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<DIV>well, I will start on Saturday hopefully at the deaf blind chat! All
though, I feel rather ignored by the helpers and most of the folks just sit
there for an hour being ignored while the staffe talks amongst themselves! I
would not think starbucks would be an ideal location, it is noisy as heck and so
all the ones who can here with their aids, won't be able to really
communicate! I think it is more a staffe outing than an outing to
connect the DB community! So any Austin folks, what do you say! I know there are
a few on this list! Heather </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=marsha.drenth@gmail.com
href="mailto:marsha.drenth@gmail.com">marsha.drenth@gmail.com</A> ; <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=scottdavert@gmail.com
href="mailto:scottdavert@gmail.com">scottdavert@gmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 04, 2014 5:16
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<DIV>Heather, I completely agree with Marsha. Not everyone wants to take
the reigns and be in control of managing to start a committee or much less a
division. It is not only a lot of work and time, but you are at the
mercy of an affiliate board that may or may not want a DB division.
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<DIV>If not the NFB then where will you find information and support for those
who are both visually and hearing challenged. Making connections with
others who have similar disabilities is how you find out what is out there
that will help you and others like yourself. </DIV>
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<DIV>We are with you no matter what you decide. </DIV>
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<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheri Fields</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/4/2014 9:27:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
marsha.drenth@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>Heather, </DIV>
<DIV>If after you think about what you would like to do, and you decide that
your not the person to head up this movement in Texas, none of us wil fault
you. It takes alot of work, alot of passion, alot of sweat and tears. And
yes you will be let down, more than once, more than twice, probably several
times. I understand the let down and the disappointment. But that is where
you should separate, although not easy, and althought not everyone can do
that, separate your disappointed feelings, your let down feeling,s and do
what you have to do, push through for the deafblind. I am not trying to be
insensitive, because your feelings are completely valid. We just some times
come up to barriers, we find ways aroujnd those barriers and push on. If
there is a will, there is a way! atleast that is the motto I
use. </DIV>
<DIV>Like I said, if your not that person to form the DB division in Texas,
no one will fault you, but find and point the other person in the right
direction, in what should be done. </DIV>
<DIV>If I lived in Texas still, I would be helping you all down
there. </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>Marsha drenth
<DIV>email: <A title=mailto:marsha.drenth@gmail.com
href="mailto:marsha.drenth@gmail.com">marsha.drenth@gmail.com</A>
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<DIV><BR>On Nov 3, 2014, at 11:28 PM, heather albright via nfb-db <<A
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I will think about it! I will mention
this to my friends as well! It should be so simple but, I have
experienced several let downs over the past ten years to know that this is
not always the case; at least here in Texas! Heather</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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8:58 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>" As I'm here considering an effort to form a DB division in
CO, I've come up with some aditional things to think about. First, some
drama, no matter how much you wish to avoid it will happen at some
point. It's just how things are unfortunately. Secona and more
important, is that it's not just how many people you have who are
interested that matters. You need a few strong and reliable leaders. For
example, at the very least, you will need 4, preferably at least 5,
people who are reliable and can stay on task. These people are the
president,VP, treasurer, secretery, and at least 1 board member. My
issue is finding those particular 5 people who saem trustworthy and who
also have an active interest in NFB. Not that I would want to discourage
anyone from setting up a state DB devision, but it's totall
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<DIV><BR>On Nov 3, 2014, at 8:56 PM, Cheri via nfb-db <<A
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<DIV>Heather, Marsha and Janice are right. You don't need a
chapter. But you do need people who are DB or will work to help
the DB. In the Fl. nfb db constitution only the president and
vice of the division have to be deaf blind. I believe
we do have to pay dues to the state affiliate if we are not in a
chapter. The DB division gets to write their own bi-laws.
We have some members on our division who are not disabled. Just
get interested people together and your deaf blind friends.</DIV>
<DIV>Blessings,</DIV>
<DIV>Cheri Fields</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/3/2014 1:02:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
<A title=mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org
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face=Arial>Hi Heather,<BR>I agree with Marsha. If you speak to
the State Affiliate President and inform him/her that you are
interested in forming a DB committee with the hope of becoming a DB
division and would like their support or someone you could
communicate with from their office. <BR><BR>Once your group
has stepped up to the plate and made it known-possibly at this
upcoming convention; then other interested DB people may contact
you.<BR>Janice<BR>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 11/3/2014 9:29 AM, Marsha Drenth via
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<DIV>Heather,</DIV>
<DIV>The point of contact person, would be the person who would
head up the effort to form the db group within your state. This DB
group does not have anything to do with any chapter, but is dealt
with by the state affiliate people, like the president and the
board. Granted if there is drama on the state level, that is a
whole another conversation. You should talk directly with your
stat president, not the chapter one. If you want a DB group, get
all the DB people together, aside from the chapter, talk about
what needs to be done, and do it. Of course depending on your
state constitution, depends on if you need to pay dues to a
chapter or can pay those same dues through a state affiliate
division, of course something that can be worked out later or
figured out later. Its fairly easy, it just needs someone who is
willing to be the leader. Like I said forget about the chapter,
forget about the drama, worry about the DB people. Talk with your
state president, although at this point you might want to wait, as
I know your state convention is coming up. And the president and
or state board positions might change. If there are 10 Deafblind
people, in the austin area who are interested in a deafblind nfb
state affiliate division, you have the people, you just need the
lead person, and people who would like to get involved. Don't wait
for the state president or board to approach you, you approach
them, someone approach them. People do not know the issues until
we, deafblind people, bring it to their eyes, no pun intended. If
there are 10 deafblind persons in the austin area, imagine how
many other deafblind persons are around the state who need someone
to speak for them, who could use the information, who could use an
empathy ear, again no pun intended. This is not an Austin thing,
this is a Texas issue. Like I said forget the drama, do not even
go through the chapter, go right to the state
president. </DIV>
<DIV>Just my two cents, <BR><BR>Marsha drenth
<DIV>email: <A title=mailto:marsha.drenth@gmail.com
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moz-do-not-send="true">marsha.drenth@gmail.com</A>
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<DIV><BR>On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:28 AM, heather albright via nfb-db
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Yes I am kind of a member of the
Austin chapter! But it has problems and I did not want to
be caught up with them! Our deaf blind devision here is lacking
to say the lease! I asked a couple of friends if they
would be a contact. But like me they don't want to be part
of the drama here! I think at least ten of us are here at least
who are are db or want to work in that field in Austin! If we
could form our own chapter, maybe! But, than that would
require us to be involved in some other sorted drama; by the
current NFB chapter! Heather </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>Heather, I don't know the answer to your
question, but do you live in Texas? I'm wondering if we
have a DB contact in Texas. re you a member of the
NFB? Do you have a home chapter? Who is your Texas
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