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    Hi Wolf,<br>
    They are starting to take notice but it is still a struggle.  We
    have been trying to change the way the National provides listening
    devices for people at the National Convention.  Arlene and Joe
    Naulty had decided to purchase neck loops to augment the FM system
    that the Federation provides and that most of us in the DB Division
    had not had positive experiences with last year.  Talks are underway
    with National to try to improve this years communication system.  <br>
    <br>
    Everyone needed needed to make their accommodation requests by the
    end of March to the Jernigan Institute.<br>
    Janice<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/2014 7:49 PM, Shadow Wolf
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      Hey Janice,<br>
      I don't know much about the mainstream NFB. But I've heard
      somewhere that they have not paid much attention to the needs of
      the DB divisional members. But given to the growing and expanding
      DB community. They should start paying heed to the advocacy of the
      DB community. Many DBs are quite intelligent, and our intelligence
      is often underestimated by both the greater blind population and
      the deaf population. I think the DB will come out as a stronger
      group. Because of our combined disabilities and efforts to be
      heard. <br>
      <br>
      --S.W. <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/2014 3:56 PM, Janice Toothman
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        Hi Trish,<br>
        That is why we have Operation Outreach. To try and open the eye
        and ears of the people of the NFB and other interested people to
        let them know that they have Deaf-Blind who want accommodations
        at Conventions as well as the force of the Federation to help us
        change legislation concerning the Deaf-Blind. <br>
        Janice<br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/20/2014 7:47 AM, Trish
          Hubschman wrote:<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’;I’ve


                been with the NFB  since 1998 and I had no idea there
                was a DB division until you told me a few months ago.  I
                thought NFB was just blind and I voiced my gripes to my
                chapter  many times.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    nfb-db [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Janice Toothman<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:43 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [nfb-db] About This Group List<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Cheri,<br>
              The NFB-DB list  has been around for years.  It serves the
              DB of the Federation and those with combined hearing and
              vision loss.  The Division has a web-site as well.  It is
              nothing fancy.  I have not looked at it in a while so I
              would need to find the web address and then I will post it
              for everyone.<br>
              Janice<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On 3/19/2014 7:53 PM, <a
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                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    Shadow,</span><span
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                    understanding is that it started out to help those
                    of us who had both hearing and vision loss to ask us
                    how we voted and we all gave our responses as to
                    what would help us to be able to vote in elections. 
                    When that was finished this board was to let others
                    ask questions and give responses.  I hope this helps
                    you.  I was somewhat complexed at first and then I
                    just jumped in and answered someones questions or
                    said hello to new members.</span><span
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                    Fields</span><span
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                      a message dated 3/19/2014 10:01:19 A.M. Pacific
                      Daylight Time, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:soulalibi@gmail.com">soulalibi@gmail.com</a>
                      writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                      for the clarification. Looking forward to some
                      interesting <br>
                      discussions in this forum.<br>
                      <br>
                      On 3/19/2014 6:35 AM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:<br>
                      >  This list is mainly talk about deafblind,
                      people who have both, <br>
                      > hearing and vission impairments. For instance
                      I start talking about <br>
                      > let's say hearing aids, and others chime in
                      by replying to my EMail.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > El 19/03/2014 06:58 a.m., Shadow Wolf
                      escribió:<br>
                      >> Hello Lisa or David,<br>
                      >> I first sent an email to Lisa Hall, but
                      unfortunately her email <br>
                      >> address as provided in this group
                      information page, did not go through.<br>
                      >> I just joined the NFB-DB list yesterday.
                      But I am not familiar with <br>
                      >> how this list works. I am getting
                      occasional emails from individuals <br>
                      >> where I have no clue what the topic of
                      discussion is about. Or from <br>
                      >> someone in response to someone else's
                      comment as part of a broader <br>
                      >> discussion. Perhaps from before I joined.
                      I haven't posted anything <br>
                      >> yet. Until I fully understand how the
                      list works. Any helpful <br>
                      >> suggestions?<br>
                      >><br>
                      >> Thanks,<br>
                      >><br>
                      ><br>
                      <br>
                      -- <br>
                      *~Shadow Wolf~*<br>
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