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Janice Toothman janice.toothman at verizon.net
Wed Sep 4 19:34:18 UTC 2013


Hi Scott,
It is just frustrating that a book doesn't exit.  But thanks for putting 
that together.
Janice
On 9/4/2013 3:28 PM, Scott Davert wrote:
> Hi Janice.
> The simple truth of the matter is that no such manual exists. So HKSB,
> HKNC, the taskforce on deaf-blindness, or any other resource cannot
> provide something which does not exist. I hope that the text I
> included about formulating the letters of the manual alphabet is
> helpful.
> There are books that you can get which do somewhat of a good job, but
> the first thing you absolutely must master before moving on are the
> handhsapes. I know that Bookshare has a book called signing
> illustrated which offers some textual descriptions, but I'm not sure
> how good it is.
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/4/13, Janice Toothman <janice.toothman at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Hi Heather,
>> I understand your dilemma. Although I am deaf-blind, I need to learn
>> tactile ASL and the only way to take it is through ASL classes, which
>> are expensive and I am on a limited income.  Plus, since my dual
>> disabilities didn't occur until late in life, people in my life don't
>> encourage ASL.  However, I am real sorry to hear that you had such a
>> miserable experience at a deaf-blind meeting. It is through practice
>> that we build on our skills that we learned so that we hope to master
>> them.  This is particularly true when it comes to learning a different
>> language.  Finding people who are willing to help you, sign S-L-O-W-L-Y
>> to you is key to build a solid foundation and your confidence.
>>
>> That is terrible that HKNC has not responded; I would have thought that
>> they had a manual of signs in Braille that described in words how to
>> form the signs.
>>
>>    It is awesome that you work with deaf & blind refugees. Are they from
>> a particular region, conflict, country?
>> Janice
>> On 9/4/2013 2:04 PM, heather albright wrote:
>>> Hello, I am taking my first ASL class at the community college!  I am
>>> taking  this course because I want to communicate with my deaf-blind
>>> friends and I myself have hearing difficulties!  I wanted to know if
>>> there is a brailled manual for the letters!  I received several audio
>>> books and one braille book however, they don't describe how to make
>>> the signs!  I thought they would after all the materials are from a
>>> blindness organization!  I tried to e-mail the Helen Keller foundation
>>> and never received a response!  I have tactile interpreters for in
>>> class!  However,  I don't have anyone who can work with me outside of
>>> class!  I have only been to the deaf-blind chat here in Austin once!
>>> It was not a pretty nice experience!  The sighted deaf were talking
>>> amongst themselves and the so called interpreters for the deaf-blind
>>> were talking to themselves ignoring the people they were supposed to
>>> help! So my friends and I have not been back!  We communicate with our
>>> braille displays on the note-takers for now!  But I think there might
>>> be a better way!  I also work with refugees who are deaf and found
>>> that Iwas the only one who wanted to take ASL so I could at least
>>> communicate with the deaf refugees!  I already work with blind
>>> refugees, as a volunteer.  Thank you, Heather Albright
>>> Heather Albright
>>> "When we do the best that we can, we never know what miracle is
>>> wrought in our life, or in the life of another." Helen Keller
>>> contact: voice and text:
>>> 512-680-3985
>>> skype: cynterline
>>> e-mail:
>>> heather.albright at g.austincc.edu <mailto:heather.albright at g.austincc.edu>
>>>
>>>
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