[nfb-db] Trying to use the computer with just a Keyboard

Scott Davert scottdavert at gmail.com
Sat Nov 2 18:19:06 UTC 2013


Hi April.
Are you still able to use screen magnification to some degree? If so, you may want to start practicing using keyboard commands without JAWS first. For example, if you wish to switch the window that is in the foreground, you can do this by holding down the Alt key and pressing tab. If you wish to go to your desktop, instead of using the mouse, hold down the Windows (start menu) key, and press the letter D for desktop. Also, in Microsoft Word, there are a lot of word processing commands that you can use that have eqivalents to opening ribbons with the mouse and doing them. For example, once you have highlighted text, hold down the control key and pre C to copy it to your clipboard, hold down control and press V to paste the copied text, etc. I have a list of commands I can pull up for you on Monday when I'm back at my office. The idea here is not to try to learn how to use a screen reader and some basic keyboarding commands at the same time if you can still use magnification right now. Just start using the keyboard instead of the mouse. It will be less strain on your eyes, and you will find, it'll be a time saver once you are used to it. One other thing that may help you immediately.If you are running Windows Vista or later, you can press your windows key to bring up the start menu. When you want to quickly find a program, start typing the name of that program inthe  search box. If you arenot  using a screen reader, the text will still go in to that box and will pull up a list of programs you can choose from. If your vision has decreased to the point where magnification is notan  option, then it'stime  to go fromuslikelike onot with a screen reader. A braille display is also certainly something you should looknowledge into if you know braille. If not, you need to start learning braille as soonotas  possible.  I know thatthe  above advice goes againstillthe  NFbut philosiphy of just jumping inand  gettingit  all done and overwhelming you at first,   but sometimes, that'snot  the best approach.

Scott

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On Nov 2, 2013, at 11:29 AM, "Gene Richburg" <gene5402 at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi, yeah, those braille displays are expencive, like around anyware from $2000 to $4000 just for a 40 cell.
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> From: Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 10:00 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Trying to use the computer with just a Keyboard
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> April commented that Jaws sounds like a whisper, thus maybe with a Braille display?  how much are they?
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> El 02/11/2013 08:56 a.m., Dr. Denise M Robinson escribió:
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>> April
>> Do make sure that if you are using a laptop that jaws is in laptop mode. insert j, options then basics and alt l to layout and make sure it has the layout you need to work correctly
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>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Gene Richburg <gene5402 at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> Hi April, are you using a desktop or a laptop?  If you’re using a laptop, sometimes there is a key called the f n key that you have to hold down to make key comonations work, like alt f4 for instance, alt f4 is usually used to close programs, and let’s say you’re in a browser, since some times web pages open in windows from inside the browser windo, you would use control f4 to close the window.  Now, some times it can get tricky when new web pages open, if you don’t pay attention, and you do alt f4 you’ll close the browser out altogether, internet explorer will warn
>> you of this but I don’t know if fire fox does.  Also, if you use alt tab and alt shift tab, you can cycle through all the different programs/windows you have open.  Alt tab will move you forward through everything, and alt shift tab will move you backwards.  Did you know about these combonations?  Just remember, it’s very important, that you hold the alt key down firmly when you try to do these combonations, otherwise they will not work.  Let me know if you have anymore questions.
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>> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2013 6:56 AM
>> To: nfbktad at nfbnet.org ; nfb-db at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nfb-db] Trying to use the computer with just a Keyboard
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>> Following advice, I've tried to learn to use a computer with just a keyboard.  I don't get it.  I can't open or close anything. 
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>> With the trial JAWs program, I tried to use both Firefox and Safari with just the keyboard. I had the 11 page keyboard guide open.  And none of the commands worked on either browser.  They worked in Word and PDF.
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>> I have no idea what "key" I am missing.  I am sure it is some silly something that I'm supposed to toggle on or off to do it, and everyone else in the world knows how without being told.
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>> So far, the biggest problem I can see with JAWs, other than not being able to configure it for the browsers, is the volume.  With my massive hearing loss as well, and the volume at 100%, it sounds like a whisper.  Is it worth my time to learn this program, if I can't hear      the speakers?  My hearing and comprehension is rapidly decreasing.  I'm going to ask on the deaf blind group what they use. 
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