[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles

slery slerythema at insightbb.com
Thu Jun 24 05:25:36 UTC 2010 

Well, my braille instructor taught one woman that began at the age of 90 so
I guess, you could wait until then to pursue it. <smile>

I am still working on classes through Hadley even though I went through the
whole code at a rehab facility. My speed is not where I want it and most of
my reading is done through audio but there are times when I just need to
"see" something and the only way I can do that is through braille. You don't
have to take on everything at once and if you need to wait a while before
tackling braille, then do that. My only comment is that you shouldn't think
of it as a now or never option. Honestly, since you have learned the
alphabet and hopefully numbers, You could work on a few words and then you
could read patterns.

Once you look at a whole pattern and know that every row starts with the
word "row" followed by a number and then a colon, you will easily memorize
these words and know without a doubt where each line starts. Then you
already know the sign for K and P. Depending on how they are brailled, they
may have the sign to indicate they are a letter and then they are followed
by a number and a comma. Other things you would need to know are
parentheses, these may seem hard at first but you have already been a print
pattern reader and know what patterns typically look like. Some other words
might be: repeat, K to end.

Those of us that use patterns, braille or on the computer, tend to write out
all of the lines. So, when a pattern says "Knit all even rows" we would fill
in all the even rows with knit. Anything that calls for a repeat of lines,
we would copy those lines into the correct row. This makes it easier to keep
track of where you are.

If you do decide to try learning enough braille to read patterns, one thing
you could do is to get a print copy and braille copy of the same pattern.
Then have your husband or friend help you read through it each day until you
have it down.

Yes, I am very pro braille but I am not really trying to shove it down your
throat here, promise. My only goal is to offer you all the tools you can use
to succeed. As other blind crafters on this list, we are all so proud of you
for trying things again. That is the one goal of this whole division. Just
because you are blind, you don't have to give up the things you did as a
sighted person.

Cindy S.

Cindy S.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> River Woman
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:00 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> 
> 
> Since I was sighted until I was 64 years old, Braille is 
> really not so 
> appealing to me. I am sure if I learned it as a child, that 
> would be very 
> different. Right now, I want to do things in theleast amount of time 
> possible, and I can see that really learning Braille would 
> take so much 
> time, and at my age, it is just so much more efficient to use 
> technology for 
> everything. I am almost 67 now, so have had to learn so much 
> in a short 
> time, I just decided not to do this. Lynda
> Lynda Lambert
> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> www.lyndalambert.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> 
> 
> > Did you ever think of a note taker.  Then you would have voice and
> > refreshable braille.  The braille is more distinct than 
> regular braille. 
> > If you were in dought of a symbol, you could check it with 
> the speech.  I 
> > have been reading braille since second grade and do not 
> know where I would 
> > be with out it.  I love braille.
> > I have my helmit pattern on the computer and one embossed 
> copy at home. 
> > If the braille copy gets lost or damaged, I can emboss 
> another copy to 
> > follow.
> > It is only recently, I am learning to emboss, and I love it!
> >
> > Terry P.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
> > To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> > Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >
> > Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As a very 
> > visual
> > learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in 
> braille that I 
> > need to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
> >
> > I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut 
> apart each of 
> > the
> > lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A 
> paper clip marks 
> > which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around 
> in my bag.
> > Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an audio 
> > version of the pattern.
> >
> > Cindy S.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River 
> >> Woman
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
> >> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>
> >>
> >> Eileen,
> >> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get 
> messed up and 
> >> have not been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the 
> gym where my 
> >> friend fixes it for me. I do want to be able to do this again by 
> >> myself. I gave up on Braille as I just do not see it as something 
> >> that I need to do. I learned the alpahabet and then took course 1 
> >> through Hadley, and then into course 2 decided it was a 
> waste of my 
> >> time since I do everything with electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert 
> >> River Road Studio, Since 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >>
> >>
> >> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
> >> able to see
> >> >well  enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
> >> I got used to using
> >> > touch to know what I was doing.   If you practice, it isn't
> >> hard to feel
> >> > what is going on.  I consider myself very visual as I 
> visualize the 
> >> > stitches in my mind, but I identify them by touch. I'm 
> sure you can 
> >> > do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
> >> I have a hard
> >> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
> >> knitting, I know
> >> > what
> >> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
> >> where I am and
> >> > what needs to be done.)
> >> >
> >> > Happy krafting.
> >> > --le
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> >> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Eileen,
> >> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
> >> years old.
> >> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
> >> stuff, as I
> >> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
> >> friend for
> >> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
> >> not now. So,
> >> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get 
> me going.
> >> >
> >> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
> >> is 30 miles
> >> > away.
> >> > I will probably order one on line.
> >> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
> >> calendar. And, if
> >> > I
> >> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
> >> let me know.
> >> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
> >> >
> >> > Lynda
> >> > Lynda Lambert
> >> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
> >> > www.lyndalambert.com
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> >> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Lynda:
> >> >>
> >> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
> >> shops, but
> >> >> they might have to special order them for you.  They are
> >> used mostly
> >> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
> >> this frightens
> >> >> a lot of people away from them.  I suppose to that since they 
> >> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
> >> stock them.  If
> >> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
> >> Pattern Works.
> >> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
> >> them to be a
> >> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
> >> >>
> >> >> Eileen
> >> >>
> >> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> >> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
> >> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" 
> >> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >> >>
> >> >>> Size 000, OH My Word!  That is downright frightening. 
> I am up for 
> >> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads up in 
> >> >>> advance. Lynda
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Lynda Lambert
> >> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> >> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> >> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
> >> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving 
> a class in 
> >> >>>>September  on how to do a life line.  Patternworks 
> does have the 
> >> >>>>needle she is  suggesting and I thought if anyone was
> >> poking around
> >> >>>>a yarn shop this  summer and
> >> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
> >> the info:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000   price is: $18
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Joyce  Kane
> >> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> >> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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