[Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times

Fri Jan 7 15:38:22 UTC 2011

I agree with that.  I also believe that if you are recording people and then
disbursing those recordings.  There needs to be an agreement from the
persons who have been recorded as to where the recordings are disbursed.  I
believe that is covered under a Federal law.

 Dixie
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-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:06 AM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times

Cindy:

Regarding the ownership of the recorded materials that is not a board's 
decision to make.  It will be determined through the copyright, and 
ownership laws of the U.S.  It is much larger than the control of the board 
of this division.  And as a blind crafts person, in the way this episode has

been handled by a so called "creative/artistic" group that is supposed to 
support the blind craftsperson & artist, you are ripping off the blind 
individual and stealing materials that do not belong to the division, but 
that have been developed and presented by a blind individual.

Eileen
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From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:35 AM
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times

> Eileen,
>
> I am NOT speaking for the board in this message. However, I want to assure
> you that your questions and complaints have not fallen on deaf ears. As 
> you
> stated, the leadership needs to make the final decision. Until that 
> decision
> is made, you cannot receive an answer. The board does not meet daily or
> weekly, so a decision cannot be made within a single day.
>
> You will be contacted when things are finalized.
>
> As to Joyce's comment about wanting to hear from the instructors, you are
> only one instructor and we want to know why the other instructors or
> potential instructors are not joining the discussion because it doesn't
> matter what time students would like classes if there are no instructors
> available to teach them at alternate times.
>
> This topic was started as a way to hear from the membership and create a
> list of times that we might be able to fill in the future. No one on the
> board or in the division expects you as ONE instructor to find a way to 
> fill
> all of these times. You have been a great instructor and provided a 
> valuable
> resource to this division. There have been many students that have 
> benefited
> from your classes.
>
> Cindy S.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Eileen Scrivani
>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:43 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
>>
>>
>> Joyce:
>>
>> besides seneding you three private emails on this topic, I am
>> an instructor
>> who has posted thoughts on the subject of class recordings,
>> but my messages
>> to the divison leadeership has fallen on deaf ears.
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:04 PM
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
>>
>> > I am back online with JAWS working 100% so now I can reply to the
>> > emails.
>> >
>> > After listening to all the email regarding classes and after
>> > discussing this with the board members of the NFB Krafters
>> Division I
>> > would like others to  know our thoughts.
>> >
>> > We defintely have grown and spread not only within the USA,
>> but around
>> > the globe.  We want to continue our growth and bring
>> Krafters Korner
>> > every where there is a need for  us to learn, share and teach each
>> > other the crafting skills of this group.
>> >
>> > With all that has been said it has proven that we need more
>> classes at
>> > different times.  After saying that we have the ability of
>> doing these
>> > classes, recording them and having students interact live with the
>> > teacher and other students.  Now we need to find a way to
>> do this at
>> > different times to
>> > include more people around the World.  We have heard from
>> friends in
>> > India,
>> > Australia, New Zealan, Canada and Alaska that have taken or
>> would love to
>> > take a  class, but the timing is not great for them.  I ask
>> each one of
>> > you to
>> > seriously think about what you would like from Krafters
>> Korner and if one
>> > of  your answers are take classes like others, then I ask
>> you to please
>> > contact me  off list.  _Blindhands at aol.com_
>> (mailto:Blindhands at aol.com)
>> > I would like to work with you to make this happen.
>> >
>> > While this conversation went on there was not much comments
>> being made
>> > from
>> > our teachers regarding this and I would also like to hear from the
>> > teachers off  list.  We do have teachers living in
>> different time zones
>> > and maybe
>> > some of  them would be willing to try different times for
>> classes.  I need
>> > to
>> > hear  from the teachers.
>> >
>> > The question has been brought up why and who picked classes to be
>> > during the week starting at 8 p.m.  When Krafters Korner
>> first started
>> > out the list was small and most folks were living on the East coast
>> > and Central time
>> > zone.  Laurie Porter did our first class and it was a
>> beading class.   I
>> > had
>> > asked  our list people what time and weekend or during the
>> week would
>> > be best and that is how we started out.  We did try classes on the
>> > weekend during the day and in the evening and in the evening during
>> > the week.  We  had more folks show up for a class in the evening
>> > during the week.  When classes
>> > began we would maybe have 3or 4 and maybe 5 people at a
>> class.   That did
>> > include the teacher and me in those numbers.  Now look at
>> the  attendence
>> > of a
>> > class.
>> >
>> > So please contact me off list and let's work together to
>> develop this
>> > further.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Joyce  Kane
>> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
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