[nfb-db] First Steps
Scott Davert
scottdavert at gmail.com
Wed Aug 22 18:59:33 UTC 2012
Hi all.
Though parts of it are a bit dated, the AADB website gives a good idea
of the things SSP's should and should not do, their roles, and why
they're needed. See:
http://aadb.org/information/ssp/ssp.html
Scott
On 8/22/12, Keitei Colton <kekiangeles111 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Cathy, I completely agree with you that we need to gather the data so we can
> write a proposal. I am going to talk to my chapter president and state
> affiliate president to see what they can provide. I know that recently, UT
> has been involved in the Federal Communication Commission to get accessible
> phones to the deaf-blind, but I would like to see more action taken.
>
> I will be talking to other people in the deaf-blind community to try and
> have them get involved as well.
>
> I would also like to be educated more on the issues that many deaf-blind
> persons have to face. If people on this list could help, that would be
> fabulous.
>
> I will be working as hard as I can to get something running over here in
> UT.
>
> Keitei Colton
> 555 South 200 East
> Salt Lake City, UT 84111
> kekiangeles111 at gmail.com
> (435)-901-4265
>
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>> Janice:
>>
>> I am sure there is plenty of data to show the efficacy of SSPs. I trust
>> in your ability to locate what is needed. If I can be of assistance,
>> please call on me.
>>
>> I am considering a meeting of a small group of deaf-blind leaders from not
>> only NFB but also the NAD. I would like to see deaf-blind people from
>> various cultural backgrounds come together for the purpose of creating the
>> momentum that will lead to the introduction on of legislation. What time
>> of year is good for you and Burnell? I can probably get to the DC area
>> before the next Convention in Orlando in order to discuss the issue over a
>> two or three day period.
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>>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:46:32 -0500
>>> From: Catherine Miller <guillcat at gmail.com>
>>> To: nfb-db at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nfb-db] First Steps
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>>> Friends:
>>>
>>> First, thanks to all of you who replied to my request for your
>>> geographical location. That's a great start.
>>>
>>> Scott, the point you made is a very good one. In order to write a grant
>>> proposal, there needs to be what is known as an RFP (Request for
>>> Proposal). When grant money is available, the entity that has the money
>>> sends out RFPs so that you can write a proposal to try and win the grant
>>> money. In this case, there are no RFPs, because there is no grant money
>>> available on the national level.
>>>
>>> Some states have State SSP programs, and one of our objectives should be
>>> to strengthen and broaden the SSP program in our state if there is one,
>>> or to try and get one if there isn't. Some states have begun with a
>>> "pilot program," meaning that they have obtained limited funding to prove
>>> whether or not a SSP program can be successful. We all know that SSPs
>>> work, but when a large amount of money is involved, there needs to be
>>> data showing that SSP projects have been successful.
>>>
>>> I believe that enough evidence is available from different states with
>>> pilot SSP projects to provide the evidence we need. If not, it won't be
>>> long. Meanwhile, we don't want to just sit around and wait. Now is the
>>> time to begin organizing ourselves so that when the time is right, we can
>>> approach Congress in Washington, DC, and request that they consider a
>>> bill appropriating funds for SSPs. There are many reasons why Congress
>>> would want to honor our request, but that's another story. Our focus is
>>> how to get to the point where we have enough momentum to make the
>>> request.
>>>
>>> The thing to do first is to educate each State Affiliate of the NFB about
>>> the deaf-blind and SSPs. We don't need all 50 states (although we
>>> certainly can try to get all of them). Talk with your Chapter President.
>>> Some may have no clue; others may be open. Establish a relationship
>>> with your Affiliate President if you don't already have one. Tell them
>>> what you've learned about SSPs and see what they think. If they already
>>> know about SSPs, then take it upon yourself to provide a little more
>>> knowledge.
>>>
>>> Eventually, when you feel comfortable doing so, you may suggest a
>>> resolution at your State NFB Convention that shows your Affiliate's
>>> support of an SSP project, for example. Does your state NFB have a
>>> Deaf-Blind Division? Probably not; but is it a possibility in the
>>> future?
>>>
>>> Obviously all these things take time. But we're not the only ones
>>> working on this. The Deaf-Blind are also working within the NAD
>>> (National Association of the Deaf). Some of us are familiar with the
>>> AADB (American Association of the Deaf-Blind), and social networks on
>>> the Internet. All of these deaf-blind people have in common the need for
>>> SSPs. Those of us who have used SSPs recognize how liberating they can
>>> be.
>>>
>>> The next steps are laid out for us in the history of the NFB. The first
>>> convention in 1940 had just a few blind people. The thing they had in
>>> common with the deaf-blind was their hunger for independence. The Civil
>>> Rights movement of the 1960s was a fight for independence, and so was the
>>> American Revolution.
>>>
>>> Remember, organizations don't work together; people do. At the
>>> Affiliate level, NFB members must learn the plight of their brothers and
>>> sisters who are deaf or hard of hearing. They must understand and
>>> believe that we are not defective. They must know that we have needs
>>> that are beyond the skills of blindness to fill.
>>>
>>> Every year, at the Washington Seminary in February, NFB members from all
>>> 50 states, DC, and the US territories take three issues to Congress.
>>> Within a period of less than a week every Congressman receives the same
>>> message at the same time. How powerful is that? These messages are the
>>> bills, written by the talented members of the NFB, many of whom are
>>> lawyers, and eventually get passed into laws. Why can't one of those
>>> initiatives be a request for Congress to fund a national SSP program?
>>>
>>> Let's talk about this, you guys.. If you see faults in my thinking,
>>> please bring them to my attention. If there are certain parts you
>>> particularly like, say so. Let's move to award a plan we can all agree
>>> on, then invite others to join us.
>>>
>>> What have we got to lose?
>>>
>>> Cathy Miller
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 06:26:04 -0400
>>> From: Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net>
>>> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] First Steps
>>> Message-ID: <5033623C.2090705 at verizon.net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Good morning,
>>> I know that Burnell has been trying to get a deafblind program started
>>> in the Washington DC area but it has not had much success as of late.
>>> Now she is interested in focusing on the National Division.
>>>
>>> I will be meeting with Burnell in the next week so I can share this with
>>>
>>> her. I think we urgently need to push forward with this but I think that
>>>
>>> it might be more productive if there was a list of points that we could
>>> refer to in our discussion about the value of SSPs with our affiliate or
>>>
>>> chapter presidents. Think it would be important to tentatively set a
>>> goals both on an individual (voluntary) and division level.
>>> Janice
>>> On 8/21/2012 1:46 AM, Catherine Miller wrote:
>>>> Friends:
>>>>
>>>> First, thanks to all of you who replied to my request for your
>>>> geographical location. That's a great start.
>>>>
>>>> Scott, the point you made is a very good one. In order to write a grant
>>>> proposal, there needs to be what is known as an RFP (Request for
>>>> Proposal). When grant money is available, the entity that has the money
>>>> sends out RFPs so that you can write a proposal to try and win the grant
>>>> money. In this case, there are no RFPs, because there is no grant money
>>>> available on the national level.
>>>>
>>>> Some states have State SSP programs, and one of our objectives should be
>>>> to strengthen and broaden the SSP program in our state if there is one,
>>>> or to try and get one if there isn't. Some states have begun with a
>>>> "pilot program," meaning that they have obtained limited funding to
>>>> prove whether or not a SSP program can be successful. We all know that
>>>> SSPs work, but when a large amount of money is involved, there needs to
>>>> be data showing that SSP projects have been successful.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that enough evidence is available from different states with
>>>> pilot SSP projects to provide the evidence we need. If not, it won't be
>>>> long. Meanwhile, we don't want to just sit around and wait. Now is the
>>>> time to begin organizing ourselves so that when the time is right, we
>>>> can approach Congress in Washington, DC, and request that they consider
>>>> a bill appropriating funds for SSPs. There are many reasons why
>>>> Congress would want to honor our request, but that's another story. Our
>>>> focus is how to get to the point where we have enough momentum to make
>>>> the request.
>>>>
>>>> The thing to do first is to educate each State Affiliate of the NFB
>>>> about the deaf-blind and SSPs. We don't need all 50 states (although we
>>>> certainly can try to get all of them). Talk with your Chapter
>>>> President. Some may have no clue; others may be open. Establish a
>>>> relationship with your Affiliate President if you don't already have
>>>> one. Tell them what you've learned about SSPs and see what they think.
>>>> If they already know about SSPs, then take it upon yourself to provide a
>>>> little more knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> Eventually, when you feel comfortable doing so, you may suggest a
>>>> resolution at your State NFB Convention that shows your Affiliate's
>>>> support of an SSP project, for example. Does your state NFB have a
>>>> Deaf-Blind Division? Probably not; but is it a possibility in the
>>>> future?
>>>>
>>>> Obviously all these things take time. But we're not the only ones
>>>> working on this. The Deaf-Blind are also working within the NAD
>>>> (National Association of the Deaf). Some of us are familiar with the
>>>> AADB (American Association of the Deaf-Blind), and social networks on
>>>> the Internet. All of these deaf-blind people have in common the need
>>>> for SSPs. Those of us who have used SSPs recognize how liberating they
>>>> can be.
>>>>
>>>> The next steps are laid out for us in the history of the NFB. The first
>>>> convention in 1940 had just a few blind people. The thing they had in
>>>> common with the deaf-blind was their hunger for independence. The Civil
>>>> Rights movement of the 1960s was a fight for independence, and so was
>>>> the American Revolution.
>>>>
>>>> Remember, organizations don't work together; people do. At the
>>>> Affiliate level, NFB members must learn the plight of their brothers and
>>>> sisters who are deaf or hard of hearing. They must understand and
>>>> believe that we are not defective. They must know that we have needs
>>>> that are beyond the skills of blindness to fill.
>>>>
>>>> Every year, at the Washington Seminary in February, NFB members from all
>>>> 50 states, DC, and the US territories take three issues to Congress.
>>>> Within a period of less than a week every Congressman receives the same
>>>> message at the same time. How powerful is that? These messages are the
>>>> bills, written by the talented members of the NFB, many of whom are
>>>> lawyers, and eventually get passed into laws. Why can't one of those
>>>> initiatives be a request for Congress to fund a national SSP program?
>>>>
>>>> Let's talk about this, you guys.. If you see faults in my thinking,
>>>> please bring them to my attention. If there are certain parts you
>>>> particularly like, say so. Let's move to award a plan we can all agree
>>>> on, then invite others to join us.
>>>>
>>>> What have we got to lose?
>>>>
>>>> Cathy Miller
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