<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi, Scott (and anyone else who wants to chime in)<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have had some success using 1capapp with zoom captions. But I can’t seem to get it to read more than one word at a time. I have to push the pan button after each word, instead of having it display at least a whole line at a time before I pan. I am not sure if I am doing something wrong. I have looked at my settings but can’t seem to find a way to fix it. Has anyone else had this issue?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have had this problem using both a mantis and an orbit with iOS devices. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
<div>Lisa Ferris, M.Ed<br class="">Miles Access Skills Training, LLC<br class=""><a href="http://blindmast.com" class="">blindmast.com</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 12, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Scott Davert via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69); color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Hi Rod.</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69); color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Either of these options will work as long as the Zoom host uses one of these services. If you wish to only follow the meeting, you do not have to bother with Zoom itself, you can just follow along with CART. If you wish to interact with the Zoom meeting, things can be a little tricky, as both of the options require that you load a webpage to use CART. What I've done in the past, yes as a braille only user, is pair 2 devices with my braille display. I then must jump between devices to work with both Zoom and CART. You can switch windows on the same device, but It's much more effective if you can jump from one device to another. Particularly if you are an active participant of the Zoom meeting.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69); color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69); color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">I hope this helps,</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(69, 69, 69); color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">Scott</div><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Aug 12, 2021, at 14:52, Rod and Ele Macdonald via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><span class="">Very interesting discussion. Is there a similar "solution" for the Windows environment? Especiallyfor for a Zoom meeting where neither vision nor hearing can be used and the user must rely exclusively on a braille display? </span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">Rod</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">----- Original Message -----</span><br class=""><span class="">From: Scott Davert via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>></span><br class=""><span class="">To: <a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""><span class="">CC: <a href="mailto:scottdavert@gmail.com" class="">scottdavert@gmail.com</a></span><br class=""><span class="">Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:56 am</span><br class=""><span class="">Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] Live captioning interface & app options with Braille display?</span><br class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Hi Todd and welcome to the list!</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Like Toney, I have had success using the 1capapp with my iPhone. I have also used it with JAWS and Mantis braille display. It also works fine with a Focus. Streamtext is another option that works, but I have issues with it since, especially on an iPhone, the text is treated as one large block. You can follow along and read at your own pace, but if you lose your place, you are not able to navigate by anything other than the 1 large block of text. That requires a lot of panning a lot. My experiences on the Mac mirrior Toney's.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">HTH,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Scott</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Sent from my iPhone</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Aug 11, 2021, at 11:04, kg 6sxy (kg6sxy) via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">?Hello Todd,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">For quickly jumping t to the bottom, I've had to use the appropriate shortcut for the OS I'm using; page down on macOS or three finger swipes to scroll the content. I haven't tried turning auto-scroll back on but that might work once the next line comes in.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Take care, </span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Tony</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Aug 11, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Todd Schwanke via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Tony:</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Thanks for your response and sharing your experiences. This is definitely helpful as it provides info on combinations that have been used successfully.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Whether you go back and read some previous captions or you get behind and want to catch up, do you have a quick/reliable way to jump ahead to where the most current captions are being entered without panning through everything in-between?</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Thanks,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Todd</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">From: <a href="mailto:kg6sxy@gmail.com" class="">kg6sxy@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:kg6sxy@gmail.com" class="">kg6sxy@gmail.com</a>> </span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:48 AM</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">To: NFB DeafBlind Division <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Cc: Todd Schwanke <<a href="mailto:todd.schwanke@wisc.edu" class="">todd.schwanke@wisc.edu</a>></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Subject: Re: [NFB-DB] Live captioning interface & app options with Braille display?</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Hello Todd,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">I've used 1CappApp with a braille display connected to an iPhone. I also turn off auto-scrolling in the browser window for 1CappApp which allows me to read the entire content at my own speed without the focus changing every time an update comes in. As for navigating, I only had to use pan forward to make my way through the entire content. I've also tried this with my braille display paired with my MacBook Air and turned off the setting to have the VoiceOver cursor follow the mouse pointer.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">I hope this helps.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Take care, </span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Tony</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">On Aug 11, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Todd Schwanke via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" class="">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Good morning.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">I'm new to this list, but have been on the blindmath list. I've done some reading back through some of the archives, but not all, to review what might have already been discussed on this topic. I noted that there have been some discussions around live captioning, but it seemed to be mostly related to how the captions are generated, rather than how the users interact with them. I'm happy to go back, dig through, and read more of the archives.</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">I work in the office that works with student accommodations at UW-Madison. We have the remote captioning service providers set up, but I'm trying to figure out the best way for students to receive those captions when they use a Braille display. It seems in most cases the focus and/or cursor jumps around a bit, which can make it difficult to follow along live with a screen reader. So, I'm trying to find out what display options (e.g. Windows desktop app, web-based interface, Android app, or iOS app) might work best/better and/or what settings have to be changed for optimal use so that :</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">the screen reader/Braille display echoes back the new captions that appear without the users needing to keep scrolling</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">the cursor(s) stays synced with the new text entry point</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">and/or the user has to do minimal scrolling to keep pace with where the new text is appearing. </span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Assumption here is remote/internet based delivery of captions. I think I'm going to intentionally hold off on saying what we have tried so far as I need to circle back to do some retesting of what students reported in different tests before I rule those interface options out. </span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">From the archives it appears the 1CapApp interface may have been used for the latest NFB convention. How did that work with Braille displays? Were any specific settings or help documents needed to get that set up so that it was easy to follow along without a lot of navigating and scrolling?</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Thank you,</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">Todd Schwanke (he/him)</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">UW-Madison</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">NFB-DB mailing list</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org" class="">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org" class="">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">NFB-DB mailing list</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org" class="">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org" class="">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class="">NFB-DB mailing list</span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org" class="">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org" class="">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><span class=""></span><br class=""></blockquote><span class=""></span><br class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">NFB-DB mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org" class="">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org" class="">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">NFB-DB mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org" class="">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a><br class="">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>