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well stated. I believe it is very important that we make our needs
known and make sure that folks understand that there is more
involved than blindness here.<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/18/2013 6:04 PM, M Lucca wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hello
Heather,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Your
situation is certainly frustrating. It provides a clear
illustration of ignorance regarding Deaf-Blind needs and
reasonable accommodations. We must keep in mind, though,
that advocacy plays a key role in breaking down the barriers
resulting from other’s ignorance. One of the important
components of advocacy, in my opinion, is the transformation
of ignorance into understanding, and understanding into
knowledge. This process is frustrating and discouraging, to
say the least.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I
recommend you write a detailed letter to your instructor
expressing the facts of your situation. For example, you
objectively explained you are required to watch videos from
which you must create videos. While you understand fully the
vitality of learning ASL as the language is spoken (using
one’s hands), as a person without sight, you are unable to
do so. In order for you to obtain the information needed to
successfully complete your task, you need to verbally
communicate with others. Although one may argue you should
use the alphabet to ask for clarification, you could counter
with the fact your peers have access to the visual
information needed to communicate without sight; they can
easily iedentify a hand-shape visually, they can easily
review a book for visual clarification, and they can easily
navigate the videos visually. You should emphasize you are
not requesting “special treatment”—you are requesting
reasonable accommodations. A written letter to your
instructor will help you develop a strong basis for pursuing
legal representation if your instructor continues to refuse
to negotiate reasonable accommodations.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Also,
Heather, if you have access to an office responsible for
serving students with disabilities, you should consult them.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Situations
like yours make me frustrated for those Deaf-Blind involved.
As a Deaf-Blind person myself, I know very well the time,
energy, and emotional discipline these situations require.
Stay strong and clear head, and never steer away from the
fact. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best
of luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Marisa<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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nfb-db [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org">mailto:nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>heather albright<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">I am
taking the course in a class room where my professor is
deaf and does not speak! So I have a note taker, a reader
for the board, and two deaf </span>interpreters who sign
to me what the professor saying and showing me the signs! I
don't speak with them I just guess, sometimes a classmate
will tell me what the teacher is saying, the one who reads
the board! That is in the classroom. We have to have lab
hours in the ASL lab making videos to show our signing and
you have to watch the videos to get the infromation to be
able to make your signing videos with quicktime! While in
the lab, you cant speak to ask questions or bring a voice
reader to read the videos, your not allowed to use spoken
language in the lab! I just feel like their making this
really hard for me to participate in the ASL program here!
For example, I go to the lab today for tutoringand I have to
sign in with my id and some how find the person to whom I
will be working with to learn the signs, without ever
speaking at all! So if we are watching videos, they will be
signing to me and I have to guess what their trying to
convey to me! I understand not wating to use spoken
language but everyone is learning through their eyes by
seeing the signs and seeing the book telling them the sign!
I have nothing telling me anything, no braille book and no
way to understand the tactile signs because I cant ask what
their signing to me! Any ideas? Heather ----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org"
title="nfb-db@nfbnet.org">NFB Deaf-Blind Division
Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:53 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Subject:</span></b><span
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Re: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Explain more how you are taking this
class? How are you getting the information being conveyed in
general? It would seem as <br>
though there must be something that could be worked out with
the instructor to signal when you don't get something without
<br>
speaking? This is an interesting dilema since it could affect
any blind person taking a course like this.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Steve Jacobson<br>
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 19:29:08 -0500, heather albright wrote:<br>
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>My problem is that they told me I cant speak if I have any
questions or ask <br>
>about a sign or how to make the sign! They said I will be
asked to leave <br>
>and cant come back till the next day! If I do it more
than three times, I <br>
>am band from the lab for 2 weeks! But I cant read the
book with all the <br>
>signs or see the videos! I am supposed to have 21 hours
in the lab! I <br>
>understand that you should use ASL but if you don't know
it, how can you use <br>
>it! If you cant see the person signing, what should you
do? I have two <br>
>tactile interpreters signing to me with me know any sign
language at all. I <br>
>only get 5 percent of what their saying! Is there a better
method of <br>
>teaching me? Even people taking ESL use their language to
teach someone <br>
>English!<br>
>----- Original Message ----- <br>
>From: RJ Sandefur<br>
>To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List<br>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:18 PM<br>
>Subject: Re: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab<br>
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>Hay I don't see any problem<br>
> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
> From: heather albright<br>
> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 8:13 PM<br>
> Subject: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab<br>
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> Hello, I was wondering about the rules in the ASL lab!
They said I cant <br>
>talk in the lab at all, it is against the rules to speak!
So if I don't get <br>
>something, I cant ask to be sure! Is that not against ADA
because, I won't <br>
>have equal access to the lab! If I speak they can make me
leave, they said I <br>
>can go to another room but, it won't be the lab!
Afterall I am blind and <br>
>if I cant ask about a sign, that seems a little unfair!
So how can a <br>
>colledge say this to me and other blind students taking
ASL? Heather<br>
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