[NFB-DB] following up regarding captions

Thu May 7 22:36:03 UTC 2020

All, 

yes, the presidential release was Live captioned. I was also following using my iPhone and Braille display. The only difficulty with this is that the zoom platform refreshes a lot, and so the sentence would refresh a lot and start again. if a person had notifications on, For example when people left the roomfor example when people left the room and or when they returned, this also caused  client to refresh and to display those notifications. 

if anyone else has any information and or feedback about the captioning, I would be happy to pass it along to those folks who need to see it.
And yes if you want this provided at the convention, that also needs to be stated.
Thank you!

Marsha drenth  
email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com  
Sent with my IPhone  
Please note that this email communication has been sent using my iPhone. As such, I may have used dictation and had made attempts to mitigate errors. Please do not be hesitant to ask for clarification as necessary. 

>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Lisa Ferris via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all, I did notice that the May Presidential Address on zoom was captioned pretty well. I was able to almost keep up with a braille display. The captioning was of pretty good quality, so it looked to me like a live transcriber actually was on the call typing it (which is an available function on zoom) and not an AI bot. They also gave instructions in the email about the call about how to turn captioning on in zoom, and they mentioned it at the beginning of the call. This was the first I have seen of this from the NFB. Is this new? Anyway, if they provided a live captioned transcriber like they appear to do here, I think it could work well at convention. Another aspect of this was that during the Q and A session of the presidential address, it was monitored by (I think) Pam Allen, and she did a nice job making sure that one person spoke at a time. This is important aspect of accessibility, that these zoom meetings are facilitated by a good meeting manager/host, who can control who is talking so that everyone does not talk at once. 
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> Can we make sure that we get this type of service for the convention? I thought it worked well.
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> Lisa Ferris, M.Ed
> Miles Access Skills Training, LLC
> blindmast.com 
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>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Scott Davert via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Heather.
>> Sprint Ip-Relay still exists, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. As for using IP-Relay on one of these Zoom meetings, in theory at least, you could call into a Zoom meeting if a phone number is listed. I'll warn you that you may have trouble keeping up, as would the relay operator. I may contact national about another captioning option for convention and possibly even these Zoom meetings, but I do not know who to contact, and still need to see if this is something that can be supported. It's been a rough 2020 for me personally, so although I wanted to do this before, I've not had the energy to do so. Sorry I do not have any immediate answers for you. For disclosure: I'm not on the board, but am an NFBDB member. I work for Sprint Accessibility, among other things.
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>> Scott
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>>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Maurice A. mines via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>  Hello everyone, I’ve been reading the two emails that have been written about the subject. I think it is an important issue. I’m going to pass this message on to Pres. I will study was the president of the deaf blind division. I’m also on the same division board. I certainly cannot speak for the entire board but I would ask that people on the list give us some time to discuss it. And look at possible suggestions we may make to the national office. I would encourage anyone to certainly send a question to Pres. Riccobono through Pam Allen was facilitating the next live presidential release to be held on 1 May to bring this issue up.
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>>> Heather I don’t know if a relay service would be willing to take on an entire convention. That suggestion although good I think has to be cleared with them and either the division or the organization as a whole needs to work with said relay service wherever that service may be to make certain that it is appropriate. I do know that Zoom has captioning and I think the first live presidential release was captioned. But I don’t know at what levels that was in terms of the level of detail. I was also told afterwards that there was occasional text chatting going on to look someone could potentially follow what was going on. But you’re right that it does need to be discussed and some arrangements need to be made if that’s applicable. Please be rest assured that I will pass that on to Pres. Alice Eddie. Because I don’t know if she’s on this Issue. I hope everyone also understands that I’m only one person. There are nine people on the board. I am hopeful that once we discuss it and hopefully formulate something we will of course make that known on this list. And if it’s agreed that the national office completely handle it I am hopeful that they will make certain that it is made clear what way forward will be pursued almost list. I hope everyone is safe and as comfortable as can be if there used to getting out and I’m certainly going to publish my real personal address here if anyone wants to write me off list privately I certainly read every email I get. I thank you in advance for any suggestions you may have for us to pass along to the national office or on anything that we may do to help things work out for the benefit of everyone.
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>>> The following email address is my personal address. Again please feel free to write me. I go through personal emails first and then I look at list emails second. I check email several times a day. So I look forward to reading any emails that people may wish to write me. I do ask that you let me know if it is okay to pass your email along.
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>>>  maurice at maurice-amines.com.  if you just have me lay and wish to leave me a relay message, that number follows
>>> Sprint IP relay number 6612463110.
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>>>> On Apr 19, 2020, at 13:23, heather via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>> I wonder if the national can use sprint relay services? If sprint relay still exists after the te-mobile take over! So I heard apple has content that one can read with their braille displays as part of their close captioning, hope that we can use the same technology for the convention this year. I worry because not everyone has braille equipment at home. The equipment may have been at their schools and all the schools are closed till the end of the year. Is I can connect giving out equipment to folks to use at home? I wish there was a way to find out the answers to these questions!  Heather 
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>>>> From: Doula Jarboe via NFB-DB
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:44 PM
>>>> To: 'NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List'
>>>> Cc: doula.jarboe at gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] zoom meetings
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>>>> Hi All,
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>>>>      My state affiliate, Colorado, was the first affiliate doing zoom workshops.  And we’ve been trying to figure out this issue.  I’m not sure if any solution has come up.  I know Cart costs a lot of money.  My understanding is that there’s the ability for someone to type about what is going on verbally.  But someone has to be assigned to that position.  And I don’t know if that’s been tried at all.  Considering that National Convention is going to be virtual, some kind of accommodation will have to be figured out by then.  Anyone else?
>>>> Doula
>>>> President of the fledgling Colorado Deaf-Blind division
>>>> From: NFB-DB <nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of heather via NFB-DB
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:53 PM
>>>> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: heather <kd5cbl at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [NFB-DB] zoom meetings
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>>>> Hello, there have been a lot of zoom meetings.For last weeks zoom meeting on firday, I posted the presidential speech that was up for discussion off the blind pinpowls list. I wanted to make sure the deaf blind would be part of the discussion. I did not see them providing closed captioning so people who are deaf blind can follow along. Has any had this discussion with national, that they maybe leaving the deaf-blind out of the loop? Chapter meetings and nfb groups need to use the zoom feature that has closed captioning. Does anyone know if this feature even works for those using braille displays? Any devision leaders out there can verify this or not? Stay safe everyone! Heather 
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>>> On May 7, 2020, at 3:12 PM, heather Albright via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I would like to know too. I missed the address to many things going on around here. Cheers Heather
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>>> A while back, we had a discussion concerning captioning of the virtual events. Last Friday, the president's release was supposed to be captioned and directions were given on how to use the captions on Windows and iOS. I was not available to catch the release, but I wonder if anyone of you tried the captioning? If so, I'd love to knowhow it worked out.
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