[Nfb-krafters-korner] So cool!

Mon Nov 22 15:32:04 UTC 2010

Becky:

What happened to you is outrageouse.  One of those horror stories I suspect 
a lot of us have experienced  on some level ... a situation where you go out 
expecting to have a good time or a positive experience and you get nothing 
but frustration & left feeling bad about it.  Hope you're able to iron it 
all out with a positive ending and happy memories of a good learning 
experience!! <SMILE>

In thinking about it, the one thing I can come close to relating to it is 
going out for a dinner with my guide dog and then apon arriving being told 
no dogs allowed! Huh!  Kind of kills the evening out.  I did not mean to 
downplay what happened to you in my last message.

Good luck in teaching your teacher how to interact with other people.

Eileen

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From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:48 AM
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] So cool!

> This gal tried to put us off, well my husband off.  He finally had to call
> 4H and they talked to her about fulfilling her gift we paid for.  My 
> husband
> won't take no for an answer.  She put him off one to many times.  So 
> January
> is our next time to get together.She set that not me, smile.  She seems to
> want to work with me.  She was shocked that I knit.  She went on and on 
> how
> her nine year old daughter knits.  She made me a little gift of a 
> necklace.
> I will bring her a little gift when I go next time. I will entice her if 
> she
> puts me off.  Hey this old dog ain't dumb, giggle.  I will have to ask my
> driver what colors she has.  I noticed no little decorative pillows on her
> couch. I have a little lumbar blow up pillow here still in the bag.  I 
> will
> make a pretty pocket for it that looks like a decorative pillow.
>
> Becky sending hugs all around, and Jake
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of River Woman
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 5:34 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] So cool!
>
> Most people have no clue what to do with a blind person or how to teach
> them. Most have never encountered a blind person up close and personal, I
> think. I was very worried about this same thing when I went with my friend
> to my first pottery class right after I lost my sight three years ago. 
> She
> had no clue I could not see during the class. Afterwards, I waited till 
> the
> others had left, and I told the teacher "I don't see very well, and may 
> need
>
> a bit of extra help."  Of course, she had no idea how much I don't see, 
> till
>
> later classes. I was very lucky, my teacher turned out to be a true 
> teacher
> who has the interests of each of her students in mind when she teaches. I 
> am
>
> still with her and we are creating wonderful things because she became my
> mentor and is so proud of what I make in her classes. When I have my first
> solo show next year, as a ceramic artist, she says she is bring a bus full
> of people to the opening of the show. But, this is certainly not typical.
>
> I have to say  during my years of teaching in the college I had two
> experiences with blind students. they were very negative experiences but 
> it
> was the only view I had of blind people and how they behave, or not.
>
> They were horrible people. They expected everything and everyone to stop 
> and
>
> take care of their needs - came to class late, disturbed other students in
> the lecture hall by coming in 20 minuted into the lecture, then shoving 
> down
>
> the row to get to their seat with no concern about how disturbing this is 
> to
>
> everyone else, 200 people, who were there on time and doing their work.
>
> Another blind student came on my trip to Austria which was always a month
> long. She created so many distractions, and there were constant problems 
> to
> the point that the tour director had to send her back home a week early 
> for
> her own safety.
> This was my view of blind people - and when I lost my sight I made sure 
> that
>
> I would never, ever, be a person like these two are and that I would be
> considerate of others and never make demands but learn to be part of the
> group as a peer.
> No college professor is trained to know how to deal with handicapped
> students, that I know of. We are trained to work within our discipline and
> have no clue as to hlow to help people with disabilities. I have had other
> students with disabilities far worse than the two blind students and they
> were fabulous students, did their work, came to class on time, and did not
> use their disabilities as an excuse for doing nothing. The two blind
> students used their blindness as a reason to do nothing and expected 
> special
>
> compensations all the time. It was a horrible experience to have them in 
> my
> classes, and other profs. had the same situations with them. Later, I
> learned the one had been this way even at the blind rehab school.
>
> I think as a blind person now that I need to be aware that the people with
> whom I am in contact do not know how or what to do with us, and it is up 
> to
> us to lead the way and help them to help us - but with dignity, not by
> demands or unrealistic expectations on the teacher.
>
> Lynda River Woman
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lauren Merryfield" <lauren1 at catliness.com>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 12:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] So cool!
>
>
>> Hi,
>> That is neat/cool!  I hope the lady doesn't try to keep you from coming
>> back.  I had that happen once at a jewelry-making event when I showed up
>> as a blind person.  There were 3 sessions and she kept putting off the 
>> 2nd
>
>> and 3rd sessions because of my blindness.  Well, because of her attitude
>> about the blindness.
>> Thanks
>> Lauren
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Becky Frankeberger" <b.butterfly at comcast.net>
>> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'"
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 7:09 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] So cool!
>>
>>
>>> My husband gave me a wonderful gift.  He bought me at a fund raiser at 
>>> 4H
>
>>> a
>>> class on how to bend silver wire to make jewelry.  Isn't that sweet,
>>> smile.
>>> So my friend Molly and I drove to this lady's palatial home.  We started
>>> off
>>> with snacks.  Then we got into some of the silver wire jewelry I could
>>> make
>>> with her.  However snow fell like crazy and my driver got nervous.  So 
>>> we
>>> decided to come back another time for the actual lesson and dinner.
>>> There
>>> were other things she hinted at doing, but it will have to wait until
>>> next
>>> year as she is very busy.
>>>
>>> She was definitely put off that I am blind.  As we talked and related
>>> stories, she relaxed and we had a marvelous visit, though short.
>>>
>>> Lauri she makes her own clasps.  They look like part of the actual 
>>> piece.
>>> Think of a sideways J, but the J has an extra curly Q.   The metal loop
>>> goes
>>> through the J opening and rests at the other rounded end.  It looks 
>>> super
>>> secure.  Anyway, I am told they are easily made.  My friend has the
>>> bending
>>> tool.  We will see how it goes.
>>>
>>> I am just so excited to learn this new craft, smile.
>>>
>>> When I got home my husband called a friend of his on a matter.  My
>>> husband
>>> mentioned I have a purple, lilac, and white throw for sell.  His friend
>>> wanted a description, and then asked how much.  The throw is now sold,
>>> smile. Guess I better finish the edging, giggle.
>>>
>>> Becky and the snow pup Jake
>>>
>>>
>>>
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