[NFB-DB] To the deaf-blind mailing list

[maurice mines]

  I have a question, did you go over what is acceptable with the 
interpreter before hand? Is this interpreter working with you in pro 
tactile, tactile sign, or just plain American Sign Language. There are 
differences in how they are supposed to interact with people. In 
addition to that what did you do did you stop and calmly explain to the 
interpreter that that was a violation of your space? Also what kind of 
setting was the sin? If you word out door and walking in the interpreter 
saw something that could potentially be dangerous. Then of course their 
main concern is to pull you back from something that could  potentially 
interviewed. I am sure that someone who manages things like first 
VPDrnth  may chime in on this issue. Hopefully I did not destroy her 
last name. I sell all that to say this, I’m trying to figure out based 
on your post what the context and the situation that this all occurred 
in. Finally ensured that that was the interpreter and not just John Q 
citizen. Members of the general public do this rubbing and/or moving 
blind people sadly is the norm. This does not make it appropriate. I’m 
just saying it happens quite a bit. The last thing I would say to you, 
sit down do some deep breathing, and try and relax. I know it sounds a 
bit dismissive, but whenever I get upset at something I generally try to 
sit down and calm down a bit before writing about it and/or discussing 
it with anyone. Because sitting down helps me to sort out the facts 
versus the emotion of the situation.

If this person was an interpreter, and from an agency, you certainly 
should discuss it with that person’s supervisor if it is applicable. I 
hope the small bit of advice and encouragement is helpful.

Sincerely Maurice Mines.
Board member national Federation of the blind deaf blind division.
VP national Federation of the blind of California Bakersfield chapter.
US amateur radio call sign kd0iko.
Sprint IP relay number 661-246-3110.


On 4 Sep 2019, at 13:18, Heather via NFB-DB wrote:

> I think you did good. IT sounds like that lady, should had asked you 
> if she could grab your hand before she did, that was clearly a 
> violation of personal space! I do not care how good intentioned 
> someone is, they have no right putting their hands on someone else 
> without   asking them first; period!  Yes, they seem to do it a lot 
> with blind and deaf blind. I had someone come up to me and just grab 
> me because they wanted me to move and I did not hear them. I almost 
> fel down. So the person with me, had to tell them that assaulting me 
> was not the way to get the message across. That person was quite 
> ashamed because I was not just being rude and they could had found a 
> better way to ask me to move! So the tec or doctor, she should have 
> asked the interpreter if she could guide you to the spot  with your 
> hand and the interpreter could have told you before she just grabbed 
> your hand. Someone needs some training at that place for sure! Heather
>
> "Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> e-mail:
> kd5cbl at gmail.com
> sites:
> National Federation of The Blind:
> www.nfb.org
> An Accessible Online Library:
> www.bookshare.org
>
> From: Ineko Gary via NFB-DB
> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 2:20 PM
> To: nfb-db at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Ineko Gary
> Subject: [NFB-DB] To the deaf-blind mailing list
>
> Greetings all
>
> I have a question to ask everyone who is deaf blind.
>
> On Friday the 30th I hope last month. I had my sign language 
> interpreter that does tactile meet me there. And I told him before I 
> lay down on the movie in bed I need to take out my hearing aids. So my 
> find language interpreter told the lady before I lay down I need to 
> take out my hearing aids. She told us that I can lay down with the 
> hearing aids in. And me and my sign language interpreter kept telling 
> her that it is on comfortable for me myself to lay down with hearing 
> aids in. And then she told my sign language interpreter it’s OK 
> because I still can hear a little bit without them. Am I sign language 
> interpreter told her that I’m totally deaf without my hearing aids. 
> And then she told me to look up at the lights that will flash right to 
> live to tell me went to breathe and not breathe or to Relief©. And 
> the writing also that will say the same thing. My interpreter told her 
> I can not see she said oh yes she can I see a little bit. Me and the 
> interpreter said no that I only see a tiny tiny bit of light and it 
> Hass to be close to my face to see that tiny bit of light. And she’s 
> like well then she can see the light up here. And the interpreter said 
> no she cannot you have to be close to her face and that’s too far 
> up. That I am totally blind with a tiny bit of light. And my biggest 
> problem was I had my left hand to my interpreter signing into my left 
> hand because I’m left-handed so he needed my left hand to detect 
> house I language. So I was using my right hand to feel on the bed that 
> moves into the scanner and out on which way to go and I go mad because 
> the lady grabbed my right hand and then I could not feel the movie bad 
> and she told the interpreter she got me I could just lay down. And I 
> was trying to take my hand away from her. So I turned to my 
> interpreter and was signing with one hand because I couldn’t sign 
> with the other one telling him to tell her to please let go of my 
> right hand that this is how I see it with my hands. And her holding my 
> hand is like putting my hand over her eyes where she can’t see. At 
> first she didn’t want to let go. But when she saw me pulling my hand 
> away from her to feel by myself which way to lay down she finally let 
> go.
>
> Question did I tell all of this correctly to my tactile  sign language 
> interpreter?
>
> I have to yes use only my left hand to do  tactile sign language. 
> Because one I can barely feel the signing through or with the right 
> hand. But I can sign a little bit with the right hand along with the 
> left. But when they are doing tactile sign language in my left hand I 
> need my right hand to feel where everything is at. So did I do right 
> by telling the lady to let go out of my right hand so I can see with 
> my hand on which way do you lay down?
>
> Lots of love always
> Ineko
>
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