[Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New Concept!

Sun Jan 9 16:22:50 UTC 2011

Eileen,

Stop. Reread my post. Set aside your concerns. Listen to what I yes I had to 
say about Me. I did not mention your concerns. I did not mention anyone 
other than me. I am not getting involved with this arguing and bickering. I 
tried to help and solve a problem. There is a problem for our foreign 
members, our less fortunate members who don't have free unlimited long 
distance, our members who have commitments or obligations, and on and on. If 
this crap continues all the time, the Krafter's Korner will fail and will 
die. Posts have already been written about folks seriously considering 
leaving. If we don't become a positive group working to good, I'll be one of 
them and I won't look back. Not what I want but I have to much negative in 
my life that I can't change. The focus has to get back to crafting and 
building up. I did not say one word negative so don't understand why I was 
sucked into this argument. If anyone wants to stay in contact with me, keep 
my e-mail address. I don't know how much more I'll take before I simply 
start deleting group e-mails for a while or something.

Greg

-----Original Message----- 
From: Eileen Scrivani
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 10:05 AM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New Concept!

Greg:

Let me be perfectly clear, on the fact that I have never asked for nor
expected any type of monitary benefit from this group for my time given to
the membership in teaching them knitting skills.  I have done it from my
heart because, yes I have truely enjoyed working with all  those in my
classes.  I am not nor was I looking for "pay back. or my voluntary teaching
time"  That is not even an issue for me.  Another thing I find disturbing in
all of this is that there has been emails on the list from the president as
well as in a phone conversation I had with her on Friday afternoon, in which
she made it very clear to me that she was the person during the board
meeting of Wednesday night, Jan 5, that she brought up the idea of and
promoted for some kind of monitary reward to be given to instructors.  We
now know from Audrey's email to the list that it was in fact Audrey who
brought that to the floor and not the president.  Further in the end it was
never passed as something that was resolved.  In my cconversation I was not
lead to believe it was going to not happen.  It very much sounded to me that
it was a done deal.  Again, I'm not looking for payment, my time is
voluntary, but I do expect the truth from people and not to be misled in a
conversation.

Second, while it is my pleasure to volunteer to teach, it is not my consent
nor desire to have class materials that I have developed and created &
written gifted to the NFB nor the NFB Krafters Korner for their financial
benefit.  Again this important and concerning question goes unanswered.  I
must ask myself why?  The only answer I can come up with is that while I sit
and wait patiently for this divisions board to get back to me with what
should be an easy & reasonable answer is that it is taking this amount of
time because behind the scenes they have elevated it to the National level,
getting legal input on where they stand in attempting to claim my materials
for their own.   Can I a small not independantly wealthy person be expected
to retain a law team to fight them in this case?  What kind of organization
is the NFB that they would do this?  So unfair, so unethical it is beyond
beleif.

Eileen

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From: "NCBootman" <ncbootman at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 8:15 AM
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] A Whole New Concept!

> I have a new idea! Krafter’s Corner is a great group and I am not 
> suggesting we change ANYTHING! But, maybe we have become to focused on our 
> wonderful and valuable phone service for classes. There is a need and 
> always will be a need for this kind of enteraction. But, quite frankly, it 
> does not meet the needs of everyone. A person has to have long distance 
> access in an affordable way or skype. You have to show up at the 
> designated time even if that’s in the middle of the night where you are. 
> You have to work at the pace of all the other students. And, there are 
> many more comments I have read here!
>
> Why are we not using this e-mail list for more than a way to socialize in 
> many cases? Why isn’t a classroom a part of it? What I’d like to propose 
> is that we all Me included start labeling the message very carefully and 
> start doing more how-to stuff right here! If I’m not interested in a 
> topic, I simply can skip those posts. An example of this is that it has 
> been suggested I start some crochet instruction. If I take the time to 
> write a coherent lesson plan and explanation which I would need for a 
> phone class, I can post that here. Then, if you want to do it, you can 
> give it a try, e-mail a question for all to see and learn from, I respond, 
> and on and on till we all learn. Somebody can read that anytime. If 
> somebody comes along a year from now and wants to read that material, they 
> can search for a specific Subject and read all about it. I learn to teach. 
> I learn to write a Good lesson plan. I give of myself and not just take 
> from the group. I freely give that instruction because I want to and not 
> as a job. It’s my fun time and not a professional time that I owe anybody. 
> These are a few of the benefits.
>
> These are some of my thoughts. Are others interested in doing something 
> like this in addition to all that we already do? Is there a reason that it 
> won’t work?
>
> Greg
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