[NFB-DB] Membership Cancellation?

[Stuart Salvador]

Hi all, Stuart here with a clarification.

Proxy voting enables a vote in absence. An inclusive perspective may
posit we can establish a presence to effect change, exert influence
and advocate as best we're able, even when conditions or capacity make
travel untenable. Homebound, like me, are now able to contribute more
than ever, if allowed.

As an example: at one time, only landowners who maintained a residence
were permitted to vote. If instead only travelers can vote, it seems
the opposite extreme. Hypothetically, if someone came on the news
today to declare all who couldn't be physically present at a specific
US voting location somewhere in the country during a specific period
of time would now be prevented from voting entirely by any means, I
can't see how NFB could in good faith argue against it when that's the
practice NFB is apparently following for voting itself. I would want
to advocate against that, and I'd not want to be undermined in my
messaging by being a member of an organization favoring or practicing
it as the right to vote is foundational and fundamental.

Thanks again!
EOM


On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 12:34 AM Peter Donahue via NFB-DB
<nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>         Proxy voting has been a no-no in the federation for years.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NFB-DB <nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Stuart Salvador via NFB-DB
> Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 10:35 PM
> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Stuart Salvador <stuartsalvador at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] Membership Cancellation?
>
> Doula,
>
> I'm sorry if I have anything incorrect. I understand that somehow I could in some way have someone physically at the meeting move to elect people who aren't present, but that's not my greatest concern. What I understood was that, regardless of that, there's no provisions to allow voting for anyone that can't physically travel or attend and no chance to change that. Is that correct?
>
> If so, my understanding was it doesn't matter what the constitution says now or in the 1940's, who received it in advance, who is elected to serve, or who is on a Board when, no matter what the organizational division does, it will never permit voting by anyone who can't physically be present wherever the meeting is located because it's required to be in the constitution because it's what President Riccobono and/or the Board of NFB says. Is that correct?
>
> If yes to both, then as for my feelings on inclusion, what you are hearing from me is accurate I think on my feeling. Basically, I have more than enough challenges with discrimination already in my daily life, and I already have everyone else in the world it feels like attacking me these days. So, while I want to advocate for DeafBlind like myself whenever and however I can, my feeling is I should not be a member if persons with multiple disabilities who are DeafBlind that prevent them from being in person to have a voice, yet are paying dues, enter into a "taxation without representation" relationship where they never actually vote in anyone who represents them because it won't ever be allowed.
>
> So, my thinking was to figure out how do I not be a member since NFB isn't including myself or others like me anyway. Otherwise, I basically am giving a +1 to its practices as per its membership number when I would feel like I'm doing something really wrong even if I'm only a drop in the bucket.
>
> Thanks!
> EOM
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 10:03 PM Doula Jarboe via NFB-DB <nfb-db at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Stuart,
> >
> >      What you are saying isn't correct.  The people at the in person
> > meeting can move to elect people who aren't present in person.  If
> > that motion passes, and you have someone there in person who nominates
> > you, then you may be elected without having to be there in person.  I
> > hear you saying that this goes against inclusion, and I think that's
> > something that needs to be worked on.  I hope that clears this up for you.
> > Warmly,
> > Doula
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NFB-DB <nfb-db-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Stuart Salvador
> > via NFB-DB
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2023 7:28 PM
> > To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Stuart Salvador <stuartsalvador at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [NFB-DB] Membership Cancellation?
> >
> > Hi all, Stuart here.
> >
> > It came up on the call tonight that there's no provisions to allow
> > voting for anyone that can't physically travel or attend and no chance
> > to change that. I've enjoyed communicating on the list-serv, but how
> > does one stop being a member?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > EOM
> >
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