[Nfb-krafters-korner] Greg, Further History on Pony Beads

AUDREY WELLNER rencraft at snet.net
Mon Jan 10 00:13:01 UTC 2011 

Hi Greg, 
   Although Joyce's information is the more acceptable romanticized rendition of the origin of the "pony" bead I thought you might be interested in reading the deeper historical version written by a man named O.Ned that I respect as a keeper of tradition. If you enjoy historical facts than you'll enjoy reading into this bit of history. 
 
http://www.thefurtrapper.com/trade_beads.htm

  When I lived in West Virginia for almost 3 years, I contracted viral pneumonia quite severely that  lasted over 6 months, rendering me hospitalized and completely bedridden for almost 2 months during its siege. During this time people brought me copies of the West Virginia Highway magazines that I loved to look at. In there was an article on the Mountain Men's Rendezvous and I became so enthralled by the fact that it was going to be held in that state in the spring I was determined to get better so that I might be able to attend. Well the day came and we traveled for many an hour and finally found the encampment on the back fields of some body's large farm (before GPS). There was a hand written sign posted on a tree that stated no vehicles were allowed into the encampment. My hopes fell to the pits of my feet. We had traveled so long it was getting dark and I was so weak that I knew I couldn't walk in. My friend then asked someone if we might have
 special permission and told them of my plight. And that's when it started. It was like peeling back the skins of time. I see a whole bunch of men with muskets scatter as we drove down a tiny dirt road to a small wooden bridge crossing a stream in the middle of no-where. On the other side of the bridge was a small regime of musketed men with a little carriage. I was asked if I could walk across the bridge and I did. We boarded the small carriage and very slowly was escorted into the encampment by the guard. I felt so honored and privileged. They didn't even know me! We passed by an officer's white canvased tent, complete with chandelier, rope bed with feather quilts and a huge traveling chest and were taken to the biggest tepee I've ever seen in my life. 
  The guard announced that there was a traveler wishing to be granted access and it was approved. They parted and I saw in front of me, around a small fire, several mountain men a few Indians with squaws and officers in uniform. I never expected to have been so welcomed and so quickly drawn in by strangers.We spent several hours, talking, singing old camp songs, drinking coffee until the night chill was too much for me to bear. This was definitely the deciding moment for me to go on to becoming for several years, an American Revolution re-enactor and later to go further back in research to taking up membership in the SCA as a 5th century person of Ely, England where I learned a considerable amount about my first name. 
  History is so interesting. 
  Sorry for the long post, thought people would get enjoyment from the reading.
  Audrey Wellner, Secretary 
  Krafters Korner division 
PS Greg, What part of NC are you in. I also spent time in Mars Hill. Back sometime ago I think you mentioned about needing cut cut pieces of yarn used in rug latching or hooking. I've found some I'm not using, can you use them? I've held up offering because I know I have more around here some place and I've been trying to find them. Darn little things are hiding.

--- On Sun, 1/9/11, NCBootman <ncbootman at gmail.com> wrote:


From: NCBootman <ncbootman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pony Beads
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 7:54 AM


Joyce,

Thank you for this bit of research! I had wondered myself why they were 
called pony beads!

Greg

-----Original Message----- 
From: Theresa Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 12:48 AM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pony Beads

Wow that makes sense. I like that. I got to check it out.
Theresa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pony Beads


>I  was just searching the net for pony beads and I don't know where I read
> it, but  it said that pony beads were used by Indians and Early settlers.
> The name  came from them being delivered to the settlers by the Pony 
> Express.
>
> Joyce  Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated 1/8/2011 7:41:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> rencraft at snet.net writes:
>
> Joyce,
> This Pow Wow has been held in the state of CT for years.
> I thought I recall you telling me after you attended this state convention
> that when you inquired about the availability of  classes the person from
> Foxwoods told you that they don't teach weaving  or beading outside their
> Native American tribe or lineage. At least that's  what you told me they 
> said
> or am I wrong?
> Audrey Wellner,  Secretary
> Krafters Korner division
>
> --- On Sat, 1/8/11,  Blindhands at aol.com <Blindhands at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> From:  Blindhands at aol.com <Blindhands at aol.com>
> Subject: Re:  [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pony Beads
> To:  nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 3:18  PM
>
>
> Dixie,
>
> What Pow Wow are you talking about?  Was that  here in CT?
>
> I know that at one of the CT NFB state conventions they had  a person from
> the Foxwood tribe there and they had talked about  blind natives learning
> the
> Indian bead work.  I think they said  something about having a meeting
> place  for beading in Rhode  Island.
>
> I wonder how we can find out more about that?  This  convention was  going
> back several years ago.
>
> Joyce   Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated  1/8/2011 10:58:36 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> blueherons at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Um,  let's see.
>
> A pony  beads about 3/8 inch in diameter as well as  height.  They have a
> 1/4 inch hole, so they are easy to string onto  fabric and cords, and
> things
> with some thickness to it.  I have only  worked with the  plastic ones,
> but,
> do know that there are ceramic ones that I  have  seen in pieces at the
> native
> American Pow Wow  that I have been  to.  Hmmmm, come to think of it, I
> don't
> know if they are stilled  called pony beads  then?  Anyone  know?
>
>
>
>
>
> Dixie
> ~  @-> ~  <-@   ~
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Blindhands at aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 1:38 PM
> To:   nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]  Pony  Beads
>
> Dixie, can you describe what shape a pony bead  is?  They are  larger
> beads
> and have a big enough hole in  them and that is why Girl  Scouts use them 
> a
>
> lot.
>
> Joyce   Kane
> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
> Blindhands at AOL.com
>
>
> In a message dated  1/8/2011  9:33:57 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> blueherons at sbcglobal.net  writes:
>
> I used  to do some fun  beaded bandanas with  pony   beads.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dixie
> ~  @-> ~  <-@    ~
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From:   nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]  On Behalf Of   NCBootman
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011  11:02 AM
> To: List for  blind  crafters and artists
> Subject:  [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pony  Beads
>
> Does  anyone on the list do  any crafts with pony beads? This  is an area 
> I’
> d
> love to   learn  more   about.
>
> Greg
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