<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Good evening everyone. I want to assure you that that the concerns are being discussed. I had an hour long meeting this evening with a member of our national board to discuss these concerns is going to be worked on to make next year's Washington seminar better and more inclusive.<div><br></div><div>Michael before new draft any letter I would appreciate you finding me here in the seminar hotel we need to chat. </div><div><br></div><div>As far as some of the other issues that have been discussed recently on this list. <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>At that same meeting with a member of the national Board of Directors of the entire Nfb the board member again reminded me that yes we hold our conventions, and voting in person. Unless it is expressly otherwise expressly permitted. I think everyone should understand that</div><div><br></div><div>Sarah's post I'll book the link to pay dues should be regarded by everyone as a final call tomorrow, or today whenever you read this it's the final call before the system mark you as paid or unpaid and or your membership as current or expired. This is our national system. This is what we like every other division in the entire national Federation of the blind must use and must work with. I hope this email find you all well</div><div><br></div><div>Now I must wrap this up and start getting ready for another very busy day on Capitol Hill period </div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely Maurice A. Mines.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 31, 2024, at 01:53, Michael Forzano via NFB-DB <nfb-db@nfbnet.org> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">I could barely hear anything at the reception. Truly disappointing. I'm planning to draft a letter to President Riccobono about what I think needs to be done to address these issues. I would be happy to send it to this list first for feedback and if others from the division are interested in co-signing I think that would be helpful too. I'm hoping to get to this within the next week or so. In the meantime if anyone has thoughts on what should be included, feel free to let me know.</span><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">-Mike<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 30, 2024, at 7:12 PM, Rocky Hart via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">agree, 100%. I just attended the congressional reception and would have liked for that to be a little bit more accessible.<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 30, 2024, at 5:36 PM, Milton via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Joining the Zoom for the Great Gathering is an option but we need to see that those who are able to go to D.C. and go to the Hill is important so that Congress will know that the NFB does have a group of deafblind people who care about the legislative agend agenda of the National Federation of the Blind.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db-bounces@nfbnet.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Rocky Hart via NFB-DB<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, January 30, 2024 3:57 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NFB Deaf-Blind Division Mailing List <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rockyhart1221@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">rockyhart1221@gmail.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NFB-DB] Meetings at NFB National Events<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I don’t know if anyone has any thoughts about attending the great gathering in remotely versus in person. Since I arrived to Washington late last night, I was able to stream part of the great gathering in, and it was very accessible. This could be a potential option, if you want to gain more access to the meeting, granted, you are in a quiet enough environment. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jan 30, 2024, at 4:28 PM, Kat Bottner via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This includes us, the fact that people are struggling to hear at the great gathering in, and the mock meetings at the Washington seminar is a huge issue. The springs the issue further at national convention as well.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jan 30, 2024, at 4:16 PM, Maurice Mines <<a href="mailto:mmines@mauricemines.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">mmines@mauricemines.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Hi the issues that Mikel brother up are being talked and will be fixed. The Volunteer SSP training is on 070324 at 10:00 AM and the Division meeting is on 0705 from 1-5 PM. HTH Maurice A. Mines.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Please continue to ask questions, but remember our focus is the Deaf Blind Federationest. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jan 30, 2024, at 16:37, Kat Bottner via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I too am happy to help with this effort in anyway that people see fit.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Kat<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jan 30, 2024, at 11:19 AM, Misty Kienzynski via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">As a person with (currently) only mild hearing loss, I am still in complete support of all DeafBlind members of this organization as well as all with any disability other than blindness.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It is my belief that our organization needs to do far better in being inclusive of all people with multiple marginalizations.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">That said, at least within my state of Indiana, I have been advocating for the inclusion of A (for Accessibility) into our DEI efforts. After all, there can be no true diversity, equity and inclusion without accessibility for all, and you’d think that our organization of all organizations would understand and seek to implement that. Nevertheless, I feel I hav received some resistance for even bringing this up. Still, I do hope at least this idea reaches the national level. I know it is a small step, but it may also encourage all within the organization to live up to this ideal.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Just some thoughts from an ally.<o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">—</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">Ms. Misty D. Kienzynski</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">Treasurer </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">Membership Chair</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">Historian</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">National Federation of the Blind—Indiana Affiliate</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">Phone: 812-381-0073</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">E-mail:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mkienzyn@alumni.iu.edu" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">mkienzyn@alumni.iu.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">Twitter: @AuroraNebulosa</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="p2" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="p1" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="s1">Bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem. — L. Annaeus Seneca</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On Jan 29, 2024, at 3:11 PM, Michael Forzano via NFB-DB <<a href="mailto:nfb-db@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">nfb-db@nfbnet.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I'm currently in the legislative session at Washington seminar. There is no mic being used for questions from the audience. The only way to ask a question is to shout out and hope you're heard. The presenters try to repeat the questions but sometimes they are long and sometimes even they can't hear the question being asked. This has been a problem at every NFB national event I have attended, including some division meetings at national convention. I think we should take this issue on as a division and advocate for more inclusive meetings for those of us who are deaf blind. It's truly frustrating that we can't get such a basic thing right.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Curious to hear others' thoughts on this.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">-Mike<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">_______________________________________________<br>NFB-DB mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NFB-DB@nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">NFB-DB@nfbnet.org</a><br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;">http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-db_nfbnet.org</a><br>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for NFB-DB:<br><a href="http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nfb-db_nfbnet.org/mkienzyn%40alumni.iu.edu" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); 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