[nfb-db] Social Situations with Normal People

Mon Jul 30 22:53:42 UTC 2012

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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Keitei <kekiangeles111 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I might be the odd one out, but, socializing with "normal" people just
> isn't my strong point. I typically start conversations with people that
> aren't  really part of that crowd. It may have been because of the way I
> grew up. I made friends who had a range of disadvantages. I became to
> realize that what we have makes us think differently, but doesn't limit who
> were are.
>
> I'm glad to be of service, if anyone wants to talk to me about some
> things. I understand that there are many challenges to being deaf-blind,
> and I thank you all for teaching me so much. I would like to give back to
> your community.
>
> When I took the ASL class, I had a deaf day, and on top of my visual
> impairment, I couldn't hear anything because of the ear plugs that I had.
>  For that day, it was difficult, and I commend all of you for pushing on
> and trying to get the services that you all need and trying to figure out
> the problems that this world has to offer.
>
> I just want to let everyone on this list  that I am here to help to try to
> bring down the barriers and the lack of understanding.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Keitei Colton
> 435-901-4265
> 555 South 200 East
> Salt Lake City, UT 84111
> kekiangeles111 at gmail.com
>
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> >   1. Re: Social situations with normal people (Gerardo Corripio)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:13:32 -0500
> > From: "Gerardo Corripio" <gera1027 at gmail.com>
> > To: "'NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List'" <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Social situations with normal people
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> > NO offense! Great topic! REally learning lots of tips/tricks.
> > Gerardo
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org] En
> nombre
> > de Kerri Kosten
> > Enviado el: domingo, 29 de julio de 2012 07:38 p.m.
> > Para: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
> > Asunto: Re: [nfb-db] Social situations with normal people
> >
> > Hi Everyone:
> >
> > I also struggle with this a bit.
> > I have hearing in only one ear so I am not deaf-blind but hearing
> impaired.
> > When there is a large crowd or when I am in a noisy restaurant with
> > lots of people at a large table, I have a very hard time hearing those
> > who are not right next to me.
> > What I do is just go anyway and do the best I can. I try to not let it
> > bother me, and I'm the type of person who would rather go and not talk
> > to many people at all than not go at all.
> > Also, since I have been in training, one of the things I have had to
> > really work to get over (and I'm over it now I think) is having to go
> > into stores and telling the person I have hearing loss and could they
> > please tell me left, right, or forward when I follow them. I used to
> > hate having to do this but when I didn't do it I would get left behind
> > because I could not tell by using my hearing where they were going. I
> > had no choice but to tell them I have hearing loss and to please give
> > me directions. I found when I did and they gave me verbal directions
> > the situation became a lot better.
> > I also used a FM system in school but found I depended on it when I
> > could have otherwise just used my hearing aid to hear things. I have
> > to sit up closer to where the speaker is sitting to hear but I have
> > gotten used to this.
> > If my hearing were to ever get worse, I would have no problems using
> > an FM system but right now I can function without one.
> > But, I can totally relate with the not wanting to stand out. For years
> > I believed with my hearing aid my hearing was fine but in reality I
> > would get embarrassed when I would try to follow someone and I
> > couldn't tell where they were so I had to quickly get used to telling
> > people I have hearing loss. At first it was hard but now I am used to
> > it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kerri
> >
> > On 7/29/12, Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> I hope I didn't offend you. I was merely trying to explain something
> >> that as a new deaf-blind person I had been struggling with. This desire
> >> to fit in like you; but don't. The everyday experience of either being
> >> pitied for being thought as disable (i.e. helpless) or some sort or
> >> disabled superwoman because I am taking graduate counseling classes and
> >> desire to be self-supporting as a counselor. I want to be seen for who I
> >> am and not what my disabilities are.
> >> On 7/27/2012 11:34 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
> >>> I think the wanting to appear as normal as possible; all my life I've
> >>> grown
> >>> up with blindness being the only disability since with my hearing aids
> >>> I'm
> >>> able to hear OK.
> >>>
> >>> -----Mensaje original-----
> >>> De: nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org] En
> >>> nombre
> >>> de Janice Toothman
> >>> Enviado el: Jueves, 26 de Julio de 2012 17:27
> >>> Para: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List
> >>> Asunto: Re: [nfb-db] Social situations with normal people
> >>>
> >>> Gerardo,
> >>> If I may ask, were you afraid of the stigma of being labeled hearing
> >>> impaired or deaf? or was if something else that prompted you to refrain
> >>> from using your FM receiver. I know that for me it is always a struggle
> >>> not wanting to appear different from others yet having a desire to not
> >>> only learn but also to be heard. Because of the stigma of
> deaf-blindness
> >>> I often did not want draw attention to my needs in a classroom. The
> >>> result was that I could not fully participate in the class and the
> >>> teacher did not know why so I was graded down with respect to
> >>> participation. It is an awful responsibility to be the counseling
> >>> departments first deaf-blind student. This means I must educate my
> >>> professors and classmates not only about deaf-blindness and what we can
> >>> do with the proper training and technology.
> >>> Janice
> >>> On 7/26/2012 2:41 PM, GERARDO CORRIPIO FLORES wrote:
> >>>> Wow! what a great topic! Though I'm not deafblind (I have 70% hearing
> >>>> loss and use hearing aids) I prefer small social gatherings of two
> >>>> three or up to five people at most. ABout fm transmiters, I used to
> >>>> use one some years ago but only used it in school since I'd like to
> >>>> appear as most regular as possible. Keep on this great topic!
> >>>>
> >>>> 2012/7/26, Scott Davert <scottdavert at gmail.com>:
> >>>>> Hi janice.
> >>>>> I've had the same struggles as you have, and my social life has
> >>>>> suffered greatly. I've become an intravert because of this.
> >>>>> I understand also not being able to always hear or see someone when
> >>>>> they say hello to me, and wish that I could offer some suggestions as
> >>>>> to ways of dealing with this. But these are other people we're
> talking
> >>>>> about, people who have their own actions, thoughts, and assumptions.
> >>>>> All you can do is explain it to them and hope they understand. No
> >>>>> matter what audiological equipment you use, it's never going to be as
> >>>>> good as what would be considered normal hearing. The only way I've
> >>>>> found to deal with my extrovertedness, is to have small gatherings of
> >>>>> like 2 or 3 others, which makes it easier as long as you're not in a
> >>>>> noisey environment. But I fit in nowhere. I have a hard time with
> >>>>> speech and don't know enough sign language. I'm trying to learn sign
> >>>>> language now, but the politics and all the bs surrounding it is
> making
> >>>>> that difficult. So I just keep pushing on and do the best I can and
> >>>>> live with it. What other choice do I have?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scott
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 7/26/12, Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> I get frustrated by those people who knew me growing up and assume I
> >>>>>> am
> >>>>>> being rude to them when I don't say "Hi" to them after they have
> said
> >>>>>> "Hi" to me. Do I always have to explain to people that I am not
> being
> >>>>>> rude or trying to brush them off but that I honestly didn't hear
> them
> >>>>>> because I am deaf and that I didn't see them because I am blind. How
> >>>>>> do
> >>>>>> you go to social events where the majority are sighted and your the
> >>>>>> only
> >>>>>> deaf-blind person and you can't make sense of the person your
> having a
> >>>>>> conversation with because of all the other noises/conversions going
> on
> >>>>>> in the room?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I feel very isolated from my peers because I cannot hear
> conversations
> >>>>>> in a classroom when others are talking as well. Similarly family
> >>>>>> gatherings do not have usual anticipation at going to these events
> has
> >>>>>> diminished greatly due to my deaf-blindness.
> >>>>>> This is a challenge for me when I go back to school. The University
> >>>>>> offers me transcribers for my class but they write the "gist" of
> what
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> said and often leave out important dates and names of authors.
> Also, I
> >>>>>> do not receive this transcription in real time but within 24-36
> hours
> >>>>>> after the class has ended.
> >>>>>> Unfortunately, when I go to conventions I have to rely on my FM
> system
> >>>>>> and a digital recorder.
> >>>>>> Has anyone else had problems problems in social situations.
> >>>>>>
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