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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I am sorry that I don’t have a solution for this problem yet, but I think turning on audio ducking for VoiceOver is a start. Several others have offered solutions, and I encourage you to try them. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> NFB-DB <nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>heather Albright via NFB-DB<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 17, 2020 10:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <nfb-db@nfbnet.org><br><b>Cc:</b> heather Albright <kd5cbl@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-DB] Day 3<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>that does not work. It is to loud when people are talking at the same time! Thanks Heather </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> <a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" title="nfb-db@nfbnet.org">Scott Davert via NFB-DB</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" title="nfb-db@nfbnet.org">NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:scottdavert@gmail.com" title="scottdavert@gmail.com">Scott Davert</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Friday, July 17, 2020 7:44 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Re: [NFB-DB] Day 3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Chris. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would do what Gene suggested. Alternatively, you can turn on audio ducking so that VoiceOver will talk louder than Zoom. You can even use the 2 features in conjunction with each other if you feel that audio ducking makes VoiceOver's speech too loud. You can find this setting under Setts/Accessibility/VoiceOver/audio. Those are the best options I can think of. That said, someone may know of another solution I do not, as I am not a regular speech user. I wish my speech would never turn itself on actually. <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>☺️</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps it would be worth considering for the NFB-DB group to create a guide to Zoom for speech and braille users. There are a lot of resources out there, but they're not free or have a lot of information people may not need. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope this heps,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Scott<o:p></o:p></p><div id=AppleMailSignature><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jul 17, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Tai Tomasi via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks for these ideas. I myself don’t have a good solution, but if anyone finds helpful information, please share it here! Thanks, all! <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tai Tomasi, <span style='font-size:13.0pt'>J.D., M.P.A.</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Email: <a href="mailto:tai.tomasi8@gmail.com">tai.tomasi8@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt'>Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 17, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Gene Richburg via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> Hi, if you enable the voiceover volume option in the roter settings, then that option will be available and then you can raise the volume for vo by turning the roter to the volume option and flicking up and down to get it adjusted for zoom, and then when you close zoom, I think it will go back to what it was outside of zoom. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #C7E5FF 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>----- Original Message -----</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Chris Westbrook via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Reply-To:</b> NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>To:</b> NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Cc:</b> Chris Westbrook <<a href="mailto:westbchris@gmail.com">westbchris@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Sent:</b> 7/17/2020 1:37:00 PM<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-DB] Day 3<o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#CCCCCC' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I think the voice over volume with zoom is a zoom issue. I have decent hearing through my cochlear implant and I noticed voice over is very low compared to the zoom volume.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:58 AM, Ineko Gary via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes my guide dog Frisco is doing good They gave Frisco a bath, cut his nails, they gave him a shot for his itching, they gave him his three month pill, and they check his ears and teeth for me, and he lost 2 pounds which is good. They told me Frisco is looking good. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for asking about my guide dog Frisco<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love Always <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ineko Gary <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 17, 2020, at 10:28 AM, delcenia brown via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes it was difficult to use chat during the meeting. I had a hard time on my I Pad at the end to ask a question. Overall it was a great meeting! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Delcenia <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org">nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>heather Albright via NFB-DB<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 17, 2020 10:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tai Tomasi <<a href="mailto:tai.tomasi8@gmail.com">tai.tomasi8@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> heather Albright <<a href="mailto:kd5cbl@gmail.com">kd5cbl@gmail.com</a>>; NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NFB-DB] Day 3<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I am using my iphone. I wish there was away to only get chat and then you can turn on voice if needed. I was lost, I could not hear to raise my hand!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Thanks Heather </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> Tai Tomasi </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> heather Albright </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:35 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Re: [NFB-DB] Day 3</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi. Thanks for asking this question. Are you using VoiceOver with your iPhone or on a Mac computer? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tai Tomasi, <span style='font-size:13.0pt'>J.D., M.P.A.</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Email: <a href="mailto:tai.tomasi8@gmail.com">tai.tomasi8@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt'>Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jul 16, 2020, at 11:26 PM, heather Albright <<a href="mailto:kd5cbl@gmail.com">kd5cbl@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I like the convention however, I cant find how to control the volume of zoom to hear audio and be able to chat or to even here the chat. I could not here well enough to find raise my hand because the volume of vo was to low while the audio was way to high prevent me from hearing vo on the screen. So is there away to change this? Because I saw a lot of chat I could not have access to. Thanks Heather </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>----- Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> Tai Tomasi via NFB-DB </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> <a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cc:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Tai Tomasi </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:38 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> [NFB-DB] Day 3</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi, all! How was day 3 of the convention for everyone? I was grateful to be able to attend the deafblind division meeting as well as the lawyers division. That is one positive of having the convention virtually for me (multiple devices, Braille displays, and sessions!) If you find that a session does not have captioning for whatever reason, please let me know. I have a list of volunteer captioners ready to help! <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tai Tomasi, <span style='font-size:13.0pt'>J.D., M.P.A.</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Email: <a href="mailto:tai.tomasi8@gmail.com">tai.tomasi8@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt'>Sent from my iPhone. 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