[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
Marianne Denning
mdenning at cinci.rr.com
Fri Jun 25 21:01:49 UTC 2010
The labelers have a hole where the print letter is displayed. My husband
does not know braille and makes labels for me at times. It can be slow.
----- Original Message -----
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>I don't like the labelers because they are slow, and for sighted family
> members who don't know braille, it is not usable.
> That one-line slate sounds interesting.
> --le
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Anderson" <silkylin at juno.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
> I also use the dymo tape and index cards. You can get a braille labeler
> for
> around $20 from the Braille Superstore. It works great. You can also get a
> one line slate that is great with the dymo tape. For labeling cans, you
> can
> get a roll of magnetic strip and put the dymo tape on it and then stick
> the
> label on the can. That way you can use the magnetic label over and over
> again. Linda Anderson ----- Original Message -----
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
>> Hi all -- well I'm over 50 and I believe my braille speed is inching up,
>> mainly because I have been using it every week to teach my class. I used
>> to
>> read it too slowly to follow my own outline notes, but now I can read
>> ahead
>> as I speak and usually speak straight through without silent gaps. (The
>> kids
>> are polite when I do take a few seconds, but I prefer not to do that.)
>> So using it is the key.
>> You know, the thing that really makes it hard for me to use braille is
>> the
>> awkwardness of creating braille labels for things.
>> It's really a pain.
>> How do others generally handling the labeling process?
>> --le
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "MS S TILLETT" <suetillett at verizon.net>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>> I've been a Braille mentor for years. The oldest person I ever taught
>> was
>> 78 when she started and she really did learn everything. I worked with a
>> friend who was in this thirties but he never really got very good. He
>> didn't work on it at home and you can't learn it sitting in my kitchen
>> for
>> an hour once a week. He is also loosing his hearing, and if he looses it
>> completely, no technology is going to do it. Finally we decided he
>> should
>> just consintrate on learning the alphabet so that he can at least label
>> things and write notes to himself, but he doesn't really use it. I
>> helped
>> him label his CDs and I guess he does read those. I think it is just
>> very
>> individual. I would think that learning just enough to write things down
>> would be helpful. I have been a Braillle reader all my life, and I'm not
>> a
>> speed-queen, but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
>>
>> I think it is very sad that young people don't think it is necessary
>> because
>> of their dependence on technology. Sue
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: River Woman
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>> You have hit it on the head - I see it as being soooooo slow, and that I
>> would take forever and never be very good at it. I do not enjoy it at
>> all
>> and at this point in my life I feel like there is no reason I need to do
>> it.
>> I think to be proficient, meaning that I could stand and give a lecture
>> using braille, would take many years to achieve. I can't imagine someone
>> my
>> age really becoming proficient at it. I can "read" books and knit at
>> the
>> same time now, and I like that a lot. I think that if I want to learn
>> something, it would be to concentrate on a foreign language that I
>> really
>> want to learn, just for my own satisfaction. Lynda
>> Lynda Lambert
>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> www.lyndalambert.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>> > Lynda, I was a rehabilitation teacher before I became a TVI. Many
>> older
>> > adults do not learn braille. This is for several reasons. It is
>> harder
>> > to learn new skills as we get older and our fingers lose some of their
>> > sensativity through the years. If you were determined to learn
>> braille
>> I
>> > would tell you to go for it but if you want to focus on other areas
>> more
>> I
>> > think that is a good idea too. If you are really interested in
>> learning
>> > braille there may be a rehabilitation teacher in your area who can
>> help
>> > you learn it.
>> >
>> > I have been a braille reader too and could not live without it but I
>> > understand your feelings too.
>> > Marianne Denning
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>> >
>> >
>> >>I am laughing - probably so.
>> >>
>> >> Lynda Lambert
>> >> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> >> www.lyndalambert.com
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I'm thinking Sahar is gonna have some words of wisdom for you again.
>> >>> *grin
>> >>>
>> >>> Cindy Zimmer
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
>> Woman
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:00 PM
>> >>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>> >>>
>> >>> Since I was sighted until I was 64 years old, Braille is really not
>> so
>> >>> appealing to me. I am sure if I learned it as a child, that would be
>> >>> very
>> >>> different. Right now, I want to do things in theleast amount of time
>> >>> possible, and I can see that really learning Braille would take so
>> much
>> >>> time, and at my age, it is just so much more efficient to use
>> technology
>> >>> for
>> >>> everything. I am almost 67 now, so have had to learn so much in a
>> short
>> >>> time, I just decided not to do this. Lynda
>> >>> Lynda Lambert
>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>> >>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> >>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:33 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Did you ever think of a note taker. Then you would have voice and
>> >>>> refreshable braille. The braille is more distinct than regular
>> >>>> braille.
>> >>>> If you were in dought of a symbol, you could check it with the
>> speech.
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> have been reading braille since second grade and do not know where
>> I
>> >>>> would
>> >>>> be with out it. I love braille.
>> >>>> I have my helmit pattern on the computer and one embossed copy at
>> home.
>> >>>> If the braille copy gets lost or damaged, I can emboss another copy
>> to
>> >>>> follow.
>> >>>> It is only recently, I am learning to emboss, and I love it!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Terry P.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
>> >>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> >>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As a very
>> >>>> visual
>> >>>> learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in braille
>> that
>> I
>> >>>> need to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut apart each
>> of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A paper clip
>> >>>> marks
>> >>>> which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around in my
>> bag.
>> >>>> Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an audio
>> >>>> version of the pattern.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cindy S.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
>> >>>>> Woman
>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
>> >>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Eileen,
>> >>>>> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get messed up
>> and
>> >>>>> have not been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the gym where
>> my
>> >>>>> friend fixes it for me. I do want to be able to do this again by
>> >>>>> myself. I gave up on Braille as I just do not see it as something
>> that
>> >>>>> I need to do. I learned the alpahabet and then took course 1
>> through
>> >>>>> Hadley, and then into course 2 decided it was a waste of my time
>> since
>> >>>>> I do everything with electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert River Road
>> >>>>> Studio, Since
>> >>>>> 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
>> >>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
>> >>>>> able to see
>> >>>>> >well enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
>> >>>>> I got used to using
>> >>>>> > touch to know what I was doing. If you practice, it isn't
>> >>>>> hard to feel
>> >>>>> > what is going on. I consider myself very visual as I visualize
>> the
>> >>>>> > stitches in my mind, but I identify them by touch.
>> >>>>> > I'm sure you can do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
>> >>>>> I have a hard
>> >>>>> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
>> >>>>> knitting, I know
>> >>>>> > what
>> >>>>> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
>> >>>>> where I am and
>> >>>>> > what needs to be done.)
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Happy krafting.
>> >>>>> > --le
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>> >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Hi Eileen,
>> >>>>> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
>> >>>>> years old.
>> >>>>> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
>> >>>>> stuff, as I
>> >>>>> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
>> >>>>> friend for
>> >>>>> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
>> >>>>> not now. So,
>> >>>>> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get me
>> going.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
>> >>>>> is 30 miles
>> >>>>> > away.
>> >>>>> > I will probably order one on line.
>> >>>>> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
>> >>>>> calendar. And, if
>> >>>>> > I
>> >>>>> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
>> >>>>> let me know.
>> >>>>> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Lynda
>> >>>>> > Lynda Lambert
>> >>>>> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> >>>>> > www.lyndalambert.com
>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> >> Lynda:
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
>> >>>>> shops, but
>> >>>>> >> they might have to special order them for you. They are
>> >>>>> used mostly
>> >>>>> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
>> >>>>> this frightens
>> >>>>> >> a lot of people away from them. I suppose to that since they
>> >>>>> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
>> >>>>> stock them. If
>> >>>>> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
>> >>>>> Pattern Works.
>> >>>>> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
>> >>>>> them to be a
>> >>>>> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> Eileen
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>> >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
>> >>>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> >>>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>> >>> Size 000, OH My Word! That is downright frightening. I am up
>> for
>> >>>>> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads up in
>> >>>>> >>> advance. Lynda
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
>> >>>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> >>>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>> >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> >>>>> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
>> >>>>> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving a class
>> in
>> >>>>> >>>>September on how to do a life line. Patternworks does have
>> the
>> >>>>> >>>>needle she is suggesting and I thought if anyone was
>> >>>>> poking around
>> >>>>> >>>>a yarn shop this summer and
>> >>>>> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
>> >>>>> the info:
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000 price is: $18
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>> >>>> Joyce Kane
>> >>>>> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>> >>>>> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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