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<DIV><FONT size=5>It is not the school, it is DARS! The OSD will give me a
reader and an assistant in class but, not outside of class! Work in the lab
is considered outside of class! But in class, I cant ask anyone about the
signs verbally, I have to guess from them signing to me! The only voice is
someone reading the board like telling me the assignments and what is due
etc. But not, I go to school, and than sign it after saying that is what
their doing! I usually gathered this information from one of my class
mates sending me the notes! The next day but, I am really lost in the
class! I don't even know any of the classjmates because their is no
talking in the class and I cant see them and have never heard their
voice! I know this is tabu to speak in deaf culture but, how can I
learn when I don't live in the deaf culture! I think ASL one should
not be so ridget, perhaps ASL 2 and 3, I can see doing this but not in level
1! Heather </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=lucca.marisa@gmail.com href="mailto:lucca.marisa@gmail.com">M Lucca</A>
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=nfb-db@nfbnet.org href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">'NFB
Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 20, 2013 7:08 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [nfb-db] rules in the ASLlab</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi
Heather,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Your
school should have an office for students with disabilities. If the office
states you are not allowed to have a reader or other services due to the fact
you already have a degree, you should consider requesting proof of the office’s
legal right to refuse to provide services on that basis. Something just doesn’t
seem right….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Marisa<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> nfb-db
[mailto:nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>heather
albright<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 20, 2013 10:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> NFB
Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [nfb-db] rules in the
ASLlab<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt">Well, it is like this, I have
to bring my own reader to the lab to read the flash cards from the
teacher. But, DARS said they won't provide a reader because I already have
a degree from a university! They taking their first test on monday
but I only know the letters as I did not have a reader for the lab! IT is
going to fast for me because, I cant just ask someone what their signing!
I asked someone about the letters on this list, and now I know them!
But I cant carry a conversation in ASL, like everyone else! I guess you
should according to the teacher in the class. I really don't like that
rule of not talking, I guess one has to abide by it! IT seems so unfair,
other blind students seem to do just fine! But, they have help from DARS
while I don't! So they have readers in the lab! Heather
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=marsha.drenth@gmail.com href="mailto:marsha.drenth@gmail.com">Marsha
Drenth</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
title=nfb-db@nfbnet.org href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">NFB Deaf-Blind Division
Mailing List</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Friday, September
20, 2013 9:02 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Re: [nfb-db] rules
in the ASLlab<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Heather,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I am a bit confused. I think others have given you good
solutions to the lab situation, althought annoying, I hope you can stick with
the class. I am confused though. I am assuming that you know the alphabet? And
that when your in class you are learning the signs tacutally? I mean by
tactually is by your hands on top of their hands. Interpertors can go very fast
but if they slow down, break down the signs so you know the movement, you can
pick it up. I had also wanted to take a ASL at my university but chose not too,
as I was concerned at how much I would actually
learn. <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Good luck!~<BR><BR>Marsha drenth <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Sent with my IPhone <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:13 PM,
"heather albright" <<A
href="mailto:kd5cbl@gmail.com">kd5cbl@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt">Hello, I was wondering about
the rules in the ASL lab! They said I cant talk in the lab at all, it is
against the rules to speak! So if I don't get something, I cant ask to
be sure! Is that not against ADA because, I won't have equal access to
the lab! If I speak they can make me leave, they said I can go to
another room but, it won't be the lab! Afterall I am blind and if
I cant ask about a sign, that seems a little unfair! So how can a
colledge say this to me and other blind students taking ASL?
Heather </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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