[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
Henrietta Brewer
gary.brewer at comcast.net
Mon Jun 28 19:18:28 UTC 2010
Hi,
I bought mine last year at convention. I am sure it was the nfb
store. Works a lot better.
HenriettaAt 03:07 PM 6/28/2010, you wrote:
>Check the NFB store. The adapter I have fits over the back of the
>brailler and the dimo tape fits in it. It is hard mettle.
>
>Terry P.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: qubit [mailto:lauraeaves at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 1:18 PM
>To: List for blind crafters and artists
>Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>where did you get this adaptor? I use labeling tape but it is
>awkward and moves around when I put it in the brailler, and it is so
>slow to use the slate.
>--le
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gary Brewer" <gary.brewer at comcast.net>
>To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:59 AM
>Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
>Hi Laura,
>
>I use a whole sheet of laminating paper to write my labels. Then I
>cut them off the page. That is easier then trying to braille on a
>small piece.
>
>I also have an adapter to put on the braille writer that holds just a
>row of tape. Then you can run the dimo tape through the adapter and
>write as many labels as you iwsh. They can be cut after removing them
>from the adapter.
>
>HenriettaAt 06:35 PM 6/24/2010, you wrote:
> >Hi all -- well I'm over 50 and I believe my braille speed is inching up,
> >mainly because I have been using it every week to teach my class. I used
> >to
> >read it too slowly to follow my own outline notes, but now I can read ahead
> >as I speak and usually speak straight through without silent gaps. (The
> >kids
> >are polite when I do take a few seconds, but I prefer not to do that.)
> >So using it is the key.
> >You know, the thing that really makes it hard for me to use braille is the
> >awkwardness of creating braille labels for things.
> >It's really a pain.
> >How do others generally handling the labeling process?
> >--le
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "MS S TILLETT" <suetillett at verizon.net>
> >To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >
> >
> >I've been a Braille mentor for years. The oldest person I ever taught was
> >78 when she started and she really did learn everything. I worked with a
> >friend who was in this thirties but he never really got very good. He
> >didn't work on it at home and you can't learn it sitting in my kitchen for
> >an hour once a week. He is also loosing his hearing, and if he looses it
> >completely, no technology is going to do it. Finally we decided he should
> >just consintrate on learning the alphabet so that he can at least label
> >things and write notes to himself, but he doesn't really use it. I helped
> >him label his CDs and I guess he does read those. I think it is just very
> >individual. I would think that learning just enough to write things down
> >would be helpful. I have been a Braillle reader all my life, and I'm not a
> >speed-queen, but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
> >
> >I think it is very sad that young people don't think it is necessary
> >because
> >of their dependence on technology. Sue
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: River Woman
> > To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >
> >
> > You have hit it on the head - I see it as being soooooo slow, and that I
> > would take forever and never be very good at it. I do not enjoy it at
> > all
> > and at this point in my life I feel like there is no reason I need to do
> >it.
> > I think to be proficient, meaning that I could stand and give a lecture
> > using braille, would take many years to achieve. I can't imagine someone
> >my
> > age really becoming proficient at it. I can "read" books and knit at
> > the
> > same time now, and I like that a lot. I think that if I want to learn
> > something, it would be to concentrate on a foreign language that I
> > really
> > want to learn, just for my own satisfaction. Lynda
> > Lynda Lambert
> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
> > www.lyndalambert.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> >
> >
> > > Lynda, I was a rehabilitation teacher before I became a TVI. Many
> > older
> > > adults do not learn braille. This is for several reasons. It is
> > harder
> > > to learn new skills as we get older and our fingers lose some of their
> > > sensativity through the years. If you were determined to learn
> > braille
> >I
> > > would tell you to go for it but if you want to focus on other areas
> > more
> >I
> > > think that is a good idea too. If you are really interested in
> > learning
> > > braille there may be a rehabilitation teacher in your area who can
> > help
> > > you learn it.
> > >
> > > I have been a braille reader too and could not live without it but I
> > > understand your feelings too.
> > > Marianne Denning
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> > > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> ><nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> > >
> > >
> > >>I am laughing - probably so.
> > >>
> > >> Lynda Lambert
> > >> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> > >> www.lyndalambert.com
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
> > >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> I'm thinking Sahar is gonna have some words of wisdom for you again.
> > >>> *grin
> > >>>
> > >>> Cindy Zimmer
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
> >Woman
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:00 PM
> > >>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> > >>>
> > >>> Since I was sighted until I was 64 years old, Braille is really not
> > so
> > >>> appealing to me. I am sure if I learned it as a child, that would be
> > >>> very
> > >>> different. Right now, I want to do things in theleast amount of time
> > >>> possible, and I can see that really learning Braille would take so
> >much
> > >>> time, and at my age, it is just so much more efficient to use
> >technology
> > >>> for
> > >>> everything. I am almost 67 now, so have had to learn so much in a
> >short
> > >>> time, I just decided not to do this. Lynda
> > >>> Lynda Lambert
> > >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> > >>> www.lyndalambert.com
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
> > >>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> > >>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:33 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Did you ever think of a note taker. Then you would have voice and
> > >>>> refreshable braille. The braille is more distinct than regular
> > >>>> braille.
> > >>>> If you were in dought of a symbol, you could check it with the
> >speech.
> > >>>> I
> > >>>> have been reading braille since second grade and do not know where
> > I
> > >>>> would
> > >>>> be with out it. I love braille.
> > >>>> I have my helmit pattern on the computer and one embossed copy at
> >home.
> > >>>> If the braille copy gets lost or damaged, I can emboss another copy
> >to
> > >>>> follow.
> > >>>> It is only recently, I am learning to emboss, and I love it!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Terry P.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
> > >>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> > >>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As a very
> > >>>> visual
> > >>>> learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in braille
> > that
> >I
> > >>>> need to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut apart each
> > of
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A paper clip
> > >>>> marks
> > >>>> which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around in my
> > bag.
> > >>>> Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an audio
> > >>>> version of the pattern.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cindy S.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > >>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River
> > >>>>> Woman
> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
> > >>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Eileen,
> > >>>>> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get messed up
> > and
> > >>>>> have not been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the gym where
> >my
> > >>>>> friend fixes it for me. I do want to be able to do this again by
> > >>>>> myself. I gave up on Braille as I just do not see it as something
> >that
> > >>>>> I need to do. I learned the alpahabet and then took course 1
> > through
> > >>>>> Hadley, and then into course 2 decided it was a waste of my time
> >since
> > >>>>> I do everything with electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert River Road
> > >>>>> Studio, Since
> > >>>>> 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> > >>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
> > >>>>> able to see
> > >>>>> >well enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
> > >>>>> I got used to using
> > >>>>> > touch to know what I was doing. If you practice, it isn't
> > >>>>> hard to feel
> > >>>>> > what is going on. I consider myself very visual as I visualize
> >the
> > >>>>> > stitches in my mind, but I identify them by touch.
> > >>>>> > I'm sure you can do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
> > >>>>> I have a hard
> > >>>>> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
> > >>>>> knitting, I know
> > >>>>> > what
> > >>>>> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
> > >>>>> where I am and
> > >>>>> > what needs to be done.)
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > Happy krafting.
> > >>>>> > --le
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> > >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
> > >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > Hi Eileen,
> > >>>>> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
> > >>>>> years old.
> > >>>>> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
> > >>>>> stuff, as I
> > >>>>> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
> > >>>>> friend for
> > >>>>> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
> > >>>>> not now. So,
> > >>>>> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get me
> > going.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
> > >>>>> is 30 miles
> > >>>>> > away.
> > >>>>> > I will probably order one on line.
> > >>>>> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
> > >>>>> calendar. And, if
> > >>>>> > I
> > >>>>> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
> > >>>>> let me know.
> > >>>>> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > Lynda
> > >>>>> > Lynda Lambert
> > >>>>> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
> > >>>>> > www.lyndalambert.com
> > >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> > >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
> > >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> >> Lynda:
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
> > >>>>> shops, but
> > >>>>> >> they might have to special order them for you. They are
> > >>>>> used mostly
> > >>>>> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
> > >>>>> this frightens
> > >>>>> >> a lot of people away from them. I suppose to that since they
> > >>>>> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
> > >>>>> stock them. If
> > >>>>> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
> > >>>>> Pattern Works.
> > >>>>> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
> > >>>>> them to be a
> > >>>>> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >> Eileen
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> > >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
> > >>>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
> > >>>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> > >>>>> >>
> > >>>>> >>> Size 000, OH My Word! That is downright frightening. I am up
> >for
> > >>>>> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads up in
> > >>>>> >>> advance. Lynda
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >>>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
> > >>>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> > >>>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
> > >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> > >>>>> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> > >>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
> > >>>>> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >>>>> >>>
> > >>>>> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving a class
> >in
> > >>>>> >>>>September on how to do a life line. Patternworks does have
> > the
> > >>>>> >>>>needle she is suggesting and I thought if anyone was
> > >>>>> poking around
> > >>>>> >>>>a yarn shop this summer and
> > >>>>> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
> > >>>>> the info:
> > >>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000 price is: $18
> > >>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>> >>>> Joyce Kane
> > >>>>> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> > >>>>> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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