[Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles

Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E] Terry.Powers at nih.gov
Wed Jun 30 20:04:49 UTC 2010


If the braille is inside, how do you read it, with out opening each one.  I would think you would put it on the outside of the bag.  I stapled my descriptive labels to each bag.

Terry


-----Original Message-----
From: Marianne Denning [mailto:mdenning at cinci.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:40 AM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles

Terry, I have used zip-lock bags and put a braille label inside the bag that tells the color.  There are some pretty small zip-lock bags.

Marianne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <TerrTerry, I have uused zip-lock bags y.Powers at nih.gov>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles


> Laura;
> My sight is way to limited to do it that way.  Guess I need fresh tape.
> I just need to find some way to organize my beads.
>
> Terry P.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: River Woman [mailto:riverwoman at zoominternet.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:23 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
> How I sort and store my beads:
> I use the containers that are divided into individual squares. I put
> the label from the beads on the top part of the box, above where the
> bead is stored. That is, on the inside of the top of the box, so that
> when the box is closed the label is directly above that little square
> that holds those particular beads. Fire Mountain lables work great,
> they remain sticky, if removed from the bead package very carefully.
>
> Also, I have a separate box for each type of bead. For instance,
> Aventurine is the only kind of gemstone in the Aventurine box.
> Carnelian is the only kind of stone in the Carnelian box. etc. I do
> not mix up bead types at all.
> The boxes are labeled on the front of the outside of the box, and then
> everything is stored in ROY G BIV order.
>
> Lynda
> Lynda Lambert
> River Road Studio, Since 1976
> www.lyndalambert.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>
>
>>I am finding my dimo tape is coming off my beading boxes.  Any idea why.
>>The only reason I can come up with is maybe the tape was old and maybe
>>I need to trash all I have and get some new at convention and start my
>>labeling all over again.
>> What do you all use for storing your beads?  How do you label them?
>> I have plastic containers of all sizes and put the color and size of
>>the  bead.  I am not into exotic beads, yet.
>> I usually leave them on the string or card until I am ready to use
>>them  or  label them.
>> I need to get organized before I take up this craft, again.  I was
>>looking  for my wrapping wire to bring to convention, but can not find
>>it for the  life of me.
>>
>> Sahar;  Do you have any wire you can bring.  I will not have time to
>> get any more before convention.  I want to try out the tools at convention.
>>
>> Terry P.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sahar Husseini [mailto:sahar at inebraska.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:52 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>> People always ask me why they should learn the slate and stylus.  So
>> many young people at the Center come to us not knowing how to write.
>> It breaks my heart.  I don't understand the logic of teaching
>> children to write with a pen but not teaching blind children to write
>> with the slate and stylus.
>> They're not the same, no, as some are so fond of arguing, but they're
>> both hand-writing.  I can't imagine my world without Braille.  I am
>> very disorganized, and if I didn't have Braille to help me keep the
>> mess sorted out, I'm not sure what I'd do.  My bead warehouse
>> downstairs would be more of an amazing mess without Braille.
>> Sometimes Braille is hard for people to learn, but it would be the
>> same if someone had to learn print as an adult.  It is no different.
>> I just know that I don't want to hire a reader or ask my husband
>> about what's what every time I need to design a piece of jewelry.
>> I'm not saying I never ask; I'm saying that I make every effort to
>> have things labeled so I don't need to ask as often.  Oh, and I
>> realized just this last year that I really needed to do way more
>> labeling.  *lol*  I thought I'd remember everything, so I'd just put
>> the label carnelian with my carnelian beads.  Never mind that there
>> are bazillions of different carnelian beads that I have, and each
>> from a different place, with a different price.  Oh, to be 30 again
>> and have the good memory I once had.  *laughing*
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Sahar Husseini
>> For hand-crafted, one-of-a-kind jewelry, Please visit my Website at
>> www.saharscreations.com And remember, "Obstacles don't have to stop you.
>> If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up.
>> Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it."
>> Michael Jordan
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: MS S TILLETT
>>  To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>  Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:52 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>>  I've been a Braille mentor for years.  The oldest person I ever
>> taught was 78 when she started and she really did learn everything.
>> I worked with a friend who was in this thirties but he never really got very good.
>> He didn't work on it at home and you can't learn it sitting in my
>> kitchen for an hour once a week.  He is also loosing his hearing, and
>> if he looses it completely, no technology is going to do it.  Finally
>> we decided he should just consintrate on learning the alphabet so
>> that he can at least label things and write notes to himself, but he
>> doesn't really use it.  I helped him label his CDs and I guess he
>> does read those.  I think it is just very individual.  I would think
>> that learning just enough to write things down would be helpful.  I
>> have been a Braillle reader all my life, and I'm not a speed-queen,
>> but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
>>
>>  I think it is very sad that young people don't think it is necessary
>> because of their dependence on technology.  Sue
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: River Woman
>>    To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>    Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:27 PM
>>    Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>>    You have hit it on the head - I see it as being soooooo slow, and
>> that I
>>    would take forever and never be very good at it. I do not enjoy it
>> at all
>>    and at this point in my life I feel like there is no reason I need
>> to do it.
>>    I think to be proficient, meaning that I could stand and give a
>> lecture
>>    using braille, would take many years to achieve. I can't imagine
>> someone my
>>    age really becoming proficient at it.  I can "read" books and knit
>> at the
>>    same time now, and I like that a lot.  I think that if I want to learn
>>    something, it would be to concentrate on a foreign language that I
>> really
>>    want to learn, just for my own satisfaction. Lynda
>>    Lynda Lambert
>>    River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>    www.lyndalambert.com
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: "Marianne Denning" <mdenning at cinci.rr.com>
>>    To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:34 PM
>>    Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>
>>
>>    > Lynda, I was a rehabilitation teacher before I became a TVI.
>> Many older
>>    > adults do not learn braille.  This is for several reasons.  It
>> is harder
>>    > to learn new skills as we get older and our fingers lose some of
>> their
>>    > sensativity through the years.  If you were determined to learn
>> braille I
>>    > would tell you to go for it but if you want to focus on other
>> areas more I
>>    > think that is a good idea too.  If you are really interested in
>> learning
>>    > braille there may be a rehabilitation teacher in your area who
>> can help
>>    > you learn it.
>>    >
>>    > I have been a braille reader too and could not live without it but I
>>    > understand your feelings too.
>>    > Marianne Denning
>>    > ----- Original Message -----
>>    > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>    > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:46 PM
>>    > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>    >
>>    >
>>    >>I am laughing - probably so.
>>    >>
>>    >> Lynda Lambert
>>    >> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>    >> www.lyndalambert.com
>>    >> ----- Original Message -----
>>    >> From: "Zimmer, Cindy" <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
>>    >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>    >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:52 PM
>>    >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>    >>
>>    >>
>>    >>> I'm thinking Sahar is gonna have some words of wisdom for you
>> again.
>>    >>> *grin
>>    >>>
>>    >>> Cindy Zimmer
>>    >>>
>>    >>> -----Original Message-----
>>    >>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>    >>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> River Woman
>>    >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:00 PM
>>    >>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>    >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>    >>>
>>    >>> Since I was sighted until I was 64 years old, Braille is
>> really not so
>>    >>> appealing to me. I am sure if I learned it as a child, that
>> would be
>>    >>> very
>>    >>> different. Right now, I want to do things in theleast amount
>> of time
>>    >>> possible, and I can see that really learning Braille would
>> take so much
>>    >>> time, and at my age, it is just so much more efficient to use
>> technology
>>    >>> for
>>    >>> everything. I am almost 67 now, so have had to learn so much
>> in a short
>>    >>> time, I just decided not to do this. Lynda
>>    >>> Lynda Lambert
>>    >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>    >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>    >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>    >>> From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
>>    >>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>>    >>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:33 PM
>>    >>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>    >>>
>>    >>>
>>    >>>> Did you ever think of a note taker.  Then you would have
>> voice and
>>    >>>> refreshable braille.  The braille is more distinct than regular
>>    >>>> braille.
>>    >>>> If you were in dought of a symbol, you could check it with
>> the speech.
>>    >>>> I
>>    >>>> have been reading braille since second grade and do not know
>> where I
>>    >>>> would
>>    >>>> be with out it.  I love braille.
>>    >>>> I have my helmit pattern on the computer and one embossed
>> copy at home.
>>    >>>> If the braille copy gets lost or damaged, I can emboss
>> another copy to
>>    >>>> follow.
>>    >>>> It is only recently, I am learning to emboss, and I love it!
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Terry P.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>    >>>> From: slery [mailto:slerythema at insightbb.com]
>>    >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:09 PM
>>    >>>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>    >>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Braille was RE: needles
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Ah, Lynda. Braille works amazingly well with electronics. As
>> a very
>>    >>>> visual
>>    >>>> learner, I find it so much easier to "read" something in
>> braille that I
>>    >>>> need to know specifics on than it is to listen to it.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> I currently braille out my patterns for knitting. I cut apart
>> each of
>>    >>>> the
>>    >>>> lines and keep them on a ring that I can flip through. A
>> paper clip
>>    >>>> marks
>>    >>>> which line I am on in case I drop them or they flip around in
>> my bag.
>>    >>>> Personally, I would go crazy if I had to knit listening to an
>> audio
>>    >>>> version of the pattern.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>> Cindy S.
>>    >>>>
>>    >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>    >>>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>    >>>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> River
>>    >>>>> Woman
>>    >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:26 PM
>>    >>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>    >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>    >>>>>
>>    >>>>>
>>    >>>>> Eileen,
>>    >>>>> Mostly, it is when I have dropped a stitch that I get messed
>> up and
>>    >>>>> have not been able to recover it. Then, I take it to the gym
>> where my
>>    >>>>> friend fixes it for me. I do want to be able to do this again by
>>    >>>>> myself. I gave up on Braille as I just do not see it as
>> something that
>>    >>>>> I need to do. I learned the alpahabet and then took course 1
>> through
>>    >>>>> Hadley, and then into course 2 decided it was a waste of my
>> time since
>>    >>>>> I do everything with electronics. Lynda Lynda Lambert River Road
>>    >>>>> Studio, Since
>>    >>>>> 1976 www.lyndalambert.com
>>    >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>    >>>>> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
>>    >>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>    >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:56 PM
>>    >>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>    >>>>>
>>    >>>>>
>>    >>>>> >I had partial sight for a very long time, but I was never
>>    >>>>> able to see
>>    >>>>> >well  enough to see knitting when I learned it -- so I guess
>>    >>>>> I got used to using
>>    >>>>> > touch to know what I was doing.   If you practice, it isn't
>>    >>>>> hard to feel
>>    >>>>> > what is going on.  I consider myself very visual as I
>> visualize the
>>    >>>>> > stitches in my mind, but I identify them by touch.
>>    >>>>> > I'm sure you can do it it (I'm a lousy braille reader, and
>>    >>>>> I have a hard
>>    >>>>> > time identify tactile graphics and pictures, but with
>>    >>>>> knitting, I know
>>    >>>>> > what
>>    >>>>> > it is supposed to look like, and so it isn't hard to find
>>    >>>>> where I am and
>>    >>>>> > what needs to be done.)
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> > Happy krafting.
>>    >>>>> > --le
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>    >>>>> > From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>    >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>    >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:39 PM
>>    >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> > Hi Eileen,
>>    >>>>> > I have been an avid knitter for many years, since about 8
>>    >>>>> years old.
>>    >>>>> > But since my sight loss, I have not ventured into the hard
>>    >>>>> stuff, as I
>>    >>>>> > do not know how to FIX a mistake and have to take it to a
>>    >>>>> friend for
>>    >>>>> > help. Before , I used to be able to fix most anyting, but
>>    >>>>> not now. So,
>>    >>>>> > I need to begin to be more adventurous and this will get
>> me going.
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> > I live in a rural area, no local yarn shops - closest one
>>    >>>>> is 30 miles
>>    >>>>> > away.
>>    >>>>> > I will probably order one on line.
>>    >>>>> > Do you have a date for the class - so I can put it on my
>>    >>>>> calendar. And, if
>>    >>>>> > I
>>    >>>>> > need to do anything before the class to be prepared, please
>>    >>>>> let me know.
>>    >>>>> > When will we sign up for the class, do you know?
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> > Lynda
>>    >>>>> > Lynda Lambert
>>    >>>>> > River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>    >>>>> > www.lyndalambert.com
>>    >>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>    >>>>> > From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>>    >>>>> > To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>    >>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    >>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 2:11 PM
>>    >>>>> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> >
>>    >>>>> >> Lynda:
>>    >>>>> >>
>>    >>>>> >> You can sometimes get the size 000 needles at local yarn
>>    >>>>> shops, but
>>    >>>>> >> they might have to special order them for you.  They are
>>    >>>>> used mostly
>>    >>>>> >> for lace knitting and with very fine yarn so I suppose
>>    >>>>> this frightens
>>    >>>>> >> a lot of people away from them.  I suppose to that since they
>>    >>>>> >> probably aren't huge sellers yarn shops don't normaly
>>    >>>>> stock them.  If
>>    >>>>> >> your local yarn shop can't get them then go through
>>    >>>>> Pattern Works.
>>    >>>>> >> We will not actually be knitting with them, but I find
>>    >>>>> them to be a
>>    >>>>> >> useful tool in a number of ways.
>>    >>>>> >>
>>    >>>>> >> Eileen
>>    >>>>> >>
>>    >>>>> >> --------------------------------------------------
>>    >>>>> >> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
>>    >>>>> >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:55 AM
>>    >>>>> >> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>    >>>>> >> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>    >>>>> >>
>>    >>>>> >>> Size 000, OH My Word!  That is downright frightening. I
>> am up for
>>    >>>>> >>> it...haha. Will get the needls and thatns for the heads
>> up in
>>    >>>>> >>> advance. Lynda
>>    >>>>> >>>
>>    >>>>> >>> Lynda Lambert
>>    >>>>> >>> River Road Studio, Since 1976
>>    >>>>> >>> www.lyndalambert.com
>>    >>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>    >>>>> >>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>    >>>>> >>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>    >>>>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 11:18 AM
>>    >>>>> >>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] needles
>>    >>>>> >>>
>>    >>>>> >>>
>>    >>>>> >>>>I know I am jumping the gun here, but Eileen is giving a
>> class in
>>    >>>>> >>>>September  on how to do a life line.  Patternworks does
>> have the
>>    >>>>> >>>>needle she is  suggesting and I thought if anyone was
>>    >>>>> poking around
>>    >>>>> >>>>a yarn shop this  summer and
>>    >>>>> >>>> wanted to check picking one of these up I would give you
>>    >>>>> the info:
>>    >>>>> >>>>
>>    >>>>> >>>> Abbey 40 inch circular needle size 000   price is: $18
>>    >>>>> >>>>
>>    >>>>> >>>>
>>    >>>>> >>>>
>>    >>>>> >>>> Joyce  Kane
>>    >>>>> >>>> www.KraftersKorner.org  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>    >>>>> >>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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