[nfb-db] nfb-db Digest, Vol 54, Issue 5

Tue Jul 9 15:41:50 UTC 2013

Maurice;
Thank you for asking these questions. These are the questions we need
to resolve.

The National Federation of the Blind, demands equality, security, and
oppurtunity for every blind person. Our responsibilty is to acquire
the proper training to attain the skills necessary to access the
world.  Blindness skills rely on hearing therefore deaf blind people
do not have access to the same skills of blindness as other members of
the NFB. If deaf blind people are denied the same oppurtunities as
other NFB members, then the NFB is guilty of the same discramatory
practices that have burdened its own members.

The Helen Keller National Center is not an advocacy organization in
the same fashion as NFB. The AADB at this time in its history, does
not have the power to advocate in the same fashion as the NFB. We hope
that these two organizations will join with us as we gain mommetum
toward our goal.

Things are always changing. It is our responsibilty to secure equal
oppurtunity for all our blind brothers and sisters who are deaf or
hard of hearing. The NFB's legislative agenda has already been
established for the 2014 Washington seminar. The deaf blind issues
will not be a apart of that agenda. The NFB decides annually its
Washington agenda. Deaf blind issues will not be brought to Washington
until the time is right. We hope that members such as yourself come to
see the deaf blind as equal citizens, deserving of the same rights and
oppurtunites as other blind citizens.

Again, thank you for asking the obvious questions.  Please do continue
to contemplate issues pertaining to members of the deaf blind
division. Continue to post your questions here.

Sincerely,

Cathy Miller

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> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:54:27 -0700
> From: Maurice Mines <maurice.mines at gmail.com>
> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Congratulations!
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>  good morning, I've a few observations that might be considered somewhat
> controversial. And some questions. I think that it is great to work with
> Helen Keller, and the American Association of the deaf blind, but we must
> stay true to that view of the national Federation of the blind. So I think
> we need to do everything we can to help support our effort to in sub minimum
> wages more sheltered shop workers. I might add here that some are probably
> deft line. I think that it is also important that we get involved in our
> chapter's interstate affiliates and help out whatever they're doing. I have
> a question about the SSP resolution, and that is simply this, how are we
> going to convince a skeptical Congress at best to put money into this
> program, when many states rely on matching money to run their programs and
> have eliminated some services that effect some portion of the vocational
> rehabilitation population. And those agencies that are blindness specific I
> don't think either understand the issue, or just plain don't have the funds
> either in state or using the matching federal dollars that of course have
> restrictions attached to them? I know that you mention getting ready to talk
> to people at the Washington seminar about this issue but I think it is
> critical that this issue is not part of the national list of priorities that
> we not confuse and/or blur the issues that are in their? I guess one time
> say is if the issues are in the legislative priorities for the 114th 113
> Congress second session I think, that those of us that go to the Washington
> seminar stay on message. And do not stray into things that will confuse
> staffers and/or legislators? I hope everyone takes time to read my thoughts,
> and I hope I don't get any flaming email because of it I'm just asking some
> questions so that I may better understand where some of this is coming
> from?
> Sincerely Maurice mines secretary national Federation of the blind of
> Washington Clark County chapter. Amateur radio call sign kd0iko. Phone
> 360-524-0791.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:23:07 -0400
> From: Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net>
> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Congratulations!
> Message-ID: <51DB038B.1040305 at verizon.net>
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> Maurice,
> I would hope that you do not get any flaming emails either.  I do not
> know if any actual legislation regarding the SSP resolution will make it
> to the 113-114 Congress  this year but we need to start working to fine
> tune next years resolutions so that when the Federation feels that the
> Deaf-Blind issues within the Federation are significant and we have
> power within the NFB organization then we need to be prepared for when
> we will present it so that we have our facts ready.
>
> I found it a challenge to locate information on SSP.  The AADB has
> written information as well as the HKNC but we need independent research.
>
> I will post the Resolutions later today or tomorrow.  I am waiting for
> Sharon Maneki to get back to me about the final version of the SSP
> resolution since the Affiliate president's had wanted to change several
> words before getting agreeing to vote in favor during the Committee
> meeting.
>
> I will also be posting the minutes for the Deaf-Blind Division Meeting
> sometime in the next two weeks.
> Janice
> On 7/8/2013 1:54 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
>>   good morning, I've a few observations that might be considered somewhat
>> controversial. And some questions. I think that it is great to work with
>> Helen Keller, and the American Association of the deaf blind, but we must
>> stay true to that view of the national Federation of the blind. So I think
>> we need to do everything we can to help support our effort to in sub
>> minimum wages more sheltered shop workers. I might add here that some are
>> probably deft line. I think that it is also important that we get involved
>> in our chapter's interstate affiliates and help out whatever they're
>> doing. I have a question about the SSP resolution, and that is simply
>> this, how are we going to convince a skeptical Congress at best to put
>> money into this program, when many states rely on matching money to run
>> their programs and have eliminated some services that effect some portion
>> of the vocational rehabilitation population. And those agencies that are
>> blindness specific I don't think either understand the
>>   issue, or just plain don't have the funds either in state or using the
>> matching federal dollars that of course have restrictions attached to
>> them? I know that you mention getting ready to talk to people at the
>> Washington seminar about this issue but I think it is critical that this
>> issue is not part of the national list of priorities that we not confuse
>> and/or blur the issues that are in their? I guess one time say is if the
>> issues are in the legislative priorities for the 114th 113 Congress second
>> session I think, that those of us that go to the Washington seminar stay
>> on message. And do not stray into things that will confuse staffers and/or
>> legislators? I hope everyone takes time to read my thoughts, and I hope I
>> don't get any flaming email because of it I'm just asking some questions
>> so that I may better understand where some of this is coming from?
>> Sincerely Maurice mines secretary national Federation of the blind of
>> Washington Clark County chapter. Amateur radio call sign kd0iko. Phone
>> 360-524-0791.
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