[Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line

Thu Jan 12 20:24:28 UTC 2012

I think you are right about where the knitting is done in proximity to the 
hands, fingers. My hands are held high, right up by the breast, and the yarn 
is high up on the needles, away from the tips of the needles.Never thought 
about that before!  Lynda

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line

>I agree!  I grew up using size 10.5.  Never used another size, I do not 
>think, until I joined this group!  See, I can learn, too.
> Terry P.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramona Walhof [mailto:ramona.walhof at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 2:55 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line
>
> Kathy,the life line may be very helppful, but there are some other things 
> that may help as well.  You might want to start with large needles, size 8 
> or ten and worsted weight yarn.  Then it is easier to feel what you are 
> doing.  Sighted people hold their needles lower in their hands than most 
> blind people.  Blind people want their fingers right at the ends too make 
> it easier to feel whatever they are doing.  You may have figured all this 
> out, but not everybody does.  As you well know, the more you knit, the 
> more you notice, but fine yarn, especially if it is fuzzy is harder for 
> someone to get used to feeling what they are doing.
>
> Ramona
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cathy" <flowersandherbs at gmail.com>
> To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line
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>
>> Hi Annette,
>> Oh yes, you explained it beautifully! It makes perfect sense. I am 
>> shaking
>> my head at the simplicity of the concept and the fact that I never 
>> thought
>> of such an idea myself back in the day.
>>
>> When I first joined this list, I mentioned that I'd given up knitting 
>> with
>> needles long ago, given away all my needles, but now, after what you have
>> described, I think for the first time, that perhaps I really could use
>> knitting needles without throwing my work across the room!
>>
>> Thanks for opening up another door for me and your great description of
>> how
>> to use a lifeline.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Annette Carr
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 6:53 AM
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line
>>
>> Hi Cathy and all,
>>
>> Yes, you thread either yarn, string, thread, or a very thin, long 
>> circular
>> needle through your stitches on your needle.  I think when Terry refers 
>> to
>> a
>> cable, she is talking about the cable of a circular needle.  I Sometimes
>> use
>> one of my interchangeable circular needles and take the points off of the
>> cable after threading it through the stitches and put the end caps on the
>> cable so that the cable does not pull out of my work.  I rarely use my
>> interchangeable cables for life lines because it is very think and add 
>> too
>> much bulk inside the stitches while I am trying to knit the next row.  I
>> rarely use thread as I cannot feel where it is and it does not help me
>> find
>> my stitches if I need to pick them up.  So my favorite options are to use
>> yarn or a 00 60 inch circular needle.  Since I only have one 00 circular
>> needle, I end up using a combination of the 00 needle and the yarn.
>>
>> If I am knitting a pattern that is straight knit or alternating knit and
>> pearl rows, I might choose to put the first life line in after I've
>> completed row 10.  I would continue knitting and when I complete row 20 I
>> would put a second life line in.  When I get to row 30 I would pull out
>> the
>> first life line from down in Row 10 and insert it into row 30.  I would
>> continue this leap frog method by next inserting the life line from row 
>> 20
>> into row 40, and so on.
>>
>> If I am working on a pattern that has a lot of yarn overs and knit 2
>> together in the pattern, I do not always insert my life line in at the
>> beginning of the pattern repeat.  I might put it in the last pattern row
>> where I used stitches other than knit or pearl so that if I have to rip
>> back, I do not have to lose my hard work that went into that row.  So let
>> me
>> give an example:
>>
>> If my pattern is Row 1 knit across, Row 2 pearl across, Row 3 pattern, 
>> Row
>> 4
>> pearl, row 5 pattern, row 6 pearl, I would probably insert my life line
>> through my stitches on my needle after I have completed row 5.  I often
>> find
>> it difficult to work a pattern row if the life line is in the row prior.
>> The stitches will be tight because of having both the needle and the life
>> line inside of them.  So I find that by inserting the life line into the
>> row
>> prior to a pearl or knit row, my frustration level is kept to a minimum.
>>
>> I hope this makes sense.
>>
>> Annette
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cathy
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:26 AM
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Wow this knitting lifeline is a really interesting concept to me! I have
>> never heard of it and gave up knitting with needles solely because I 
>> could
>> never pick up my dropped stitches! Now years later I learn that this life
>> line is a preventative to dropping stitches.  So Annette, you knit a row,
>> then thread yarn or a knitting needle in to that row before continuing? 
>> Am
>> I
>> understanding the concept correctly?  Terry you said something about a
>> cable, what do you mean?
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Annette Carr
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:39 PM
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock pattern?
>>
>> I insert my life line into the stitches after I get the row knitted.  I
>> either use a 00 circular needle or a piece of scrap yarn on a needle.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Annette
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melisa 
>> Loutfi
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:23 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock pattern?
>>
>> Teri,
>>
>> I also became blind recently. I am interested in learning the lifeline
>> method that you discussed below. I have used something similar in the 
>> past
>> to preserve stitches before ripping out. I would run a darning needle 
>> with
>> thread  through each stitch in the row below the problem row. Then I 
>> could
>> rip back.
>>
>> In the lifeline method, is the knitter  to insert a cable through a
>> stitches as the row is being knitted as a safety precaution?
>>
>> Melisa Loutfi
>> On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E] wrote:
>>
>>> Linda;
>>> Get your friend to teach you about using a life line so you can take
>>> out
>> errors and not lose your work.  We had some discussion about it, maybe a
>> year or so, ago.  You put a thin cable through your stitches and every 5
>> or
>> 10 stitches, you move the cable up your work, to hold your stitches, 
>> while
>> you work, some more.  If you have to take out stitches, the cable will
>> prevent your stitches from running past that point in your work.
>>> I understand the consept, but am not any good at the method.
>>>
>>> Terry P.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: River Woman [mailto:riverwoman at zoominternet.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 10:28 AM
>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock pattern?
>>>
>>> Though I have been a knitter for about 60 years, doing it
>>> non-visuaolly is an enormous challenge for me. I have a very hard time
>>> even when doing double yarn overs. Right now, I am working on a shawl
>>> that has them every 6th row - and I have quite a few that I have lost
>>> and did not know it till it was too late to work them in - so, on this
>>> shawl, when I am finished, I will put some nice crystal beads here and
>>> there, beginning with all the places where I have lost stitches. I
>>> have tied them with a strand of yarn, and so I know where they are -
>>> when the shawl is done with the knitting part, I will put some
>>> crystals and pearsl here and there all over the shawl. I hope this
>>> will be a nice detail - but it has certainly grown out of my inability
>>> to FIX mistakes. Most mistakes, I cannot fix myself - even afer four
>>> years of working my butt offf to re-learn how to knit again.
>>> Fortunately, I have a very good friend who responds to me calls for
>>> "Knitting Emergency" help. I do not, and never
>> will have that sense of touch that a long time blind person has had since
>> childhood. My brain is still VISUAL, and I imagine it will always be that
>> way. I am still a visual learner regardless of the fact I cannot see what
>> I
>> am knitting.
>>>
>>> I understand all things visually, not through touch. Trying to FIX my
>> knitting boo boos through touch is not working very well at all. I can do
>> it
>> somewhat, but not well.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lovette Yewchan" <lyewchan at telus.net>
>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 10:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock pattern?
>>>
>>>
>>>> I suppose tube socks would work but wondered about the heel ones.  He
>>>> instep picking up etc. sounds too complicate for me at this point.
>>>> Lovette
>>>>
>>>> On 2012-01-09, at 5:11 PM, River Woman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lovette, I have the same dilemma. I  used to make socks whe I could
>>>>> see but now I cannot do it. I would really love to make them again,
>>>>> but I just end up with a mess now - I would love some ideas on how
>>>>> to do them in a way that I could manage. Lynda
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lovette Yewchan"
>>>>> <lyewchan at telus.net>
>>>>> To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 6:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock pattern?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is wool ease size 2.75 MM needles recommended.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2012-01-09, at 10:02 AM, Blindhands at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What type of yarn do you have for these socks?  Without weight of
>>>>>>> yarn no idea what to advise for you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joyce  Kane
>>>>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>>>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 1/9/2012 12:41:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>>> lyewchan at telus.net writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi  there. I have soome sockease wool and want to make socks but
>>>>>>> the pattern on  the paper is too hard for me. DOes someone know of
>>>>>>> a beginner sock pattern  that would not be too hard?  Thanks.
>>>>>>> Lovette
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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