[Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times

Dixie blueherons at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jan 7 18:12:26 UTC 2011 

So, am I correct in understanding that then this means that the classes
taught by our teachers that have been recorded will not be distributed or
sold elsewhere ?  Correct?




 Dixie
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-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of slery
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 12:48 PM
To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times

Recordings are only disbursed to students attending the class. This has been
discussed many times on the list when people say that they can't attend a
particular class.

Cindy S.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dixie
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:38 AM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
> 
> 
> I agree with that.  I also believe that if you are recording 
> people and then disbursing those recordings.  There needs to 
> be an agreement from the persons who have been recorded as to 
> where the recordings are disbursed.  I believe that is 
> covered under a Federal law.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Dixie
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Eileen Scrivani
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 10:06 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
> 
> Cindy:
> 
> Regarding the ownership of the recorded materials that is not 
> a board's 
> decision to make.  It will be determined through the copyright, and 
> ownership laws of the U.S.  It is much larger than the 
> control of the board 
> of this division.  And as a blind crafts person, in the way 
> this episode has
> 
> been handled by a so called "creative/artistic" group that is 
> supposed to 
> support the blind craftsperson & artist, you are ripping off 
> the blind 
> individual and stealing materials that do not belong to the 
> division, but 
> that have been developed and presented by a blind individual.
> 
> Eileen
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:35 AM
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
> 
> > Eileen,
> >
> > I am NOT speaking for the board in this message. However, I want to 
> > assure you that your questions and complaints have not 
> fallen on deaf 
> > ears. As you stated, the leadership needs to make the final 
> decision. 
> > Until that decision
> > is made, you cannot receive an answer. The board does not 
> meet daily or
> > weekly, so a decision cannot be made within a single day.
> >
> > You will be contacted when things are finalized.
> >
> > As to Joyce's comment about wanting to hear from the 
> instructors, you 
> > are only one instructor and we want to know why the other 
> instructors 
> > or potential instructors are not joining the discussion because it 
> > doesn't matter what time students would like classes if 
> there are no 
> > instructors available to teach them at alternate times.
> >
> > This topic was started as a way to hear from the membership 
> and create 
> > a list of times that we might be able to fill in the 
> future. No one on 
> > the board or in the division expects you as ONE instructor 
> to find a 
> > way to fill all of these times. You have been a great 
> instructor and 
> > provided a valuable
> > resource to this division. There have been many students that have 
> > benefited
> > from your classes.
> >
> > Cindy S.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Eileen 
> >> Scrivani
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:43 PM
> >> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
> >>
> >>
> >> Joyce:
> >>
> >> besides seneding you three private emails on this topic, I am an 
> >> instructor who has posted thoughts on the subject of class 
> >> recordings, but my messages
> >> to the divison leadeership has fallen on deaf ears.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:04 PM
> >> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> >> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
> >>
> >> > I am back online with JAWS working 100% so now I can 
> reply to the 
> >> > emails.
> >> >
> >> > After listening to all the email regarding classes and after 
> >> > discussing this with the board members of the NFB Krafters
> >> Division I
> >> > would like others to  know our thoughts.
> >> >
> >> > We defintely have grown and spread not only within the USA,
> >> but around
> >> > the globe.  We want to continue our growth and bring
> >> Krafters Korner
> >> > every where there is a need for  us to learn, share and 
> teach each 
> >> > other the crafting skills of this group.
> >> >
> >> > With all that has been said it has proven that we need more
> >> classes at
> >> > different times.  After saying that we have the ability of
> >> doing these
> >> > classes, recording them and having students interact 
> live with the 
> >> > teacher and other students.  Now we need to find a way to
> >> do this at
> >> > different times to
> >> > include more people around the World.  We have heard from
> >> friends in
> >> > India,
> >> > Australia, New Zealan, Canada and Alaska that have taken or
> >> would love to
> >> > take a  class, but the timing is not great for them.  I ask
> >> each one of
> >> > you to
> >> > seriously think about what you would like from Krafters
> >> Korner and if one
> >> > of  your answers are take classes like others, then I ask
> >> you to please
> >> > contact me  off list.  _Blindhands at aol.com_
> >> (mailto:Blindhands at aol.com)
> >> > I would like to work with you to make this happen.
> >> >
> >> > While this conversation went on there was not much comments
> >> being made
> >> > from
> >> > our teachers regarding this and I would also like to 
> hear from the 
> >> > teachers off  list.  We do have teachers living in
> >> different time zones
> >> > and maybe
> >> > some of  them would be willing to try different times for
> >> classes.  I need
> >> > to
> >> > hear  from the teachers.
> >> >
> >> > The question has been brought up why and who picked 
> classes to be 
> >> > during the week starting at 8 p.m.  When Krafters Korner
> >> first started
> >> > out the list was small and most folks were living on the 
> East coast 
> >> > and Central time zone.  Laurie Porter did our first class and it 
> >> > was a
> >> beading class.   I
> >> > had
> >> > asked  our list people what time and weekend or during the
> >> week would
> >> > be best and that is how we started out.  We did try 
> classes on the 
> >> > weekend during the day and in the evening and in the 
> evening during 
> >> > the week.  We  had more folks show up for a class in the evening 
> >> > during the week.  When classes began we would maybe have 
> 3or 4 and 
> >> > maybe 5 people at a
> >> class.   That did
> >> > include the teacher and me in those numbers.  Now look at
> >> the  attendence
> >> > of a
> >> > class.
> >> >
> >> > So please contact me off list and let's work together to
> >> develop this
> >> > further.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Joyce  Kane
> >> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/) 
> >> > Blindhands at AOL.com 
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