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<DIV>Hey Keitei, if you are duel sensory your state vocational rehab should have
aloud you to go somewhere for this ASL for independence training. It seems
it should have been a part of your goals to be independent before you went to
college. </DIV>
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<DIV>Blessings</DIV>
<DIV>Cheri Fields</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 1/29/2014 11:57:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
kekiangeles111@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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face=Arial>Hello,<BR><BR>I remember taking ASL in high school and this class
was concurrent enrolment in one of the universities in my area. When I was in
that class, I asked if one of the teaching assistants could help me.we would
often sit to the side with the teaching assistant tactually signing to me what
the professor was signing. I found that to be very helpful. Also, once I
learned enough vocabulary, I could ask in class what facial expressions should
look like. Typically, before class, I would go to the professor to talk to her
about some of the things that I had difficulty with. Now, I am in university
and am in my school's ASL Club.<BR><BR>Since I have joined the club, I know a
few people that I can ask to help me when we are doing activities. Since I
cannot see what most people are signing, I have a couple people that I can
rely on to tell me what others are signing so I can participate as well. When
other members of the ASL Club want to talk with me, they come up to me and
either stand close enough for me to see most of what they are signing or they
will tactually sign to me. I would recommend finding a couple people that can
help you and work with the instructor.<BR><BR>Best,<BR><BR>Keitei
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(heather albright)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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<BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:50:17 -0800<BR>>
From: maurice mines <kd0iko@icloud.com><BR>> To: NFB Deaf-Blind
Division Mailing List <nfb-db@nfbnet.org><BR>> Subject: [nfb-db] A
question about learning ASL?<BR>> Message-ID:
<1A3E10B3-8B70-43BA-93D7-EE3AD5A69824@icloud.com><BR>> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=windows-1252<BR>> <BR>> Dear list members, I have a
question I am enrolled in Munich celebrated ESL course, and a question has
come up amongst the interpreters and myself. How much personal space between
the interpreter and myself is appropriate? The reason why this is coming up is
because I am of course new at learning ASL, but I?m also used to keeping an
area of personal space around myself. Is there any clear dues, and or don?ts?
In regards to tactile sign language? Since we?re now learning about gender
sign and some of those signs if one is trying to actually feel what it?s been
signed certainly invades what becomes it or once personal space, are there any
good suggestions?<BR>> <BR>> In a completely separate issue is due most
of you prefer finger spelling? Or just straight ASL? Also since many of us
certainly don?t see it okay to make it? Sign as opposed to raising one?s
eyebrows and moving one had the probably is no good way for us to see that?
Since this is probably not the first email that I?m going to spend with
questions about learning ASL would it be advisable to take this discussion off
list?<BR>> <BR>> While in the process of writing this I thought of one
more question, I believe that going to community events is on my syllabus are
there any do?s and don?ts regarding depth lines than this all?<BR>>
<BR>> My last question is somewhat in the area of our proposed teach act?
When trying to figure out how to deal with sign language illustrations and
proper placement of said signs and other textbook based information, should we
be abdicating for accessible AFL study materials, because from the way I?m
beginning to figure this out it seems that each institution does for oneself
what is appropriate? Is this the reality around the country? Also has Helen
Keller done anything in this area? And last but certainly not least
asHknc, done anything in the area of accessible ASL study materials?
Don?t want to include my official signature file in the<BR>> <BR>>
Sincerely Maurice Mines Student accessibility aid. Voicemail phone
360-524-0791. School/work email address, Maurice.mines@pcc.edu.<BR>>
<BR>> I?d like to thank anyone who would like to answer my questions and
help me out with all of this in advance. Have a great evening?<BR>>
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2<BR>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 23:14:10 -0600<BR>> From: "heather
albright" <kd5cbl@gmail.com><BR>> To: "NFB Deaf-Blind Division
Mailing List" <nfb-db@nfbnet.org><BR>> Subject: Re: [nfb-db] A
question about learning ASL?<BR>> Message-ID:
<594C5644C8784E2BBED5126445C04EC6@supersystem><BR>> Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<BR>> <BR>> Well, I took ASL and had
to drop it for personal reasons! But the space is <BR>> so your sign
interpreters are close enough to communicate with you! It is <BR>>
harder the further away you are! I did not get much help in my classes,
<BR>> more help was from this list, thank you! Thinker spelling is
not ASL so you <BR>> will have to learn the signs eventually in order to
speak to someone who is <BR>> using ASL. There is no Braille or audio
materials that one can use to learn <BR>> ASL, unless someone has come up
with them in the past 3 months! I gather <BR>> you cant speak in the
class to ask what that person signed and you have to <BR>> do it outside of
class! The braille book store has a list of everyday signs <BR>> but
get this, it is not in braille; the braille book store not having <BR>>
something in braille! And the ASL books in braille from the NLS did
nothing <BR>> to teach you because, the print pages with the signs were
"omitted" from the <BR>> braille pages. So why braille a book on
learning ASL signs if you are not <BR>> to going to tell you how to make
the signs. Also, Learning Ally's readers <BR>> chose not to enlighten
us "blind" readers on how to make the signs , even <BR>> though the book
said "a guide to learning ASL" OR "THE DICTIONARY TO ASL" <BR>>
ETC. So half of the book is omitted! HKC as far as I know does not
have <BR>> braille materials outside of the center and I don't know about
within the <BR>> center! I think perkins or Hadley has on sight
classes but, the rest of the <BR>> blind don't always live near these
places. I find, just my oppinion, the <BR>> regular deaf population
does not have pacients enough to sit to help someone <BR>> who cant see the
signs in class. Not all are like this but, there were 20 <BR>>
students taken ASL here in austin and only 1 is still taking it and they are
<BR>> failing for the second time because there is no support! I
would try to <BR>> make sure you have a good support system at your school
that, can work with <BR>> you in the class, in the labs and is willing to
work with you in the deaf <BR>> community! I would also recommend you
to take the 3 times a week instead of <BR>> the twice or once a week!
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