[Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New Concept!

Sun Jan 9 15:55:14 UTC 2011

GREAT IDEA.  As Greg pointed out, the subject line indicates that discussion 
topic. If it is something you are interested in, you can go there. If not, 
skip it.  This was what I mean last week when I told Greg that changing the 
subject line on the looms would enable ssomeone to find what they wanted to 
discuss and it was nevermeant as a criticism. I was agreeing, and 
commenting.

Any written communication is exactly that - a communication. It all has a 
voice. It can uplift someone or it can be like a beam slamming down on a 
person and trying to quiet their voice.

Lynda River Woman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laura White" <lewhite86 at gmail.com>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New Concept!

Honestly, in my humble opinion I have been wondering why we haven't
had classes via skipe for some time now.
Also this brings up the thoughts at least in my head of a discussion
board and not just an email list.
I feel like these issues are growing pains of any group and we will
get them resolved.   One thing I hope to see in future  is a message
board if we can manage it.  That way each individual thread of talk
doesn't need to always come to our emails.

Laura

On 1/9/11, Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net> wrote:
> Greg:
>
> Let me be perfectly clear, on the fact that I have never asked for nor
> expected any type of monitary benefit from this group for my time given to
> the membership in teaching them knitting skills.  I have done it from my
> heart because, yes I have truely enjoyed working with all  those in my
> classes.  I am not nor was I looking for "pay back. or my voluntary 
> teaching
> time"  That is not even an issue for me.  Another thing I find disturbing 
> in
> all of this is that there has been emails on the list from the president 
> as
> well as in a phone conversation I had with her on Friday afternoon, in 
> which
> she made it very clear to me that she was the person during the board
> meeting of Wednesday night, Jan 5, that she brought up the idea of and
> promoted for some kind of monitary reward to be given to instructors.  We
> now know from Audrey's email to the list that it was in fact Audrey who
> brought that to the floor and not the president.  Further in the end it 
> was
> never passed as something that was resolved.  In my cconversation I was 
> not
> lead to believe it was going to not happen.  It very much sounded to me 
> that
> it was a done deal.  Again, I'm not looking for payment, my time is
> voluntary, but I do expect the truth from people and not to be misled in a
> conversation.
>
>
> Second, while it is my pleasure to volunteer to teach, it is not my 
> consent
> nor desire to have class materials that I have developed and created &
> written gifted to the NFB nor the NFB Krafters Korner for their financial
> benefit.  Again this important and concerning question goes unanswered.  I
> must ask myself why?  The only answer I can come up with is that while I 
> sit
> and wait patiently for this divisions board to get back to me with what
> should be an easy & reasonable answer is that it is taking this amount of
> time because behind the scenes they have elevated it to the National 
> level,
> getting legal input on where they stand in attempting to claim my 
> materials
> for their own.   Can I a small not independantly wealthy person be 
> expected
> to retain a law team to fight them in this case?  What kind of 
> organization
> is the NFB that they would do this?  So unfair, so unethical it is beyond
> beleif.
>
> Eileen
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "NCBootman" <ncbootman at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 8:15 AM
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New Concept!
>
>> I have a new idea! Krafter’s Corner is a great group and I am not
>> suggesting we change ANYTHING! But, maybe we have become to focused on 
>> our
>>
>> wonderful and valuable phone service for classes. There is a need and
>> always will be a need for this kind of enteraction. But, quite frankly, 
>> it
>>
>> does not meet the needs of everyone. A person has to have long distance
>> access in an affordable way or skype. You have to show up at the
>> designated time even if that’s in the middle of the night where you are.
>> You have to work at the pace of all the other students. And, there are
>> many more comments I have read here!
>>
>> Why are we not using this e-mail list for more than a way to socialize in
>> many cases? Why isn’t a classroom a part of it? What I’d like to propose
>> is that we all Me included start labeling the message very carefully and
>> start doing more how-to stuff right here! If I’m not interested in a
>> topic, I simply can skip those posts. An example of this is that it has
>> been suggested I start some crochet instruction. If I take the time to
>> write a coherent lesson plan and explanation which I would need for a
>> phone class, I can post that here. Then, if you want to do it, you can
>> give it a try, e-mail a question for all to see and learn from, I 
>> respond,
>>
>> and on and on till we all learn. Somebody can read that anytime. If
>> somebody comes along a year from now and wants to read that material, 
>> they
>>
>> can search for a specific Subject and read all about it. I learn to 
>> teach.
>>
>> I learn to write a Good lesson plan. I give of myself and not just take
>> from the group. I freely give that instruction because I want to and not
>> as a job. It’s my fun time and not a professional time that I owe 
>> anybody.
>>
>> These are a few of the benefits.
>>
>> These are some of my thoughts. Are others interested in doing something
>> like this in addition to all that we already do? Is there a reason that 
>> it
>>
>> won’t work?
>>
>> Greg
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