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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/18/2017 1:03 PM, maurice mines via
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      Good afternoon everyone, Mme. second vice president, I can’t agree
      with you more. Without going into it let’s just say that I have
      not in the past and I’m certainly not now a fan of the
      professionals running a duck blind person’s life. As you said
      Janice it’s up to us to run our lives, I guess this really does
      strike at the heart of Vienna the model live the life we want. But
      more than just quote a me to post, I hope when we gather we talk
      about strategies to say to the professionals politely, but firmly,
      that we should live the life we want. Because I think that is a
      skill? That does not have a one-size-fits-all answer. I am a
      computer person so live a very hard time dealing with quote
      professionals on quote because sometimes I just wonder if they
      deal with me as a person, or do they deal with me the way their
      textbook said? Or deal with me in some way that some government
      regulation says they are supposed to deal with me?
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      <div class="">Also it seems to me that some of what the
        professional does, is based on what the professional bay  Thanks
        about those whom they are serving/working with. Let me finish my
        thought this way, if the person involved I stated they want XYZ
        for instance but the professionals says MY inexorably is best
        for you, who carries the day? Here’s hoping we work on talking
        about the empowerment piece of it? And not so much what the
        professionals think, and/or do. I guess because I’ve experienced
        way too much social worker textbook based professionalism
        lately. But let me also state for the record here, not all
        social work folks are all bad, all the time either. They have to
        deal with a very wide variety of people so blindly blasting them
        is also not a good thing either because I’ve seen it too often
        at times and Federation gatherings that I have been out. I think
        it’s been said at one point with great collective action/power,
        should also comes great responsibility of knowing when, and
        where to pick one’s battles. I can attribute that piece of
        advice to one of my past and probably at times probably current
        Federation mentors in a sense, through the statement I just
        made. More to the point the statement that I just repeated from
        Diane McGeorge. I just say he was definitely the teacher, I am
        at the times she’d mentioned this to me I was definitely the
        student. Yes her lesson has come home to roost many times over.
        So as we talk at convention about all of these things it’s
        probably helpful for us to really stop and think about that when
        we all get going. Because we probably have quite a few stories
        about situations like this. How many solutions do we really
        have, and does one so answe hour selves., And many different
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      <div class="">Sincerely Maurice Mines.</div>
      <div class="">note my comments above have been dictated to the
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      <div class=""> My amateur radio call sign is, kd0iko.</div>
      <div class=""> PS just so that current low listers know ,  I am
         currently attending the Helen Keller national Center. So
        hopefully by comments I received well see you all in Orlando.</div>
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      <div class="">ution really fit every case correctly? The most part
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                It bothers me as well.  I want the DeafBlind to advocate
                for themselves and often family members are those that
                impose barriers to communication and the DeafBlind
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/17/2017 12:40 PM, Lisa
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                  <div class="">Does it bother anyone else that this
                    flyer is so totally directed towards families of DB
                    without even lip service to including DB people and
                    they being involved in directing and leading this
                    kind of activity? I know some family are good allies
                    and some DB people are small children, but the whole
                    tone of this and even the website is not even
                    inclusive of DB people themselves. All directed
                    towards families and professionals. It makes me
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                          <b class="">Date:</b> June 17, 2017 at 9:23:17
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