[nfb-db] HKNC

Wed May 22 14:06:50 UTC 2013

Marsha, 
For a local NFB event I asked for interpreters using relay to call.  They flatt out said no, after trying really hard not to accept my relay call at all and not returning them.  
When I could hear more than I do now, I did ask State for ALD at state convention.  They forgot it, didn't know how to use it when they found it, and then never turned it on during sesion. 
And honestly, accept for NAGD'U, I've given up.  Conventions cost money, my money comes hard and there is not a great deal of it, so when I spend it, I want to do so in a way I'll enjoy. And I don't enjoy being treated like something that appears on the bottom of someone's shoe. Lol I can get that for free.  everyone is not like this, of course, but the experience is not a happy one, so unless work sends me to convention, I will not be there. 

Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
Bristol, Mill'E-Max, Laveau!
pawpower4me at gmail.com
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On May 22, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rox, 
> 
> I am not happy to hear that I am the only one. I am happy to hear that I am not the one in feeling the way i do about the nastiness. 
> 
> I have only seen this nastiness on the national level. Although my state is just now coming to fully understand my issues, they are supportive. 
> 
> I am assuming that you have asked for a interpertor? And if when you asked what was said? Why was your request denied. 
> 
> I mean for goodness sakes, the NFB does supply listening devices for those who are hard of hearing. This is awesome. But what about those of us who can't use the listening devices. We should be denied access to the same information? The NFB advocates for access all of the time, what about our access? what about our rights? are we that different that we don't deserve that right? Heck no...
> 
> I am very happy to hear about NAGDU. Of course its not just me, so by no means do I take responsibility for this. But NAGDU has worked hard to be a good division. And I work hard on the NAGDU list. 
> 
> Ok, I will shut up now, I could go on forever LOL 
> 
> Marsha drenth  
> Sent with my IPhone 
> 
> On May 22, 2013, at 1:09 AM, The Pawpower Pack <pawpower4me at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Marsha, 
>> I have never been to HK as a student, but I did want to say that I have had the same experience with the NFB, on local, state, and national levels.  Not willing to provide interpreters, Resentful attitudes, nasty namecalling and treating me like I have terrible blindness skills because I'm deaf and therefore can't interact with the world like hearing people.  
>> I have to say, that the NAGDU has been the single exception to my experience and is wonderful. 
>> I don't go to national conventions any more, because I'm tired of the names and the superior attitudes, and the downright nasty behavior.  It's very sad.  Because as our population ages, more and more people will experience hearing loss.  So the same people who are being rude and horrible today may have hearing loss in 20 years.  I hope, for their sake, that fundamental change will have happened in the NFB by the time they need it. 
>> 
>> Rox and the Kitchen Bitches
>> Bristol, Mill'E-Max, Laveau!
>> pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 21, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Listers, 
>>> 
>>> For the past year I have lost a significant amount of hearing. Last tested I was at a 100DB loss. I have been totally blind for the last 10 years. as a child I attended a school for the blind. So my blindness skills are good. But now with the loss of my hearing, life has certainly gotten interesting and challenging. I will be the first to say that I have been struggling. Currently I am a full time student at a major university pursuing a degree in Social Work. I have one year left. 
>>> 
>>> So my questions are this, Has anyone on this list been to HKNC? I know the NFB advocates for a blindness skills training center, but that is NOT what i need. my OVR came to and has recommended that I go to HKNC for training. If you have been, I have a whole slue of questions, that i'll ask at another point. 
>>> 
>>> What is the NFB's stance on HKNC? This by no means will impact my desicion to go or not to go. I am curious. 
>>> 
>>> I guess a better reason of why I ask the above questions, is that I have been an NFB member for my entire life, my parents, my grandparents all have been in the NFB. my grandparents were around when the two organizations split. I have grown up with the positive philosophy. I get it, I truely do. But here I have been thrust into the world of deafblindness. Not many people know this yet, as I am working to figure things out, I am only begining to be comfortable with expressing my needs to others. I know that is whole another subject on acceptance, but that is not my point for this post. 
>>> 
>>> I will relay an experience I had at my last national convention, last year in Dallas. I was in the general session, I got up to go to the bathroom, found my way out fine. Found the bathroom fine. But when I entered the big huge room, I was lost. I asked persons around me where I was. People were rude. i said I can't hear. people made fun of me. I walked around looking for my state for atleast 15 minutes. I was frustrated, I didn't know which way was to the front or the back of the room or the way to get out. 
>>> 
>>> I tell you all this, because I realized that my ability to hear, my independence was changing. There were other times that I got lost, but people were so rude, so mean. When I expressed that I was hard of hearing and totally blind, people did not understand, care, or get it. In other words I was shunned, looked down upon, made fun of. 
>>> 
>>> Why can't people in the NFB accept persons who are different? Why are us who are deafblind looked down upon? And if confirmed, its just because our blindness skills are lacking. That is not the case. 
>>> 
>>> So do the NFB people look down upon those who go to HKNC? Is there a difference in training philosophy? Again I said this won't change my desision to go for training or not. more curious than anything. 
>>> 
>>> Look folks I don't want to argue about this, but I do want answers. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you for reading, and sorry this is so long.... 
>>> 
>>> Marsha drenth  
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