[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
Marianne Denning
mdenning at cinci.rr.com
Tue Jun 29 19:57:02 UTC 2010
Yes, it would work to put the labels on the outside of the bag but I usually
put them inside so they don't get separated from the beads they go with.
You could put all beads of one style in a larger container or all of the
beads of one color in a container. It depends on what makes most sense to
you. The important thing about organization is that it is a system the
individual can use.
Marianne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>I did not think of the mini bags. You usually think of those for meds.
>That might work. The tape might stick better. Do you put all of a related
>style bead in a larger container?
> I happen to have a lot of those bags. Will the dimo tape work on the
> outside?
> Got to get this mess of mine under control!
> Terry P.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marianne Denning [mailto:mdenning at cinci.rr.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:40 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
> Terry, I have used zip-lock bags and put a braille label inside the bag
> that tells the color. There are some pretty small zip-lock bags.
>
> Marianne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <TerrTerry, I have uused zip-lock
> bags y.Powers at nih.gov>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
>> Laura;
>> My sight is way to limited to do it that way. Guess I need fresh tape.
>> I just need to find some way to organize my beads.
>>
>> Terry P.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: River Woman [mailto:riverwoman at zoominternet.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:23 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>> How I sort and store my beads:
>> I use the containers that are divided into individual squares. I put
>> the label from the beads on the top part of the box, above where the
>> bead is stored. That is, on the inside of the top of the box, so that
>> when the box is closed the label is directly above that little square
>> that holds those particular beads. Fire Mountain lables work great,
>> they remain sticky, if removed from the bead package very carefully.
>>
>> Also, I have a separate box for each type of bead. For instance,
>> Aventurine is the only kind of gemstone in the Aventurine box.
>> Carnelian is the only kind of stone in the Carnelian box. etc. I do
>> not mix up bead types at all.
>> The boxes are labeled on the front of the outside of the box, and then
>> everything is stored in ROY G BIV order.
>>
>> Lynda
>> Lynda Lambert
>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>> www.lyndalambert.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>>>I am finding my dimo tape is coming off my beading boxes. Any idea why.
>>>The only reason I can come up with is maybe the tape was old and maybe
>>>I need to trash all I have and get some new at convention and start my
>>>labeling all over again.
>>> What do you all use for storing your beads? How do you label them?
>>> I have plastic containers of all sizes and put the color and size of
>>>the bead. I am not into exotic beads, yet.
>>> I usually leave them on the string or card until I am ready to use
>>>them or label them.
>>> I need to get organized before I take up this craft, again. I was
>>>looking for my wrapping wire to bring to convention, but can not find
>>>it for the life of me.
>>>
>>> Sahar; Do you have any wire you can bring. I will not have time to
>>> get any more before convention. I want to try out the tools at
>>> convention.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sahar Husseini [mailto:sahar at inebraska.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:52 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>>
>>> People always ask me why they should learn the slate and stylus. So
>>> many young people at the Center come to us not knowing how to write.
>>> It breaks my heart. I don't understand the logic of teaching
>>> children to write with a pen but not teaching blind children to write
>>> with the slate and stylus.
>>> They're not the same, no, as some are so fond of arguing, but they're
>>> both hand-writing. I can't imagine my world without Braille. I am
>>> very disorganized, and if I didn't have Braille to help me keep the
>>> mess sorted out, I'm not sure what I'd do. My bead warehouse
>>> downstairs would be more of an amazing mess without Braille.
>>> Sometimes Braille is hard for people to learn, but it would be the
>>> same if someone had to learn print as an adult. It is no different.
>>> I just know that I don't want to hire a reader or ask my husband
>>> about what's what every time I need to design a piece of jewelry.
>>> I'm not saying I never ask; I'm saying that I make every effort to
>>> have things labeled so I don't need to ask as often. Oh, and I
>>> realized just this last year that I really needed to do way more
>>> labeling. *lol* I thought I'd remember everything, so I'd just put
>>> the label carnelian with my carnelian beads. Never mind that there
>>> are bazillions of different carnelian beads that I have, and each
>>> from a different place, with a different price. Oh, to be 30 again
>>> and have the good memory I once had. *laughing*
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Sahar Husseini
>>> For hand-crafted, one-of-a-kind jewelry, Please visit my Website at
>>> www.saharscreations.com And remember, "Obstacles don't have to stop you.
>>> If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up.
>>> Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it."
>>> Michael Jordan
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: MS S TILLETT
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been a Braille mentor for years. The oldest person I ever
>>> taught was 78 when she started and she really did learn everything.
>>> I worked with a friend who was in this thirties but he never really got
>>> very good.
>>> He didn't work on it at home and you can't learn it sitting in my
>>> kitchen for an hour once a week. He is also loosing his hearing, and
>>> if he looses it completely, no technology is going to do it. Finally
>>> we decided he should just consintrate on learning the alphabet so
>>> that he can at least label things and write notes to himself, but he
>>> doesn't really use it. I helped him label his CDs and I guess he
>>> does read those. I think it is just very individual. I would think
>>> that learning just enough to write things down would be helpful. I
>>> have been a Braillle reader all my life, and I'm not a speed-queen,
>>> but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
>>>
>>> I think it is very sad that young people don't think it is necessary
>>> because of their dependence on technology. Sue
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: River Woman
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>>
>>>
>>> You have hit it on the head - I see it as being soooooo slow, and
>>> that I
>>> would take forever and never be very good at it. I do not enjoy it
>>> at all
>>> and at this point in my life I feel like there is no reason I need
>>> to do it.
>>> I think to be proficient, meaning that I could stand and give a
>>> lecture
>>> using braille, would take many years to achieve. I can't imagine
>>> someone my
>>> age really becoming proficient at it. I can "read" books and knit
>>> at the
>>> same time now, and I like that a lot. I think that if I want to
>>> learn
>>> something, it would be to concentrate on a foreign language that I
>>> really
>>> want to learn, just for my own satisfaction. Lynda
>>> Lynda Lambert
>>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>>
>>>
>>> > Lynda, I was a rehabilitation teacher before I became a TVI.
>>> Many older
>>> > adults do not learn braille. This is for several reasons. It
>>> is harder
>>> > to learn new skills as we get older and our fingers lose some of
>>> their
>>> > sensativity through the years. If you were determined to learn
>>> braille I
>>> > would tell you to go for it but if you want to focus on other
>>> areas more I
>>> > think that is a good idea too. If you are really interested in
>>> learning
>>> > braille there may be a rehabilitation teacher in your area who
>>> can help
>>> > you learn it.
>>> >
>>> > I have been a braille reader too and could not live without it but
>>> I
>>> > understand your feelings too.
>>> > Marianne Denning
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>I am laughing - probably so.
>>> >>
>>> >> Lynda Lambert
>>> >> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>> >> www.lyndalambert.com
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> I'm thinking Sahar is gonna have some words of wisdom for you
>>> again.
>>> >>> *grin
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cindy Zimmer
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> >>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> River Woman
>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:00 PM
>>> >>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Since I was sighted until I was 64 years old, Braille is
>>> really not so
>>> >>> appealing to me. I am sure if I learned it as a child, that
>>> would be
>>> >>> very
>>> >>> different. Right now, I want to do things in theleast amount
>>> of time
>>> >>> possible, and I can see that really learning Braille would
>>> take so much
>>> >>> time, and at my age, it is just so much more efficient to use
>>> technology
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> everything. I am almost 67 now, so have had to learn so much
>>> in a short
>>> >>> time, I just decided not to do this. Lynda
>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>> >>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>>> >>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:33 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Did you ever think of a note taker. Then you would have
>>> voice and
>>> >>>> refreshable braille. The braille is more distinct than regular
>>> >>>> braille.
>>> >>>> If you were in dought of a symbol, you could check it with
>>> the speech.
>>> >>>> I
>>> >>>> have been reading braille since second grade and do not know
>>> where I
>>> >>>> would
>>> >>>> be with out it. I love braille.
>>> >>>> I have my helmit pattern on the computer and one embossed
>>> copy at home.
>>> >>>> If the braille copy gets lost or damaged, I can emboss
>>> another copy to
>>> >>>> follow.
>>> >>>> It is only recently, I am learning to emboss, and I love it!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Terry P.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
>>> >>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> >>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As
>>> a very
>>> >>>> visual
>>> >>>> learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in
>>> braille that I
>>> >>>> need to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut apart
>>> each of
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A
>>> paper clip
>>> >>>> marks
>>> >>>> which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around in
>>> my bag.
>>> >>>> Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an
>>> audio
>>> >>>> version of the pattern.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Cindy S.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> River
>>> >>>>> Woman
>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
>>> >>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Eileen,
>>> >>>>> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get messed
>>> up and
>>> >>>>> have not been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the gym
>>> where my
>>> >>>>> friend fixes it for me. I do want to be able to do this again
>>> by
>>> >>>>> myself. I gave up on Braille as I just do not see it as
>>> something that
>>> >>>>> I need to do. I learned the alpahabet and then took course 1
>>> through
>>> >>>>> Hadley, and then into course 2 decided it was a waste of my
>>> time since
>>> >>>>> I do everything with electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert River
>>> Road
>>> >>>>> Studio, Since
>>> >>>>> 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
>>> >>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
>>> >>>>> able to see
>>> >>>>> >well enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
>>> >>>>> I got used to using
>>> >>>>> > touch to know what I was doing. If you practice, it isn't
>>> >>>>> hard to feel
>>> >>>>> > what is going on. I consider myself very visual as I
>>> visualize the
>>> >>>>> > stitches in my mind, but I identify them by touch.
>>> >>>>> > I'm sure you can do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
>>> >>>>> I have a hard
>>> >>>>> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
>>> >>>>> knitting, I know
>>> >>>>> > what
>>> >>>>> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
>>> >>>>> where I am and
>>> >>>>> > what needs to be done.)
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Happy krafting.
>>> >>>>> > --le
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>> >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Hi Eileen,
>>> >>>>> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
>>> >>>>> years old.
>>> >>>>> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
>>> >>>>> stuff, as I
>>> >>>>> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
>>> >>>>> friend for
>>> >>>>> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
>>> >>>>> not now. So,
>>> >>>>> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get
>>> me going.
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
>>> >>>>> is 30 miles
>>> >>>>> > away.
>>> >>>>> > I will probably order one on line.
>>> >>>>> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
>>> >>>>> calendar. And, if
>>> >>>>> > I
>>> >>>>> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
>>> >>>>> let me know.
>>> >>>>> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> > Lynda
>>> >>>>> > Lynda Lambert
>>> >>>>> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>> >>>>> > www.lyndalambert.com
>>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>> >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >
>>> >>>>> >> Lynda:
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
>>> >>>>> shops, but
>>> >>>>> >> they might have to special order them for you. They are
>>> >>>>> used mostly
>>> >>>>> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
>>> >>>>> this frightens
>>> >>>>> >> a lot of people away from them. I suppose to that since
>>> they
>>> >>>>> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
>>> >>>>> stock them. If
>>> >>>>> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
>>> >>>>> Pattern Works.
>>> >>>>> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
>>> >>>>> them to be a
>>> >>>>> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> Eileen
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>> >>>>> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>> >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
>>> >>>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> >>>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>> >>>>> >>
>>> >>>>> >>> Size 000, OH My Word! That is downright frightening. I
>>> am up for
>>> >>>>> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads
>>> up in
>>> >>>>> >>> advance. Lynda
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
>>> >>>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>> >>>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>> >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>> >>>>> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
>>> >>>>> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving a
>>> class in
>>> >>>>> >>>>September on how to do a life line. Patternworks does
>>> have the
>>> >>>>> >>>>needle she is suggesting and I thought if anyone was
>>> >>>>> poking around
>>> >>>>> >>>>a yarn shop this summer and
>>> >>>>> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
>>> >>>>> the info:
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000 price is: $18
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> >>>> Joyce Kane
>>> >>>>> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> >>>>> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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