[Nfb-krafters-korner] Treasurer's reports was: classes and times

Fri Jan 7 20:44:44 UTC 2011

so do we.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gail Smith" <mail.gailsmith at gmail.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Treasurer's reports was: classes and 
times


>I agree that it is a reasonable request to have monthly or quarterly 
>general
> organizational meetings  for the Krafters Korner.  The other division in 
> the
> NFB that I am interested in has open board meetings on a conference call.
> The board conducts their business without any interference and then the
> floor is open to the members for comments or questions.  There is a report
> from the secretary and the treasurer.  The whole group, board and other
> members are working for a common gold.
>
> Gail
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dixie" <blueherons at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Treasurer's reports was: classes and
> times
>
>
> I am the treasurer of the Connecticut Council of the Blind.  I am required
> to make a monthly statement of the treasury, receipts and disbursements. 
> I
> think that this is a reasonable request.  I also think that this is a
> reasonable request to have monthly or quarterly general organizational
> meetings for the membership.
>
>
>
>
> Dixie
> ~  @-> ~ <-@  ~
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eileen 
> Scrivani
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 9:44 AM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
>
> Cindy:
>
> I've been a paid up dues member of this division & a volunteer instructor
> since just about its beginning.  I think it will be 3 years this summer 
> and
> in all that time I have never seen any mention of open board meetings and
> maybe saw only one of the board meeting reports about 2 years ago that was
> written up by Audrey as Secretary for the division.  Another two people on
> this list  has called it to my attention, something I was not aware of and
> something the board for this group does not make publically known is that
> all NFB board meetings for I think all the divisions are open and any 
> member
>
> can attend and be a part of the process.  The Nagdu division, has monthly
> meetings (it is a national division so they do it by phone) and they make
> announcements on their list asking if members have questions they would 
> like
>
> to discuss during the phone meeting.  In other words, all the members are
> invited to be active participants.  With that said, why wasn't the phone
> number for the Krafters division meeting posted and the offer of having as
> many members attend as wanted to?  If I had been allowed to participate in
> the meeting of the other night I would have been there and know there are
> other instructors with similar concerns that would have attended.
>
> Additionally, in the 3 years I've been a dues paying member, I have never
> nor has anyone else who is just a member seen a treasurer's report, no
> report on how many people are signed up to this list no report on how many
> of the members are paying dues, no report on classes that have been 
> offered,
>
> no report on itemized expenses for the group.  Just no reporting of any
> kind. A little verbal mention on a Monday night chat, by the way is not a
> report nor a substitute for a board meeting.  So after 3 years of paying
> dues, how much money is in the Krafters Korners Division's treasury and 
> what
>
> is it being spent on?  If you don't have that information off the top of
> your head or other leadership does not know the answers off the tops of
> their heads, then where are the written records in accessible format so 
> that
>
> members can find this information out?   Any organization that collects
> money must be above and beyond question and there is an obligation to 
> report
>
> openly & honestly on where the money is going and how much of it there is.
> These are serious concerns that all need to be addressed openly & 
> publically
>
> for division members.
>
> When exactly and how frequently are board meetings held?  What is the 
> phone
> number so that members can participate and have a say in what goes on? 
> When
>
> was the last time this board for this group met?  When is the next board
> meeting date & time?  I think what ever went on in Wednesday's night 
> meeting
>
> was a fraud because yes it was behind closed doors and not at all
> democratic, but very dictatorial.
>
> Thanks for the openness and honesty.
>
> Eileen
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "slery" <slerythema at insightbb.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 3:35 AM
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
>
>> Eileen,
>>
>> I am NOT speaking for the board in this message. However, I want to 
>> assure
>> you that your questions and complaints have not fallen on deaf ears. As
>> you
>> stated, the leadership needs to make the final decision. Until that
>> decision
>> is made, you cannot receive an answer. The board does not meet daily or
>> weekly, so a decision cannot be made within a single day.
>>
>> You will be contacted when things are finalized.
>>
>> As to Joyce's comment about wanting to hear from the instructors, you are
>> only one instructor and we want to know why the other instructors or
>> potential instructors are not joining the discussion because it doesn't
>> matter what time students would like classes if there are no instructors
>> available to teach them at alternate times.
>>
>> This topic was started as a way to hear from the membership and create a
>> list of times that we might be able to fill in the future. No one on the
>> board or in the division expects you as ONE instructor to find a way to
>> fill
>> all of these times. You have been a great instructor and provided a
>> valuable
>> resource to this division. There have been many students that have
>> benefited
>> from your classes.
>>
>> Cindy S.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Eileen Scrivani
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:43 PM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
>>>
>>>
>>> Joyce:
>>>
>>> besides seneding you three private emails on this topic, I am
>>> an instructor
>>> who has posted thoughts on the subject of class recordings,
>>> but my messages
>>> to the divison leadeership has fallen on deaf ears.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 4:04 PM
>>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes and times
>>>
>>> > I am back online with JAWS working 100% so now I can reply to the
>>> > emails.
>>> >
>>> > After listening to all the email regarding classes and after
>>> > discussing this with the board members of the NFB Krafters
>>> Division I
>>> > would like others to  know our thoughts.
>>> >
>>> > We defintely have grown and spread not only within the USA,
>>> but around
>>> > the globe.  We want to continue our growth and bring
>>> Krafters Korner
>>> > every where there is a need for  us to learn, share and teach each
>>> > other the crafting skills of this group.
>>> >
>>> > With all that has been said it has proven that we need more
>>> classes at
>>> > different times.  After saying that we have the ability of
>>> doing these
>>> > classes, recording them and having students interact live with the
>>> > teacher and other students.  Now we need to find a way to
>>> do this at
>>> > different times to
>>> > include more people around the World.  We have heard from
>>> friends in
>>> > India,
>>> > Australia, New Zealan, Canada and Alaska that have taken or
>>> would love to
>>> > take a  class, but the timing is not great for them.  I ask
>>> each one of
>>> > you to
>>> > seriously think about what you would like from Krafters
>>> Korner and if one
>>> > of  your answers are take classes like others, then I ask
>>> you to please
>>> > contact me  off list.  _Blindhands at aol.com_
>>> (mailto:Blindhands at aol.com)
>>> > I would like to work with you to make this happen.
>>> >
>>> > While this conversation went on there was not much comments
>>> being made
>>> > from
>>> > our teachers regarding this and I would also like to hear from the
>>> > teachers off  list.  We do have teachers living in
>>> different time zones
>>> > and maybe
>>> > some of  them would be willing to try different times for
>>> classes.  I need
>>> > to
>>> > hear  from the teachers.
>>> >
>>> > The question has been brought up why and who picked classes to be
>>> > during the week starting at 8 p.m.  When Krafters Korner
>>> first started
>>> > out the list was small and most folks were living on the East coast
>>> > and Central time
>>> > zone.  Laurie Porter did our first class and it was a
>>> beading class.   I
>>> > had
>>> > asked  our list people what time and weekend or during the
>>> week would
>>> > be best and that is how we started out.  We did try classes on the
>>> > weekend during the day and in the evening and in the evening during
>>> > the week.  We  had more folks show up for a class in the evening
>>> > during the week.  When classes
>>> > began we would maybe have 3or 4 and maybe 5 people at a
>>> class.   That did
>>> > include the teacher and me in those numbers.  Now look at
>>> the  attendence
>>> > of a
>>> > class.
>>> >
>>> > So please contact me off list and let's work together to
>>> develop this
>>> > further.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Joyce  Kane
>>> > _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
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