<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>My parents weren't big on placing obstacles; but they were unusual.  I can understand it could be a problem, though. I pretty much ignore any of my other family members who try it; easy enough to do, since they're mostly about 1,000 miles away. This flyer does seem to be a little too "family" oriented, in my opinion.  Lydia Roth  <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jun 17, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Jack Zimmerman via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Well now Janice and the rest of yall"....  I happen to totally Agree with those personal views! As a deaf blind person I  have had more trouble with my own family placing   obstacles in my  path  than I have any one  single other thing.  Just sayin!</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Jack and Bex<div>Sent from our  iPhone</div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;"><a href="mailto:Jackzip65@gmail.com">Jackzip65@gmail.com</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;"> </span><div><br></div></div></div><div><br>On Jun 17, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Janice Toothman via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    It bothers me as well.  I want the DeafBlind to advocate for
    themselves and often family members are those that impose barriers
    to communication and the DeafBlind individuals pursuit of
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        directed towards families of DB without even lip service to
        including DB people and they being involved in directing and
        leading this kind of activity? I know some family are good
        allies and some DB people are small children, but the whole tone
        of this and even the website is not even inclusive of DB people
        themselves. All directed towards families and professionals. It
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        On Jun 17, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Catherine Miller via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" moz-do-not-send="true">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>>
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            <div><b>From:</b> Catherine Miller <<a href="mailto:guillcat@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">guillcat@gmail.com</a>><br>
              <b>Date:</b> June 17, 2017 at 9:23:17 AM CDT<br>
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              <b>Subject:</b> <b>Flyer F2F Conferences 2017-18</b><br>
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