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What's Ald stand for exactly? the Fm transmitter one uses to hear
people and such where the person wears a mike and the deafblind
person has a receiver?<br>
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El 02/11/2013 01:55 p.m., Scott Davert escribió:
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<div>Hi Tracie.</div>
<div>Would you say that using an ALD this year was more
challenging than before? I had to return mine once, but that was
all when I was in Dallas last year. I was not in Orlando during
this convention, as I had just returned from running a seminar
in California and and work wouldn't give me 2 weeks in a row
off. I had also been in Michigan earlier in June, so I could
understand there point.</div>
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<div>Scott<br>
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On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:28 PM, Tracie Inman <<a
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<div><span>Heather, Marsha, Janice, and All: </span></div>
<div> You are not alone. I, too struggled with the ALD's. I
took them back several times and told Curtis they weren't
working properly. I was told to change the setting on my
C.I. and to hold the cord out on the ALD . That was
unsuccessful. We heard from many others who were
struggling with the ALD's. In short, the ALD situation at
the 2013 convention was not a good one. President Naulty
has written to Mark Riccobono and requested a meeting.
The situation with the ALD's is one of the subjects on
the agenda for that meeting. The Deaf-Blind division
plans to work closely with National to improve this
situation and others. </div>
<div> While there are still many areas that we need to
improve to make the conventions fully accessible to all, I
do believe that we have made a LOT of improvement int he
last few months. Operation Outreach is making a HUGE
impact on the federation, the Deaf-Blind is speaking up
for their needs, and the federation family as a whole is
beginning to accept the Deaf-Blind. Yes, it takes time
(and a lot of hard work), but we are getting there slowly
but surely. </div>
<div> Please keep advocating for your needs, keep working
towards the goal of changing what it means to be
Deaf-Blind, and keep overcoming your obstacles. Together
we can make a difference. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Sincerely,</div>
<div>Tracie Inman</div>
<div>NFB Deaf-Blind Division</div>
<div>First Vice President</div>
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Janice and All,<br>
I completely agree with you in this regard. Although
the NFB for many years had a deafblind division,
still we haven't until recently been accepted. Not
that we are completely now, but as we have all seen,
that trend is changing. Its the same with the guide
dog division, for many years persons who use guides
dogs were brushed off for their choice. No longer,
NAGDU has worked hard to change that thinking. We as
deafblind people are starting to stand up for our
rights, we have a long way to go but will get there.
I suppose if I have anything to do with it..<br>
<br>
I have also used the assistive listening devices at
convention, two years ago. We came to convention
with my own batteries, with my own ear buds and
other related equipment that would connect it to my
hearing aids. In the long run it still did not work.
Its incredibly frustrating. Two years ago, when the
ALD worked, I could hear, today if I tried to use
one, that would probably not be the case. <br>
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Does anyone know anything about the ALD's used at
conventions? Whose are they? When were they
purchased? And would there be a better options now?
And is this something that the deafblind division
should look at taking over? <br>
<br>
Just some thoughts...<br>
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Marsha drenth <br>
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On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Janice Toothman <<a
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> Hi Heather I think a common problem with DB
people willingness to come to Conventions (apart
from finances) is whether their will have the
accommodations they need to get the benefits of the
convention. It is sad that many feel they do not
have adequate support (e.g. SSP, alternative to
listening devices) and people who are appreciative
of their difficulties and willing to work with them
rather than brush them off as a minority, who has to
fend for themselves. I know that not everyone is
rude but their are many people who do not understand
our unique needs. National seems to think that they
can offer listening devices and expect that they
will work for the DB. I complained three times that
I could not hear last July; they exchanged the
listening device-with no improvement. They said try
changing adjust my hearing aids but that was also
unsuccessful. I gave up. I really needed to
listening because of the resolutions that the DB
Division had to have passed. It was frustrating.
It costs money to invest in technology that will
assist the greater needs of the DB rather than
someone perhaps with mild hearing loss.<br>
> Janice<br>
> On 10/31/2013 2:28 PM, heather albright wrote:<br>
>> I think I know 3 here in Austin! But the
DB program in austin is a joke! I wish I knew
someone who could make it better! Our state
convention is next week, and I have not heard from
any DB persons who are going to be there! Heather<br>
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April,<br>
Doing all you can is good, keep on doing that. I
understand what you mean by lossing your vision.
Most of the time its out of our control, in which we
lose first or last. <br>
<br>
Like others have said, keep on posting, these are
all things as deafblind persons need to discuss and
think about..<br>
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Marsha drenth <br>
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> I am sorry I haven't responded. It isn't easy
for me to figure out how to respond easily. <br>
> <br>
> heather albright - That is a great idea. My
regular doctor finally developed an online system a
year ago. The specialists don't appear to have
one. I think I need to request one. Though I
generally get blank stares when I request anything.<br>
> <br>
> Marsha Drenth- I've always ignored my hearing
loss. As long sight, that was what mattered. Now,
with my sight undependeable, it's not easy. One
thing that often isn't covered, is denial is as much
about those around us, as ourselves. As a society,
we're so set on everyone being the same, and if you
aren't, you almost don't exist. It's as if people
are scared to admit that someone can live
differently than they do. Some days, those around
us deny our needs to meet theirs, and it's sad. I
would rather lose my hearing than my eye. I think
my vision will be gone first though. With all my
other disabilities, it's not easy. I keep going as
best I can. Some days, it feels as if my eye is
filling in for me, even though I'm not really
seeing. As if that makes any sense.<br>
> <br>
> DELCINA M BROWN - I'm hoping to get the
specialists to work through emails. It would help.
I will keep posting, and reading every day. I don't
want to ask questions that have been answered
hundreds of times. I still have a little time,
though how much, I can't guarantee. I have set a
date to start seriously learning Braille though, so
I can eventually learn refreshable Braille.<br>
> <br>
> Catherine Miller- Thanks! I think I need a
stronger advocate than my husband. He sits there
and trusts every word they say. He's been in the
military too long. He lets them brush it off, and
disappear as if that's normal. Twice now, a
specialist has said what they had to say, and been
gone from the room before I had even figured out the
first sentence they said. I hear blind people
complain about people speaking slower and louder to
them, and yet, that's often just what I need to be
able to comprehend people, especially males with low
voices. He says I don't respond fast enough. And
yet, I can't respond till I fully hear it.
Listening to most people talk is like listening to a
VHS tape played at double speed. I can never catch
up! That's why I spend more time online. I can
think, process, and then reply.<br>
> <br>
> I do not look forward to the day I have to
learn how to use only keyboard commands to use a
computer. As often as weird things show up as I
type now, that will be a disaster. I will have to
keep writing and publishing though.<br>
> <br>
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I've never heard of a deafblind program in Dallas,
but I haven't lived their for a few years. Again
this might be something for NAD. Do you have an
update?<br>
<br>
Marsha drenth <br>
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> I finally have contact with the fokes who know
the individual and I told them I would ask on this
list, is there a DB program in Dallas? There trying
to find him a place to live and I don't know yet
weather or not he is out of the nursing home! I
suspect, they cant get him released till he has a
place to stay! That is all I know for now! Heather
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Cathy,<br>
Thanks for the backing. I like to think that some of
my social work classes are soaking in. LOL <br>
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<br>
I am interested in hearing more about the total
immersion program you attended to learn ASL. Where
was this program? How long were you there? Any
details you would like to share, would be
interesting. <br>
<br>
Thanks, <br>
<br>
Marsha drenth <br>
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On Oct 31, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Catherine Miller <<a
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> Doctors' staff are busy, and if they don't
truly undeerstand what you need, they will brushhhhh
you off. They are accustomed to knowing everything
health-wise, but it will be up to you to teachh them
about deaf-blindness. this is a tall order given
your weakened emotionaal state brought on by the
stresses of accepting the tremendous changes
demanded by your senses during this time. An idea
might be to send a letter explaining what your needs
will be, making sure your dooctor reads it before
your scheduled appointment.<br>
> <br>
> Congratulations on your decision to learn
braille. I'm sure you knoow that it will open many
new avenues of communication to you. It can be an
arduous process, but try to read, learn, and
practice everry single day to hasten the process.
It will bring many rewards.<br>
> <br>
> I attended a total immersion program to learn
ASL. All my teachers were Deaf.. Based on their
prior experience, they urged me to learn the signs
first, and to use tactile methods after I learned
the signs. April, this waas a profound waste of
time for three months of my life. I felt so
stupiddbecause I could not follow the signs. They
ddid not seem to realize I could see only movement.
Finally I switched to tactile reception, and my
learning rate became airborne. I had been standing
on my head to see the signs, when all Ireally needed
was a light touch of the fingers to assist my
residual vision. Today I have lost more vision and
mut rely totally on tactile; but my message is that
no one knows better than you what you can and cannot
see or hear.<br>
> <br>
> Finally, I want to address Marsha's
disclaimer. I am a trained counselor, and
everything she said is accu April: First I
want to comment on your need to coommunicate
optimally with your doctors. I urge you to embark
on a new paradigm based in the assurance that you
are totally within your rights to demand andd expect
that your health care proffessionals are obligated
to provide the form of communication that
accommodates your individual needs. Visit your
doctors with an advocate until you are strong enough
to do it alone. Your advocate can be a good friend,
a family member, or someone who understandds what
your needs are, as long as it's someone you believe
can stand behind you and not back down<br>
> <br>
> I'm sorry, but my software needs updating. It
has switcheed the position of the first and last
part of this email, and if I try to repair it, this
email won't get sent. Know that we care, and that
we are very glad you have found us here. We gain
strength from your experience, April.. We hope you
will continue to share with us.<br>
> <br>
> Cathy Miller.<br>
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>> Sheila,<br>
>> Congradulations on the new board position.
I am happy to hear that the ICC presentation went
well. But sorry to hear that you didn't get to
formally gather a commiitee or division. It will all
come in due time. Your on the right track though. <br>
>> <br>
>> This brings up another very good point, how
many deafblind persons are on state boards? This
would be an interesting fact to know. Have deafblind
persons been excluded from the boards? I would hope
not intentionally. And if we as deafblind persons
can get on the state boards of affiliate would this
increase our efforts. Of course I am not suggesting
this just so we can increase the deafblind issues,
but in general. Anyone who is elected to a board,
must have the greater state affiliate in mind. <br>
>> <br>
>> Marsha drenth <br>
>> Sent with my IPhone <br>
>> <br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Sheila
Leigland <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sleigland@bresnan.net">sleigland@bresnan.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Hi a gentleman from I can connect spoke
via skype at our state convention and the
presentation was excellent. I have also been elected
to the board and am second vice president so I'm
hoping to influence and encourage positive feedback
in our state concerning deaf blind issues.I didn't
get to speak about forming a committee about these
issues but hope to be able to bring this before the
board sometime in the near distant future.<br>
>>> <br>
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:40:20 -0400<br>
>> From: Marsha Drenth <<a
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href="mailto:marsha.drenth@gmail.com">marsha.drenth@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] Adjusting, and a few
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>> April,<br>
>> I don't have an answer for the doctor forms
part of your post. I do want to responde to your
post about your denial of your hearing and vision
loss. <br>
>> The loss of any sense can be hard, some of
us deal with it in different ways. When a person
deals with the loss of two senses, it is doubly
hard. Its a griving process, and denial is one of
those stages. <br>
>> In my experience, taking action, getting
involved, meeting others, learning, helps the
process along. The reason I say this is, again in my
experience, over the last two years I have lost
80percent of my hearing. I was blind all of my life.
I swing back and forth from being absolutely
frustrated to sad to acceptance. Getting involved,
learning new skills, talking to others, asking
questions, taking action, all give your mind, body
and soul something else to work on. And even if that
means one or two days you have to force the issue,
of just getting out of bed, or getting out of the
house, or making a call, or learning a new skill. Of
course a counselor who is trained in mental health
and the adjustment of disability, can also help. <br>
>> Your not the only onw in denial, in lossing
your vision or your hearing. I know many other
deafblind persons who struggle with this on a daily
basis, some shut themselves into a house, others do
something about, and then a majority of us, are some
where in the middle. <br>
>> I wish I had some great words of wisdom,
its a one day at time thing. <br>
>> I am sure if you keeping on posting about
this, you will find that your not alone. Which can
help that denial too. <br>
>> <br>
>> Here is my disclaimer, I am not a
counselor, but a social worker. So my advice above
is not official. <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Marsha drenth <br>
>> Sent with my IPhone <br>
>> <br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:23 PM, April
Brown <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aprilbrownwrite@gmail.com">aprilbrownwrite@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Hello,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Until a year ago, I mostly ignored my
low hearing. I've worn a hearing aid for years. A
year ago, my vision suddenly failed drastically.
Obviously, it was never good to begin with either,
and I never did learn to read lips. I still don't
have an official diagnosis or prognosis.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Both of these issues have caused me
issues in the past. Even as my vision fails, and my
eye hurts constantly, I still comprehend better by
seeing and reading. I intend to learn Braille in
January. (Novemeber is a busy month for writers,
and December is busy with in laws).<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Many, many years ago, in college, I
attempted to take a sign language course. I didn't
learn a thing. All I ever saw was motion, and
nothing that made sense. At the time, I blamed it
on the stress of my life. Now, I'm not so sure it
was just stress. Still, I wish I had learned!<br>
>>> <br>
>>> In the meantime, and in the future, how
do I convince doctors, and other professionals, that
an email is better than trying to comprehend a phone
conversation?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> To go along with another thread or two,
a few times I asked for help on a blind list I had
the "I can call you and talk you though it"
response. Which is great, except, I don't really
comprehend well on the phone, even from people I
know. Especially if there is any background sound.
I do appreciate the sentiment. <br>
>>> <br>
>>> I'm still very new in this situation,
and yes, I'm partially still in denial, I'm sure.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> April Brown<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:10:24 -0700<br>
>> From: maurice mines <<a
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>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] montana convention<br>
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>> Graduations. Hope everything goes well for
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>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Sincerely Maurice Mines. Phone
360-524-0791. Work/school email, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:maurice.mines@pcc.edu.">maurice.mines@pcc.edu.</a><br>
>>> On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Sheila
Leigland <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sleigland@bresnan.net">sleigland@bresnan.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Hi a gentleman from I can connect spoke
via skype at our state convention and the
presentation was excellent. I have also been elected
to the board and am second vice president so I'm
hoping to influence and encourage positive feedback
in our state concerning deaf blind issues.I didn't
get to speak about forming a committee about these
issues but hope to be able to bring this before the
board sometime in the near distant future.<br>
>>> <br>
>>>
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>> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:57:04 -0400<br>
>> From: "DELCINA M BROWN" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:delcenia@prodigy.net">delcenia@prodigy.net</a>><br>
>> To: "Tracie Inman" <<a
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href="mailto:tracieinman@yahoo.com">tracieinman@yahoo.com</a>>,
"NFB Deaf-Blind Division<br>
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>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] nfb-db Digest, Vol
57, Issue 12<br>
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>> First, let me introduce my self. My name is
Delcenia Brown and I am a member of the National
Federation of the blind of Cleveland, Ohio. I am new
to this mailing list. Therefore alot of you I do not
know and alot of abbreviation I do not know. It will
be nice if sometimes some of you would spell out
what you are talking about and it would be nice to
know what state you are in. <br>
>> <br>
>> ?<br>
>> <br>
>> Tracy, I understand and appreciate what you
are saying, your identity does not change because of
your situation or how you handle certain settings.
Taking advantage of what you have left is
understandable. I am greatful for what little
hearing and vision I have left. I also take
advantage of that by reading with a CCTV when I can
and using a fm system or pocket talker at the
appropriate time. <br>
>> <br>
>> ?<br>
>> <br>
>> At the same time I wish someone had taken
the time to teach me braille, sign language when I
was younger. Now as I grow older and have other
obstacles it is a struggle to learn braille. I still
have no one to teach me sign language. So, yes,
reminding Randy, that there are some deafblind that
are hard of hearing and do not sign was a gentle
response. <br>
>> <br>
>> ?<br>
>> <br>
>> Just recently, I have posted a notice
asking if anyone in my state share my interests and
got no response. However my state president does
share my interest and I believe at the state
convention which is to be held November 1 thru 3,
2013, the agenda does include information about the
I can connect program. <br>
>> <br>
>> ?<br>
>> <br>
>> Now, the downside of things. I have
completed my application and it was approved. I have
had my assessment and I believe all of the equipment
has been ordered based on messages that I have
received. However, I still have not actually recieve
anything as of today. This process started back in
March or April. I am grateful for the possibility of
obtaining the equipment, it is frustrating that it
has taken so long and no one is returning my call.<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> I gladly get on board!<br>
>> <br>
>> Delcenia<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
>> From: Tracie Inman <br>
>> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:06 AM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] nfb-db Digest, Vol
57, Issue 12<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Hi Randy: I hope you're doing well and
AADB is growing stronger under your leadership. I
wish you all the best always. Just a gentle
reminder my friend that many many Deaf - Blind are
hard of hearing (non sign speaking) blind folks.
Randy, indeed since getting the two C.I.'s I'm
guilty of using voice, Assisted listening devices
and voice interpreters as opposed to using my
signing, using interpreters, etc. I have switched
to English. My excuses has been that my vision is
going "bye bye" and depending on tactile scares me.
In time, that may be my only option but for now I'm
surrounded by hearing family and friends so I've
gotten into a "comfort zone" with the success of my
C.I.'s. What I'm trying to say here is, remember
that, just because you might not observe the folks
signing doesn't mean they're not Deaf-blind. <br>
>> All the folks in the NFB Deaf-Blind
division who are promoting ICC are Deaf-Blind. In
fact, every one assigned to Operation Outreach (our
outreach project to raise awareness of the ICC and
the Deaf-Blind community requesting ALL 50
affiliates and the D.C. affiliate to form committees
for the Deaf-Blind in their individual committee) -
including our mutual friend Marsha drenth are
Deaf-Blind. <br>
>> Speaking of, hey Scott if you want to
help please contact me or Joe Naulty. We could
always use more helping hands. We got two projects
going on at the moment and probably will start a
third. You know about Operation Outreach. We've
also started a committee on SSP issues. If you want
to help us, we can always use another helping hand.
I do believe the Deaf-Blind division is working
harder than it ever has before. I dare to say that
we've accomplished more in the last few months than
we have in many years. The latest announcement we
heard was that Scott Labarre (affiliate President of
Colorado and a National NFB Board Member) has agreed
to set up a Deaf-Blind Issues committee in the
Colorado affiliate. We also heard that the
President of the Alaska affiliate is Deaf-Blind. So
climb abaord the NFB DB Express and lets get
chugging along on this exciting adventure raising
awareness of Deaf-Blind issues, ICC, and the need
for SSP's. All are welcome aboard. <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Best Wishes, <br>
>> Tracie Inman<br>
>> NFB Deaf-Blind Division<br>
>> First Vice President<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tracieinman@yahoo.com">tracieinman@yahoo.com</a><br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:08 AM, "<a
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:03:24 -0500<br>
From: "Gene Richburg" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gene5402@austin.rr.com">gene5402@austin.rr.com</a>><br>
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Subject: [nfb-db] anyone on this list at hknc?<br>
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Hi, I heard that there are people on this list who
are at HKNC, I would like to know if anyone knows
how there system works in regards to getting hearing
aids? I hear that they have an awesome audiologist,
and they would be able to get the right technologys
together that will allow me to hear in any
environment. Now, my hearing loss is severe to
profound, I have a very severe to profound loss in
my left ear, with 25% hearing, then I believe in my
right ear, it?s just very severe, with only 15%
hearing left in that ear. What I?m wanting to know,
is how the process works, will they let me try aids
out before Dars makes a commitment? I am supposed
to be going to HKNC at some point, I just have to
get my I e p plan developed through Dars, then I
gotta get this New york state medical evaluation
form done, and do what ever that requires, and all
that, I?ll get there some day hopefully soon though,
and I can?t wait, cause like Heather said, this db
program here in austin tx sucks. For example, they
have made so many promices about what they were
gonna help me with, then broke them. Last year, I
took a business class, and they took notes for me,
and they said that when the training was in the
halfway period, they would go over the notes, and
make sure I understood them, then when the classes
wer all finished, we would go over all the notes,
well they decided that they didn?t wanna do that,
then after it was all over with, then they told me
that they couldn?t help me run the business, and I
said, I know you can?t help me do that, but you can
at leaste help me get the training and everything I
needed to get started, and they just kept repeating
them selves, so I just told them screw it for now,
then I got an opportunity to go to HKNC, and I?m
taking it, cause I want enough indipendents to not
have to depend on the db program for anything. If
anyone wants to hear of anything else the db program
didn?t do, I?ll tell you, I just don?t wanna go on
and on unless people wanna hear about it Lol.<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:24:03 -0400<br>
From: Marsha Drenth <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Gene,<br>
I am not yet at HKNC but will be starting my
training in 11days. I took a tour first before
deciding to do the training. If you can that would
be useful for you to see. DARS should pay for the
tour. <br>
Yes the audiologist is great. What I know is that
they will fit you for aids, you try them out. If
they do not work, then on to another brand or type.
If you go out and need tweeking of something with
your aids, then the audi will do so. I have even
heard that if needed, the audi will go out to
different places to help with the hearing aid
equipment fitting and tweeking. <br>
When I was looking into going to HKNC, I talked to
several people to see what their experience was. I
found a few bad experiences, but mostly I found good
ones. <br>
I have heard that people get frustrated with the
long process of fitting and tweeking aids, but its
well worth it. <br>
Its awesome that you have goals, keep at DARS. <br>
Getting into HKNC takes a long time as they have a
huge waiting list. I know of several others who are
waiting to get into too. I have been waiting 3
months myself, and this is supposedly a short wait.
<br>
<br>
If you have other questions, please do ask... <br>
<br>
Marsha drenth <br>
Sent with my IPhone <br>
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On Nov 1, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Gene Richburg" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gene5402@austin.rr.com">gene5402@austin.rr.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> Hi, I heard that there are people on this list
who are at HKNC, I would like to know if anyone
knows how there system works in regards to getting
hearing aids? I hear that they have an awesome
audiologist, and they would be able to get the right
technologys together that will allow me to hear in
any environment. Now, my hearing loss is severe to
profound, I have a very severe to profound loss in
my left ear, with 25% hearing, then I believe in my
right ear, it?s just very severe, with only 15%
hearing left in that ear. What I?m wanting to know,
is how the process works, will they let me try aids
out before Dars makes a commitment? I am supposed
to be going to HKNC at some point, I just have to
get my I e p plan developed through Dars, then I
gotta get this New york state medical evaluation
form done, and do what ever that requires, and all
that, I?ll get there some day hopefully soon though,
and I can?t wait, cause like Heather said, this db
program here in austin tx sucks. For example, they
have made so many promices about what they were
gonna help me with, then broke them. Last year, I
took a business class, and they took notes for me,
and they said that when the training was in the
halfway period, they would go over the notes, and
make sure I understood them, then when the classes
wer all finished, we would go over all the notes,
well they decided that they didn?t wanna do that,
then after it was all over with, then they told me
that they couldn?t help me run the business, and I
said, I know you can?t help me do that, but you can
at leaste help me get the training and everything I
needed to get started, and they just kept repeating
them selves, so I just told them screw it for now,
then I got an opportunity to go to HKNC, and I?m
taking it, cause I want enough indipendents to not
have to depend on the db program for anything. If
anyone wants to hear of anything else the db program
didn?t do, I?ll tell you, I just don?t wanna go on
and on unless people wanna hear about it Lol.<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:31:42 -0400<br>
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Hi Gene.<br>
I currently work at HKNC. Carol is an awesome
audiologist, she is the<br>
one who set me up with the hearing aids I currently
use. I cannot say<br>
for certain, as I'm sure you are aware, how much
hearing aids will<br>
help you, it's a personal thing where your
experience may vary. Also,<br>
hearing aids will not allow you, for example, to
hear in loud<br>
environments under most circumstances. Yes, you can
try a pair out for<br>
a couple of weeks to see if you like it. However,
once you've decided<br>
on a pair, HKNC cannot provide you with funding to
get them. That<br>
would fall back onto Dars, who would hopefully be
inclined to include<br>
that as an amendment on your IPE. Do you have
contact with C C davis?<br>
I assume all this work is being done with him? And
so you are aware, I<br>
do work at HKNC, but don't post messages here in the
capacity of<br>
someone working here. I'm my own person, and tell
people both the<br>
positive and negative aspects of things here as I
see them. I was a<br>
student here in 2006.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
Scott<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On 11/1/13, Gene Richburg <<a
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> Hi, I heard that there are people on this list
who are at HKNC, I would like<br>
> to know if anyone knows how there system works
in regards to getting hearing<br>
> aids? I hear that they have an awesome
audiologist, and they would be able<br>
> to get the right technologys together that will
allow me to hear in any<br>
> environment. Now, my hearing loss is severe to
profound, I have a very<br>
> severe to profound loss in my left ear, with
25% hearing, then I believe in<br>
> my right ear, it?s just very severe, with only
15% hearing left in that ear.<br>
> What I?m wanting to know, is how the process
works, will they let me try<br>
> aids out before Dars makes a commitment? I am
supposed to be going to HKNC<br>
> at some point, I just have to get my I e p
plan developed through Dars,<br>
> then I gotta get this New york state medical
evaluation form done, and do<br>
> what ever that requires, and all that, I?ll get
there some day hopefully<br>
> soon though, and I can?t wait, cause like
Heather said, this db program here<br>
> in austin tx sucks. For example, they have
made so many promices about what<br>
> they were gonna help me with, then broke them.
Last year, I took a business<br>
> class, and they took notes for me, and they
said that when the training was<br>
> in the halfway period, they would go over the
notes, and make sure I<br>
> understood them, then when the classes wer all
finished, we would go over<br>
> all the notes, well they decided that they
didn?t wanna do that, then after<br>
> it was all over with, then they told me that
they couldn?t help me run the<br>
> business, and I said, I know you can?t help me
do that, but you can at<br>
> leaste help me get the training and everything
I needed to get started, and<br>
> they just kept repeating them selves, so I just
told them screw it for now,<br>
> then I got an opportunity to go to HKNC, and
I?m taking it, cause I want<br>
> enough indipendents to not have to depend on
the db program for anything.<br>
> If anyone wants to hear of anything else the db
program didn?t do, I?ll tell<br>
> you, I just don?t wanna go on and on unless
people wanna hear about it Lol.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 12:44:37 -0500<br>
From: "heather albright" <<a
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Yes, the only update is that he is still in the
nursing home because, he <br>
does not have a place to go that the court deems
safe! I think I was <br>
brushed off by the NFB of Texas, preparing for the
convention was more <br>
important than helping someone gain freedom out an
isolating place! <br>
National has not called back, like they said they
would do by today! I did <br>
not say drop everything, they could at least look in
to it here in Texas! <br>
But I am the only one trying to look in to this. I
sure do miss tommie's <br>
leadership when this type of stuff comes out!
Someone suggest to contact <br>
NAD do they have the dallas contact to this
organization because I live in <br>
Austin. I posted it on facebook on my wall and to a
deaf organization, no <br>
responses at all! I don't know if it is because he
is also blind or they <br>
cant do anything about it! Heather <br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:00:54 -0500<br>
From: "heather albright" <<a
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Has anyone thought about a how to video for
signing. They can have audio to <br>
tell you how to make the signs. Like at HKC!
Heather <br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:10:27 -0500<br>
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Subject: Re: [nfb-db] anyone on this list at honk?<br>
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Hi Marsha, yeah, oh don?t I ever know what a time
consuming pain it can be tweaking aids, I?ve
struggled for the last 3 years trying new aids only
to be disappointed, I?m sure others on this list
have experienced new aids where they sound like they
are turning everything down, then, when some one
talks to you they purp up just to let you either
miss the first few words they?ve said, or you get
the very last part of what was said. As far as I
know, all new aids do this, it?s a way, in my
opinion for the companies to show off there fancy,
and deaf blind people are not the only ones that are
frustrated with new aids either. According to this
therapist I saw, she said that even sighted people
are frustrated, so that tells me, that just because
all the hearing specialists, and audiologists say
that most people prefer the aids to cut down all the
noise in there environment is obviously not entirely
true. I can?t even begin to tell you how many times
I?ve had to go back for adjustments to some Siemens
aids I have, I can?t even use them, because there no
longer strong enough for my loss, I?ve had to go
back to my resound aids from 2006, and I?m concerned
that they might not hold up until I can get them
replaced, the multi directional microphone in the
right one has gone out, and the feedback calibration
feature is failing, so now I can?t put the phone up
to my ear with out them squealing, and I can?t hear
on a cell phone, so I just use the speaker on my
landline cordless phone for now, and aye know,
people who talk to people like us that have to use
the speaker phone just have to except that.<br>
<br>
From: Marsha Drenth <br>
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:24 PM<br>
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Subject: Re: [nfb-db] anyone on this list at hknc?<br>
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Gene,<br>
I am not yet at HKNC but will be starting my
training in 11days. I took a tour first before
deciding to do the training. If you can that would
be useful for you to see. DARS should pay for the
tour. <br>
Yes the audiologist is great. What I know is that
they will fit you for aids, you try them out. If
they do not work, then on to another brand or type.
If you go out and need tweeking of something with
your aids, then the audi will do so. I have even
heard that if needed, the audi will go out to
different places to help with the hearing aid
equipment fitting and tweeking. <br>
When I was looking into going to HKNC, I talked to
several people to see what their experience was. I
found a few bad experiences, but mostly I found good
ones. <br>
I have heard that people get frustrated with the
long process of fitting and tweeking aids, but its
well worth it. <br>
Its awesome that you have goals, keep at DARS. <br>
Getting into HKNC takes a long time as they have a
huge waiting list. I know of several others who are
waiting to get into too. I have been waiting 3
months myself, and this is supposedly a short wait.
<br>
<br>
If you have other questions, please do ask... <br>
<br>
Marsha drenth <br>
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On Nov 1, 2013, at 1:03 PM, "Gene Richburg" <<a
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wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi, I heard that there are people on this list who
are at HKNC, I would like to know if anyone knows
how there system works in regards to getting hearing
aids? I hear that they have an awesome audiologist,
and they would be able to get the right technologys
together that will allow me to hear in any
environment. Now, my hearing loss is severe to
profound, I have a very severe to profound loss in
my left ear, with 25% hearing, then I believe in my
right ear, it?s just very severe, with only 15%
hearing left in that ear. What I?m wanting to know,
is how the process works, will they let me try aids
out before Dars makes a commitment? I am supposed
to be going to HKNC at some point, I just have to
get my I e p plan developed through Dars, then I
gotta get this New york state medical evaluation
form done, and do what ever that requires, and all
that, I?ll get there some day hopefully soon though,
and I can?t wait, cause like Heather said, this db
program here in austin tx sucks. For example, they
have made so many promices about what they were
gonna help me with, then broke them. Last year, I
took a business class, and they took notes for me,
and they said that when the training was in the
halfway period, they would go over the notes, and
make sure I understood them, then when the classes
wer all finished, we would go over all the notes,
well they decided that they didn?t wanna do that,
then after it was all over with, then they told me
that they couldn?t help me run the business, and I
said, I know you can?t help me do that, but you can
at leaste help me get the training and everything I
needed to get started, and they just kept repeating
them selves, so I just told them screw it for now,
then I got an opportunity to go to HKNC, and I?m
taking it, cause I want enough indipendents to not
have to depend on the db program for anything. If
anyone wants to hear of anything else the db program
didn?t do, I?ll tell you, I just don?t wanna go on
and on unless people wanna hear about it Lol.<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:18:34 -0500<br>
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Hi Scott, no, actually I'm working with Christine
Chan, she is my dars case <br>
manager, she has a lot of experience under her belt,
she use to work with <br>
the deaf consumers back when we had the texas rehave
connition, trc, then I <br>
have Gail Ploman, who is the team leader of the db
apartment program that I <br>
live in. Cc Davis is in Dalas, and we have 2 or 3
db specialests here in <br>
austin, so things are probably just about as covered
as they can, if ya know <br>
what I mean! Yes, it is in my plan for dars to get
me aids, and that's one <br>
of the reasons I'm coming, I'm tired of putting up
with local specialests <br>
who want to know how to work with a db person, they
just don't know how, and <br>
some of them don't know all the ends and outs of
hearing aids. There <br>
telling me that my expectations are to high, but
what doesn't make since, is <br>
that I seem to hear better with older aids then I do
with new ones, like go <br>
figure.<br>
<br>
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From: Scott Davert<br>
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:31 PM<br>
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Hi Gene.<br>
I currently work at HKNC. Carol is an awesome
audiologist, she is the<br>
one who set me up with the hearing aids I currently
use. I cannot say<br>
for certain, as I'm sure you are aware, how much
hearing aids will<br>
help you, it's a personal thing where your
experience may vary. Also,<br>
hearing aids will not allow you, for example, to
hear in loud<br>
environments under most circumstances. Yes, you can
try a pair out for<br>
a couple of weeks to see if you like it. However,
once you've decided<br>
on a pair, HKNC cannot provide you with funding to
get them. That<br>
would fall back onto Dars, who would hopefully be
inclined to include<br>
that as an amendment on your IPE. Do you have
contact with C C davis?<br>
I assume all this work is being done with him? And
so you are aware, I<br>
do work at HKNC, but don't post messages here in the
capacity of<br>
someone working here. I'm my own person, and tell
people both the<br>
positive and negative aspects of things here as I
see them. I was a<br>
student here in 2006.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
Scott<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On 11/1/13, Gene Richburg <<a
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> Hi, I heard that there are people on this list
who are at HKNC, I would <br>
> like<br>
> to know if anyone knows how there system works
in regards to getting <br>
> hearing<br>
> aids? I hear that they have an awesome
audiologist, and they would be <br>
> able<br>
> to get the right technologys together that will
allow me to hear in any<br>
> environment. Now, my hearing loss is severe to
profound, I have a very<br>
> severe to profound loss in my left ear, with
25% hearing, then I believe <br>
> in<br>
> my right ear, it?s just very severe, with only
15% hearing left in that <br>
> ear.<br>
> What I?m wanting to know, is how the process
works, will they let me try<br>
> aids out before Dars makes a commitment? I am
supposed to be going to <br>
> HKNC<br>
> at some point, I just have to get my I e p
plan developed through Dars,<br>
> then I gotta get this New york state medical
evaluation form done, and do<br>
> what ever that requires, and all that, I?ll get
there some day hopefully<br>
> soon though, and I can?t wait, cause like
Heather said, this db program <br>
> here<br>
> in austin tx sucks. For example, they have
made so many promices about <br>
> what<br>
> they were gonna help me with, then broke them.
Last year, I took a <br>
> business<br>
> class, and they took notes for me, and they
said that when the training <br>
> was<br>
> in the halfway period, they would go over the
notes, and make sure I<br>
> understood them, then when the classes wer all
finished, we would go over<br>
> all the notes, well they decided that they
didn?t wanna do that, then <br>
> after<br>
> it was all over with, then they told me that
they couldn?t help me run the<br>
> business, and I said, I know you can?t help me
do that, but you can at<br>
> leaste help me get the training and everything
I needed to get started, <br>
> and<br>
> they just kept repeating them selves, so I just
told them screw it for <br>
> now,<br>
> then I got an opportunity to go to HKNC, and
I?m taking it, cause I want<br>
> enough indipendents to not have to depend on
the db program for anything.<br>
> If anyone wants to hear of anything else the db
program didn?t do, I?ll <br>
> tell<br>
> you, I just don?t wanna go on and on unless
people wanna hear about it <br>
> Lol.<br>
<br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:32:00 -0400<br>
From: Patricia Hubschman <<a
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Thank you, Scott. YYou just answered my question -
where you do Outreach.<br>
I'm not sure what that is though.<br>
I'm seeing Carol H on Thursday to try a hearing aid
on my non ci ear. My<br>
CI audi wants to balance me out. <br>
I was told too that they don't help with funding,
but Carol said that<br>
sometimes the state will help out. <br>
<br>
<br>
Trish<br>
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Hi Gene.<br>
I currently work at HKNC. Carol is an awesome
audiologist, she is the one<br>
who set me up with the hearing aids I currently use.
I cannot say for<br>
certain, as I'm sure you are aware, how much hearing
aids will help you,<br>
it's a personal thing where your experience may
vary. Also, hearing aids<br>
will not allow you, for example, to hear in loud
environments under most<br>
circumstances. Yes, you can try a pair out for a
couple of weeks to see if<br>
you like it. However, once you've decided on a pair,
HKNC cannot provide you<br>
with funding to get them. That would fall back onto
Dars, who would<br>
hopefully be inclined to include that as an
amendment on your IPE. Do you<br>
have contact with C C davis?<br>
I assume all this work is being done with him? And
so you are aware, I do<br>
work at HKNC, but don't post messages here in the
capacity of someone<br>
working here. I'm my own person, and tell people
both the positive and<br>
negative aspects of things here as I see them. I was
a student here in 2006.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
Scott<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On 11/1/13, Gene Richburg <<a
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wrote:<br>
> Hi, I heard that there are people on this list
who are at HKNC, I <br>
> would like to know if anyone knows how there
system works in regards <br>
> to getting hearing aids? I hear that they have
an awesome <br>
> audiologist, and they would be able to get the
right technologys <br>
> together that will allow me to hear in any
environment. Now, my <br>
> hearing loss is severe to profound, I have a
very severe to profound <br>
> loss in my left ear, with 25% hearing, then I
believe in my right ear,<br>
it's just very severe, with only 15% hearing left in
that ear.<br>
> What I'm wanting to know, is how the process
works, will they let me <br>
> try aids out before Dars makes a commitment? I
am supposed to be <br>
> going to HKNC at some point, I just have to get
my I e p plan <br>
> developed through Dars, then I gotta get this
New york state medical <br>
> evaluation form done, and do what ever that
requires, and all that, <br>
> I'll get there some day hopefully soon though,
and I can't wait, cause <br>
> like Heather said, this db program here in
austin tx sucks. For <br>
> example, they have made so many promices about
what they were gonna <br>
> help me with, then broke them. Last year, I
took a business class, <br>
> and they took notes for me, and they said that
when the training was <br>
> in the halfway period, they would go over the
notes, and make sure I <br>
> understood them, then when the classes wer all
finished, we would go <br>
> over all the notes, well they decided that they
didn't wanna do that, <br>
> then after it was all over with, then they told
me that they couldn't <br>
> help me run the business, and I said, I know
you can't help me do <br>
> that, but you can at leaste help me get the
training and everything I <br>
> needed to get started, and they just kept
repeating them selves, so I <br>
> just told them screw it for now, then I got an
opportunity to go to HKNC,<br>
and I'm taking it, cause I want enough indipendents
to not have to depend on<br>
the db program for anything.<br>
> If anyone wants to hear of anything else the db
program didn't do, <br>
> I'll tell you, I just don't wanna go on and on
unless people wanna hear<br>
about it Lol.<br>
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Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:38:05 -0400<br>
From: Scott Davert <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Hi Gene.<br>
Actually, it makes perfect sense that you can hear
better with older hearing aids. The digital side of
things is very different from that of the older
analogue side of things. Until your ears get used to
thesound of the digital processing, you will
struggle with digital hearing aids. It's interesting
that your preference is also Resound. I also always
liked the analogue sound best, and resound is what I
prefer. I've tried Seamons, Phonak, and a couple of
others, but they just didn't do it for me. Other
people sware by each of these brands, but I love the
Resound hearing aids.<br>
I wish you theest of luck getting your paper work
completed and hope to meet you at some point. <br>
<br>
Scott<br>
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On Nov 1, 2013, at 2:18 PM, "Gene Richburg" <<a
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wrote:<br>
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> Hi Scott, no, actually I'm working with
Christine Chan, she is my dars case manager, she has
a lot of experience under her belt, she use to work
with the deaf consumers back when we had the texas
rehave connition, trc, then I have Gail Ploman, who
is the team leader of the db apartment program that
I live in. Cc Davis is in Dalas, and we have 2 or 3
db specialests here in austin, so things are
probably just about as covered as they can, if ya
know what I mean! Yes, it is in my plan for dars to
get me aids, and that's one of the reasons I'm
coming, I'm tired of putting up with local
specialests who want to know how to work with a db
person, they just don't know how, and some of them
don't know all the ends and outs of hearing aids.
There telling me that my expectations are to high,
but what doesn't make since, is that I seem to hear
better with older aids then I do with new ones, like
go figure.<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Davert<br>
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 12:31 PM<br>
> To: NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List<br>
> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] anyone on this list at
hknc?<br>
> <br>
> Hi Gene.<br>
> I currently work at HKNC. Carol is an awesome
audiologist, she is the<br>
> one who set me up with the hearing aids I
currently use. I cannot say<br>
> for certain, as I'm sure you are aware, how
much hearing aids will<br>
> help you, it's a personal thing where your
experience may vary. Also,<br>
> hearing aids will not allow you, for example,
to hear in loud<br>
> environments under most circumstances. Yes, you
can try a pair out for<br>
> a couple of weeks to see if you like it.
However, once you've decided<br>
> on a pair, HKNC cannot provide you with funding
to get them. That<br>
> would fall back onto Dars, who would hopefully
be inclined to include<br>
> that as an amendment on your IPE. Do you have
contact with C C davis?<br>
> I assume all this work is being done with him?
And so you are aware, I<br>
> do work at HKNC, but don't post messages here
in the capacity of<br>
> someone working here. I'm my own person, and
tell people both the<br>
> positive and negative aspects of things here as
I see them. I was a<br>
> student here in 2006.<br>
> <br>
> Hope this helps,<br>
> Scott<br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
> On 11/1/13, Gene Richburg <<a
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wrote:<br>
>> Hi, I heard that there are people on this
list who are at HKNC, I would like<br>
>> to know if anyone knows how there system
works in regards to getting hearing<br>
>> aids? I hear that they have an awesome
audiologist, and they would be able<br>
>> to get the right technologys together that
will allow me to hear in any<br>
>> environment. Now, my hearing loss is
severe to profound, I have a very<br>
>> severe to profound loss in my left ear,
with 25% hearing, then I believe in<br>
>> my right ear, it?s just very severe, with
only 15% hearing left in that ear.<br>
>> What I?m wanting to know, is how the
process works, will they let me try<br>
>> aids out before Dars makes a commitment? I
am supposed to be going to HKNC<br>
>> at some point, I just have to get my I e p
plan developed through Dars,<br>
>> then I gotta get this New york state
medical evaluation form done, and do<br>
>> what ever that requires, and all that, I?ll
get there some day hopefully<br>
>> soon though, and I can?t wait, cause like
Heather said, this db program here<br>
>> in austin tx sucks. For example, they have
made so many promices about what<br>
>> they were gonna help me with, then broke
them. Last year, I took a business<br>
>> class, and they took notes for me, and they
said that when the training was<br>
>> in the halfway period, they would go over
the notes, and make sure I<br>
>> understood them, then when the classes wer
all finished, we would go over<br>
>> all the notes, well they decided that they
didn?t wanna do that, then after<br>
>> it was all over with, then they told me
that they couldn?t help me run the<br>
>> business, and I said, I know you can?t help
me do that, but you can at<br>
>> leaste help me get the training and
everything I needed to get started, and<br>
>> they just kept repeating them selves, so I
just told them screw it for now,<br>
>> then I got an opportunity to go to HKNC,
and I?m taking it, cause I want<br>
>> enough indipendents to not have to depend
on the db program for anything.<br>
>> If anyone wants to hear of anything else
the db program didn?t do, I?ll tell<br>
>> you, I just don?t wanna go on and on unless
people wanna hear about it Lol.<br>
> <br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 01:28:22 -0600<br>
From: Sheila Leigland <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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hi I understand that we are screened and posibly
have our hands checked <br>
for materials and explosive making items if we have
medical devices. <br>
Does this include hearing aides andd fm systems? I
will be flying to <br>
Baltimore with a small deligation from Montana for
Maryland's convention <br>
so was wondering what would be involved in getting
through airport <br>
security. thanks in advance.<br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 07:56:41 -0400<br>
From: April Brown <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: [nfb-db] Trying to use the computer with
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Following advice, I've tried to learn to use a
computer with just a<br>
keyboard. I don't get it. I can't open or close
anything. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
With the trial JAWs program, I tried to use both
Firefox and Safari with<br>
just the keyboard. I had the 11 page keyboard guide
open. And none of the<br>
commands worked on either browser. They worked in
Word and PDF.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I have no idea what "key" I am missing. I am sure
it is some silly<br>
something that I'm supposed to toggle on or off to
do it, and everyone else<br>
in the world knows how without being told.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
So far, the biggest problem I can see with JAWs,
other than not being able<br>
to configure it for the browsers, is the volume.
With my massive hearing<br>
loss as well, and the volume at 100%, it sounds like
a whisper. Is it worth<br>
my time to learn this program, if I can't hear the
speakers? My hearing and<br>
comprehension is rapidly decreasing. I'm going to
ask on the deaf blind<br>
group what they use. <br>
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