[NFB-DB] Fwd: IRS ID.me Verification
dandrews920 at comcast.net
dandrews920 at comcast.net
Fri Feb 11 05:58:36 UTC 2022
They have canceled use of ID.ME according to the news.
Dave
From: NFB-DB <nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Stuart Salvador via NFB-DB
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 2:22 PM
To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Stuart Salvador <stuartsalvador at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] Fwd: IRS ID.me Verification
Hi Frank, Stuart here.
They claim to be "reconsidering" the use but stated it will not change for this tax season and it is not gone yet as I just checked today. Furthermore, the IRS stated they are still going to be implementing new verification for next tax season, so we need to strongly advocate for inclusive methods of verification to be used that don't involve photo/video so they don't implement it unfavorably for next tax season. This is based on the IRS latest release on this as of Monday.
EOM
On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:21 PM Frank Skogsberg via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
If you guys are inquiring about video identity from IRS I have received messages from other sources that IRS took the video verification site part down due to complaint so you may check later
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 8, 2022, at 2:39 PM, maurice mines via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> > wrote:
Hi I am posting this with permission.
Maurice Mines, Board Member
National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
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Begin forwarded message:
From: "Yingling, Valerie" <Vyingling at nfb.org <mailto:Vyingling at nfb.org> >
Subject: RE: [NFB-DB] IRS ID.me <http://ID.me> Verification
Date: February 8, 2022 at 1:28:26 PM PST
To: maurice mines <maurice at maurice-amines.com <mailto:maurice at maurice-amines.com> >
Can you post this to the listserv instead?
In December, the National Federation of the Blind’s legal program alerted IRS counsel to our concerns about the accessibility of IRS <http://id.me/> ID.me, and we have requested to speak with someone within IRS about the accessibility of various features. We hope to speak with someone soon.
Valerie Yingling
Legal Program Coordinator
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
410-659-9314, extension 2440| <mailto:vyingling at nfb.org> vyingling at nfb.org
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Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] IRS <http://id.me/> ID.me Verification
Is this reply ok to post on the Deafblind list?
On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:50 PM, Yingling, Valerie < <mailto:Vyingling at nfb.org> Vyingling at nfb.org> wrote:
Maurice,
Thank you for your email. In December, the National Federation of the Blind alerted IRS counsel to our concerns about the accessibility of IRS <http://id.me/> ID.me, and we have requested to speak with someone within IRS about the accessibility of various features. I hope to have more information to share in the near future.
Sincerely,
Valerie
Valerie Yingling
Legal Program Coordinator
200 East Wells Street, Baltimore, MD 21230
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Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:31 PM
To: Yingling, Valerie < <mailto:Vyingling at nfb.org> Vyingling at nfb.org>
Subject: Fwd: [NFB-DB] IRS <http://id.me/> ID.me Verification
Hi can you look into this for this person?
Maurice Mines, Board Member
National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
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From: Stuart Salvador via NFB-DB < <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] IRS <http://id.me/> ID.me Verification
Date: February 8, 2022 at 11:03:31 AM PST
To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List < <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Stuart Salvador < <mailto:stuartsalvador at gmail.com> stuartsalvador at gmail.com>
Reply-To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List < <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
Hi Maurice, Stuart here.
This verification requirement is a complete block to anyone Blind
without sighted assistance to access the following information from
the IRS:
<https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/new-online-identity-verification-process-for-accessing-irs-self-help-tools> https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/new-online-identity-verification-process-for-accessing-irs-self-help-tools
However, I learned that yesterday the IRS said so many people
complained that they are "reconsidering" how this will be implemented
now. While for now it has still not been taken down and I still can't
access this, that means we have an additional window to advocate for
this to
be changed for the next tax season if advocacy gets on-board to stop
it in the future. Since this affects all U.S. taxpayers and everyone
needs to file taxes, I can't imagine there is a higher level of impact
from any single private company issue by comparison.
EOM
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 12:17 PM maurice mines via NFB-DB
< <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
good morning, if you're talking about the verification that Apple Inc.,
nothing to do with the national Federation of the blind. Sends out when
you request technical support from Apple. That verification comes up as
a box on all of your Apple devices that are signed into your Apple ID.
However you should know you do have first right of refusal meaning you
don't have to use it. However if you don't use it then you will need to
provide your product serial number and/or registration number to get
technical support. If this is some other verification those
verifications generally come from say for instance your financial
institution. In that case I would suggest getting in contact with your
financial institution and mentioning the fact that you are deaf blind.
I've done both of these things. And for the most part they seem to work
people seem to get it. This is why this year one of the national
Federation of the blind legislative priorities if the 21st-century web
accessibility proposal. Those of you that are involved in Washington
seminar activities might wish to talk with whoever is doing legislative
appointments in your state about this. However you should know that for
the most part I personally have not had a big issue with the
verifications except for with my financial institution. In that case I
constantly remind the financial institution ideal with, about the
accessibility barrier that exists.
When contacting any of these entities about these verification messages,
always be polite. I think outfits get turned off quickest if you're mad
and upset. Another suggestion is to find out who within a certain
company handles accessibility issues regarding their products and/or
their customer service offerings.
If this is extreme, then yes you might wish to contact the legal team at
the national office. But I would only do this if this is an extreme
access barrier. I hope that my comments, and advice on this issue are
helpful. I am just building on what Robert Stargell said over the weekend.
Please note that I am dictating this to the computer via dictation
software. There may in fact be some minor errors in the written text
above. If there's something that is written above that you truly don't
understand, please reach out to me and asked me what my original intent
was? I look forward to clearing up any misunderstandings that may have
arisen based on the above written text. Thank you very much for reading
this.
Maurice Mines, Board Member
National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division
Email: <mailto:board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org> board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org < <mailto:board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org> mailto:board4 at nfbdeaf-blind.org>
Website: <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> www.nfbdeaf-blind.org < <http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org/> http://www.nfbdeaf-blind.org>
Live the life you want.
The National Federation of the Blind Deaf-Blind Division, a proud division
of the National Federation of the Blind, is a community of members and
friends who believe in the hopes and dreams of the nation's blind. Every
day
we work together to help blind people live the lives they want.
On 2/8/2022 7:37 AM, Leisa Gary via NFB-DB wrote:
. Obviously this is a new access barrier for the IRS. Does anyone know the email address and or phone number in order to present access issues to the NFB at the national level? Is it something like access at <http://nfb.org/> nfb.org?
Thank you,Hello,
If this is the case, it is new since I left the service. Obviously this is a new access barrier for the IRS. Does anyone know the email address and or phone number in order to present access issues to the NFB at the national level? Is it something like access at <http://nfb.org/> nfb.org?
Thank you
Leisa Sekhon
On Feb 6, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Robert stigile via NFB-DB < <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hi
They are using id meet to verify your identity and the only way to get through it is to have someone sighted to assist
Robert Stigile, Second Vice-President
National Federation of the Blind of California
President San Fernando Valley Chapter
818-381-9568
On Feb 6, 2022, at 4:42 PM, Stuart Salvador via NFB-DB < <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hi Leisa, Stuart here. Thanks very much for your reply. I am not able
to get through the online IRS system because of <http://id.me/> ID.me blocking me. My
credit is excellent, but I don't have anything about credit checks on
there. They want photos and videos of me. I cannot get through to IRS
by phone at all: either hung up on or relay disconnects from too long
of hold time.
EOM
On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 6:03 PM Leisa Gary via NFB-DB < <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hello,
I was an IRS customer representative. Are you not able to get through the online IRS system to get transcripts? I know that some people cannot do this based on not passing a credit check, but are you not able to get into the online system? Also, are you not able to get your transcripts after calling them?
Thank you,
Leisa Sekhon
On Feb 5, 2022, at 11:27 AM, Stuart Salvador via NFB-DB < <mailto:nfb-db at nfbnet.org> nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Hello fellow NFB-DB members, Stuart here.
Have any of you been able to get through <http://id.me/> ID.me verification to access
any services with the IRS? <http://id.me/> ID.me requires photos with very specific
parameters or video of your face again with specific instructions as
to what your face needs to do. The instructions are not accessible to
JAWS in Windows 10 or VoiceOver on iOS 15, and it's not realistic my
residual vision to do this right so it's a barrier to access. I don't
know what anyone else's experiences may have been with <http://id.me/> ID.me. If
you've encountered any problems, please let me know as I plan to write
my representatives and senators this upcoming week. When I do, I want
to include as many stakeholders and issues as possible so they know
this is not OK to restrict IRS services needed to do taxes. My
particular issue was in getting an online transcript which I use every
year to file taxes because many of my tax forms like 1099 come in tiny
print and no option that is accessible to me so this helps me get all
my numbers and accounts right. I can't certify under penalty of
perjury my tax return filing is 100% correct and accurate based on
what others tell me my tax reports say due to limits on my
understanding and
possibility of human error. That is a burden to place on my loved ones
in the event something was entered incorrectly, so the online
transcript allows me to know how to file correctly and is critical for
me to maintain that independence as you cannot defer legal liability
if there were to be a mistake when you file no matter how much you pay
tax professionals it's always back to you unless a simply calculation
error is covered by their contract and things like that (yet that only
reimburses you for any financial losses, it doesn't remove the federal
liability you have the taxes are correct). Thanks very much for any
feedback or assistance, and for anyone else that does (or knows how
best to) advocate on this topic, too.
EOM
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