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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hey Scott!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I accept your challenge in teaching the HOH PTASL. A few things:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>PTASL is not PT and ASL combined.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>PTASL is not PT and TASL combined.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>PTASL is not Haptic and ASL combined.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>PTASL has its own language structure, apart from ASL. ASL is a visual language. PTASL is not but rather depend on touch as the primary senses without using hearing or sight. TASL is an adaption of ASL but it does not give the DB full access to the language and environmental information needed for true effective communication. There are some common trait between ASL, TASL and PTASL What set PTASL apart is PTASL can give us full access to the language, communication and visual information needed through touch or some called tactilely. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Want to know more? Just ask.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Randy Pope<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NFB-DB [mailto:nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Davert via NFB-DB<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 24, 2018 7:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List<br><b>Cc:</b> Scott Davert<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-DB] Family Resources for Learning ASL<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I'd like to see them try to work with someone who is HOH, but I highly doubt they could unless that individual already knows ASL. As such, I'm not sure this would be an appropriate recommendation for this situation.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just my thought,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Apr 23, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Lisa Ferris via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Check out Tactile Communications at <a href="https://www.tactilecommunications.org/">https://www.tactilecommunications.org/</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>It is ASL based, but uses other tactile cues for Deafblind people. This organization is run by Deafblind leadership. They know what they are doing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good luck! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Lisa Ferris<o:p></o:p></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Apr 23, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Janice Toothman via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Eric,<br><br>my name is Janice Toothman. I have Usher's. It developed later in life. I am totally blind. I use tactile sign. I fingerspell and use Print on Palm at present, mostly because I don't have ready access to the resources you are seeking for your son. I have not found a local place to in my state to teach me Tactile ASL even though I live 20 miles from Washington, DC ( home of Gallaudett University or Gally as it is affectionately called). I couldn't afford to pay the 50 dollars an hour for a private tutor of one of their professors. Although I have a VR counselor, they don't see it as a hight priority for me even though I am profoundly deaf and am contemplating a CI. <br><br>I am not sure if your earlier post said what state you live in. The American Association of the DeafBlind might know of individuals willing to teach ASL or Universitys that have Deaf studies. Again I am only thinking of people and interpreters/SSP (support Service Providers that might be willing to help get you started.<br><br>These are just my own thoughts as I have struggled personally with this myself.<br>Janice Toothman<br>Second Vice-President<br>National Association of the DeafBlind, A proud Division of the NFB<br>We care, We share, We grow , We make a Difference<br><br>Learning ASL would would be for you compared to you son. You son would <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 4/23/2018 11:58 AM, Eric V via NFB-DB wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif","serif"'>Good morning everyone.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif","serif"'>We had a nice discussion with Danielle over the weekend & while we are going to pursue looking into the CI’s further, we also want to be begin learning ASL. We’ll meet with our district’s DHH team, but beyond our sons, my wife & I obviously want to learn in parallel. Can you share resources & ideas on how to pursue learning ASL & how the process might be different for us given our son’s are totally blind, compared to sighted ASL communication?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif","serif"'>Thanks</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman ,serif","serif"'>Eric</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NFB-DB mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=69 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D3DEDF.518880D0" alt="Image removed by sender."></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=588 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#41424E'>Virus-free. <a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avg.com</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NFB-DB mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NFB-DB mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>