille with their schoolwork.  If we can get adults to relax hands and full bodies, they will experience much less fatigue, both physical and mental.  Don't know for sure what you mean by immersion.  If I read a lot because a book is very exciting, I might need a break, whether the book is Braille or recorded. I don't think there has been much research on any of this.  If research is done, I hope it will be done well.  Unfortunately, that has not always been the case.
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>> Best,
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>> Ramona
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>>>> On 4/23/2024 6:16 PM, Sanho Steele-Louchart via NFB-Braille-Discussion wrote:
>>> All:
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>>> Not seeing any research on this. Have you found better results with braille immersion over speech or do you find that immersion results in diminishing returns given neurological and cognative fatigue?
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