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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>AH, yes they are in Austin and I am in san Antonio. They have way more sight than I do; they use their canes when they feel like it and I use my cane all the time. I would be totally dead if I did not use my cane woe! They read large print and I can only read braille. They have large print books at home and they have large print not braille on their apliences. It was a total surprise when I came too visit and none of their stuff had braille on it! They do not use their displays only the ipad so do not know why they have them. I use my phone when I am out and I cant use VO when out, I will never here it. So I use for navigation, texting, checking mail, try to use for tv with if it has audio description. I read my books and especially use my voice dream app But now when I am out, I can not do all those things anymore.I also use to purchease items as I find it is easier to use the app for things. I wanted to try that knew braille text subscription caption thing that apple does. So all the subtitles can be read with the display as I cant hear the DVS anymore on my regular tv and I love the fact it will read all this with a braille display! But mr. will shell at the FCC did not know how far along this was only that apple was doing it! Now if only my regular tv would allow me to connect my display to have access that would be great. </p><p class=MsoNormal>I use the pc when home. I read and write on it as I fine that the iPhone can be challenging to do certain tasks. I do download the books to a drive and read it with my old trusty m-power. It only works plugged in but at least it still works woe; I think god for small favors everytime I turn it on. I want to justify that a note taker is a must when out. I have several doctors visits do to my ms and braille would be better for me. How does one take notes if they cant her VO on their phone? My mom and my neighbors do not like it when I am blasting jaws to read with my pc. I wanted a braille display for at home so I I do not git any noise complaints from the neighbors because of jaws. If you get three complaints, they will kick you out. I have seen them do it to several neighbors around me. My office wall is shared with the kids room to my next door neighbors. Above me is another kids room too! I did not know I was that loud to me it sounded normal. But, knock knock knock on the wall one scared me half the deaf and someone scream at me I was making to much noise. I know I do not have hearing aids as my hearing loss is do to lesions on the brain and they said they cant fix that one! Any ideas as to what I can say, this was the first time they came out and now I have to travel back to the light house next week. I am not looking forward to that one as it takes 4 hours to get back home. I get to look forward to an ms flare when I get back, it happens every time woe! I used to volunteer with the seniors. But, just could not handle the 4 hour trip back home from the lighthouse! Thanks, 73 kd5cbl Heather </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan <br>e-mail:<br>kd5cbl@gmail.com<br>sites:<br>National Federation of The Blind:<br>www.nfb.org<br>An Accessible Online Library:<br>www.bookshare.org</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">Scott Davert via NFB-DB</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:59 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:scottdavert@gmail.com">Scott Davert</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NFB-DB] I can connect items</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Heather.</p><p class=MsoNormal>Good to see another ham radio person on here. I'm not very active</p><p class=MsoNormal>these days, but get on some of the digital modes from time to time.</p><p class=MsoNormal>There are a lot of factors that can determine why 1 person gets one</p><p class=MsoNormal>type of technology and why other people get something else. Are the</p><p class=MsoNormal>sisters you are talking about in the same state as you are? Different</p><p class=MsoNormal>states have different policies. It could also be that their use case</p><p class=MsoNormal>is different from yours even if they live in the same state. With</p><p class=MsoNormal>little info to go on, I could speculate until the next AADB</p><p class=MsoNormal>conference, which as you probably know will be a loooong time from</p><p class=MsoNormal>now. Anyway, to answer your question, I have a few of my own.</p><p class=MsoNormal>1. Does your iPhone meet most of your needs with VoiceOver other than</p><p class=MsoNormal>the need to understand the speech itself?</p><p class=MsoNormal>2. What tasks are you not able to do on your PC that a notetaker can accomplish?</p><p class=MsoNormal>3. What do you feel you could do more effectively on the notetaker you</p><p class=MsoNormal>have than you could on either the PC or iPhone?</p><p class=MsoNormal>If you can do what you need on your PC and iPhone well, but the speech</p><p class=MsoNormal>is an issue, I would suggest looking more at a braille display, or</p><p class=MsoNormal>pair of braille displays. The reason I would give as to why you need 2</p><p class=MsoNormal>displays is that 40-cell braille displays are much easier and more</p><p class=MsoNormal>efficient for things like reading long emails, exploring larger</p><p class=MsoNormal>websites, etc. A smaller display that is 14-20 cells is more portable</p><p class=MsoNormal>and is good for texting and other things you would do on the go. If</p><p class=MsoNormal>your assessor says something like: "You can do all of those tasks on 1</p><p class=MsoNormal>display" I would argue that you could, but that would be like asking a</p><p class=MsoNormal>sighted person to lug around a laptop to respond to text messages and</p><p class=MsoNormal>make phone calls.</p><p class=MsoNormal>That said, depending on your state, their policies, and the amount of</p><p class=MsoNormal>money they have left in their budget, they may only be able to fund</p><p class=MsoNormal>one display. It could be that the sisters received their equipment</p><p class=MsoNormal>when there was more money, that they have different policies where</p><p class=MsoNormal>they live, or.... when is that conference again?...</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I hope this helps,</p><p class=MsoNormal>Scott kc8pnl/4</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On 1/17/19, Heather via NFB-DB <nfb-db@nfbnet.org> wrote:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Hello, I can connect came out today and they told me I had to choose between</p><p class=MsoNormal>> a braile note taker or a display. I am not sure why this is because my</p><p class=MsoNormal>> friend got both and her twin sister has both actually she got to notetakers</p><p class=MsoNormal>> from I can connect and an ipad pro. But now they tell me I have to choose</p><p class=MsoNormal>> which one I want. So I am looking for advice on which one is good with both</p><p class=MsoNormal>> the pc and a notetaker;</p><p class=MsoNormal>> I am using my old m-power that does not connect with anything it is about 14</p><p class=MsoNormal>> to 12 years old; cant remember which date I received it. I think it was in</p><p class=MsoNormal>> 2002 and they updated in 2006 or 08.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> I use my iPhone for almost everything and I use my windows desktop for the</p><p class=MsoNormal>> rest. So I guess this program is subjective, they give others a lot and</p><p class=MsoNormal>> other people have to choose the items and go with it!</p><p class=MsoNormal>> Thanks Heather</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> "Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan</p><p class=MsoNormal>> e-mail:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> kd5cbl@gmail.com</p><p class=MsoNormal>> sites:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> National Federation of The Blind:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> www.nfb.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>> An Accessible Online Library:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> www.bookshare.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>NFB-DB mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>