[Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line

River Woman riverwoman at zoominternet.net
Sat Jan 14 13:32:08 UTC 2012


The Collective Unconscious is really how I get problems  resolved and how I 
learn new things most of the time. When I rely on my intuition I have far 
less problems in my life.   lol
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From: "artist" <imanartist at earthlink.net>
To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line


>I think you could call this proprioception.  JoAn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "River Woman" <riverwoman at zoominternet.net>
> To: "List for blind crafters and artists" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line
>
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>> Me, too. I guess it is muscle memory at work - I do find that I often 
>> knit with my eyes closed, too. I hold my needles very high to my chest, 
>> and I knit with the needles pointing away from my chest and tilted up a 
>> bit towards my face. My body remember how to do this and my brain just 
>> doesn't remember that I cannot see. I have battles with my brain, a lot. 
>> lol
>> Lynda
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> To: <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting life line
>>
>>
>>> Yep, I get a neck ache sometimes and then think why do I hold it up 
>>> closer
>>> and bend down to see it.  I do it when I am concentrating more, too.
>>> Habits, they don't go away.
>>>
>>> Joyce  Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_ (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/13/2012 7:26:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> amcarr1 at verizon.net writes:
>>>
>>> Cathy,
>>>
>>> When you are ready to pick up knitting needles again,  we will be here.
>>>
>>> I too enjoyed the discussion.  I found it  interesting about where 
>>> people
>>> held their hands while knitting.  I  find that when I am really
>>> concentrating
>>> hard on working a difficult  pattern, or fixing a mistake I hold my 
>>> hands up
>>> near my chest.  When I  am more relaxed, I hold them lower.  I find that 
>>> I
>>> keep my head tilted  down toward my work even though I can't see what I 
>>> am
>>> doing, and sometimes  my eyes are closed.  I think the closed eyes part 
>>> is
>>> because I am  visualizing in my head what I am  doing.
>>>
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:  nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]  On Behalf Of Cathy
>>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 3:55 PM
>>> To: 'List for  blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] knitting  life line
>>>
>>> I want to thank everyone who chipped in to discuss this  topic. Not just
>>> about the life line and various choices for what to use,  but the use of
>>> needle protectors, stitch markers, and other tips. I believe  now I will
>>> certainly try to knit with needles once again, one of these  days. But 
>>> at
>>> the
>>> moment I have so many things going, I am not certain I can  handle 
>>> another
>>> craft. However, I am certainly tempted to buy some needles  and try 
>>> again
>>> soon.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original  Message-----
>>> From:  nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]  On Behalf Of
>>> Blindhands at aol.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 2:43  PM
>>> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]  knitting life line
>>>
>>> We had gotten these long circular knitting needles  size 00 and a nice 
>>> long
>>> size.  Some of us got it from New Hampshirre  mail order.  I will have 
>>> to
>>> dig around and come up with  info.  The fact is that you want a tthin
>>> knitting needle so it does  not add any thing to your knitting thickness 
>>> of
>>> stitches.  As we  Knitted the row or round with the regular knitting 
>>> needles
>>> you worked the  life line into the row.  You then just left it there and
>>> continued to  knit rounds or rows.  Now if you were working a number of
>>> pattern rows  it was suggested that you determine a number of rows and 
>>> then
>>> move   your life line up.  You do not want to do this every row[too 
>>> time
>>> consuming], but think of it as if a mistake is made you will easily  rip 
>>> out
>>> down  to your life line and then reknit from that point.   You want this
>>> life
>>> line  needle to be longer then the piece of work  you are working with 
>>> so if
>>> you  normally work on say something that  measures 44 inche bust, you 
>>> need a
>>> needle example
>>> 50 or 60 inche  long.  Don't hold me as I do not know common lengths 
>>> of
>>> needles.
>>>
>>> You can use yarn, string or whatever, but the  small 00 circular 
>>> knitting
>>> needle is easy to feel, has points on the needle  part, comes in long 
>>> enough
>>>
>>> lengths and you can use point protectors or  rubber[elastic bands to put 
>>> on
>>> the  ends so stitches will stay  on.
>>>
>>> Joyce  Kane
>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_  (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/12/2012 12:26:50 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
>>> flowersandherbs at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> Hi  all,
>>>
>>> Wow  this knitting lifeline is a really interesting concept to me!  I 
>>> have
>>> never heard of it and gave up knitting with needles solely because  I 
>>> could
>>> never pick up my dropped stitches! Now years later I learn  that this 
>>> life
>>> line is a preventative to dropping stitches.  So  Annette, you  knit a 
>>> row,
>>> then thread yarn or a knitting needle in to  that row before 
>>> continuing? Am
>>> I understanding the concept  correctly?  Terry you said  something about 
>>> a
>>> cable, what do  you  mean?
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:   nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]   On Behalf Of Annette 
>>> Carr
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:39  PM
>>> To:  'List for blind crafters and artists'
>>> Subject: Re:  [Nfb-krafters-korner]  easy sock pattern?
>>>
>>> I insert my life line  into the stitches after I get  the row knitted. 
>>> I
>>> either use a  00 circular needle or a piece of  scrap yarn on a needle.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original   Message-----
>>> From:   nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]   On Behalf Of Melisa 
>>> Loutfi
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:23  PM
>>> To:  List for blind crafters and artists
>>> Subject: Re:  [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy  sock pattern?
>>>
>>> Teri,
>>>
>>> I also  became blind recently. I am  interested in learning the 
>>> lifeline
>>> method that you discussed below. I have  used something  similar in the 
>>> past
>>> to preserve stitches before ripping out.  I would  run a darning needle 
>>> with
>>> thread  through each stitch in the  row  below the problem row. Then I 
>>> could
>>> rip back.
>>>
>>> In the lifeline   method, is the knitter  to insert a cable through a
>>> stitches as  the  row is being knitted as a safety precaution?
>>>
>>> Melisa  Loutfi
>>> On Jan  11, 2012, at 7:16 AM, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) [E]  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Linda;
>>>> Get your friend to teach you about  using a life line so you can  take
>>>> out
>>> errors and not lose  your work.  We had some discussion about  it, maybe 
>>> a
>>> year or so,  ago.  You put a thin cable through your  stitches and every 
>>> 5
>>> or
>>> 10 stitches, you move the cable up your work, to  hold your  stitches, 
>>> while
>>> you work, some more.  If you have to take  out  stitches, the cable will
>>> prevent your stitches from running past that   point in your work.
>>>> I understand the consept, but am not  any  good at the method.
>>>>
>>>> Terry P.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: River Woman   [mailto:riverwoman at zoominternet.net]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10,  2012  10:28 AM
>>>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>>>>  Subject: Re:  [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock pattern?
>>>>
>>>>  Though I have been a  knitter for about 60 years, doing it
>>>>  non-visuaolly is an enormous  challenge for me. I have a very hard
>>>> time even when doing double yarn  overs. Right now, I am working  on a
>>>> shawl that has them every 6th row  - and I have quite a few  that I
>>>> have lost and did not know it till it  was too late to  work them in -
>>>> so, on this shawl, when I am finished,  I will  put some nice crystal
>>>> beads here and there, beginning with all   the places where I have lost
>>>> stitches. I have tied them with a  strand  of yarn, and so I know where
>>>> they are - when the shawl  is done with  the knitting part, I will put
>>>> some crystals and  pearsl here and there  all over the shawl. I hope
>>>> this will be a  nice detail - but it has  certainly grown out of my
>>>> inability to  FIX mistakes. Most mistakes, I  cannot fix myself - even
>>>> afer  four years of working my butt offf to  re-learn how to knit 
>>>> again.
>>>> Fortunately, I have a very good friend  who responds to me  calls for
>>>> "Knitting Emergency" help. I do not, and   never
>>> will have that sense of touch that a long time blind person has  had 
>>> since
>>> childhood. My brain is still VISUAL, and I imagine it will  always be 
>>> that
>>> way. I am still a visual learner regardless of the  fact I cannot see 
>>> what
>>> I
>>> am knitting.
>>>>
>>>> I understand  all things visually, not  through touch. Trying to FIX my
>>> knitting boo  boos through touch is not  working very well at all. I can 
>>> do
>>> it  somewhat, but not well.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message  -----
>>>> From: "Lovette Yewchan"  <lyewchan at telus.net>
>>>>  To: "List for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>  <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January  09,  2012 10:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock   pattern?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I suppose tube socks would work  but  wondered about the heel ones.
>>>>> He instep picking  up etc.  sounds too complicate for me at this 
>>>>> point.
>>>>>  Lovette
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2012-01-09, at 5:11 PM, River Woman  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Lovette, I have the same dilemma.  I  used to make socks  whe I could
>>>>>> see but now I  cannot do it. I would really love  to make them again,
>>>>>>  but I just end up with a mess now - I  would love some ideas on how
>>>>>> to do them in a way that I could  manage.  Lynda
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lovette   Yewchan"
>>>>>> <lyewchan at telus.net>
>>>>>> To:  "List  for blind crafters and artists"
>>>>>>   <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday,  January  09, 2012 6:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re:  [Nfb-krafters-korner] easy sock  pattern?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is wool ease  size 2.75 MM  needles recommended.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On   2012-01-09, at 10:02 AM, Blindhands at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What type of yarn do you have for these  socks?   Without weight of
>>>>>>>> yarn no idea  what to advise for  you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Joyce   Kane
>>>>>>>> _www.KraftersKorner.org_   (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>>>>>>>  Blindhands at AOL.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In a message dated 1/9/2012 12:41:37 A.M.  Eastern  Standard Time,
>>>>>>>> lyewchan at telus.net   writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi  there.  I  have soome sockease wool and want to make socks but
>>>>>>>> the pattern on  the paper is too hard for me.  DOes someone know of
>>>>>>>> a beginner sock pattern   that would not be too  hard?  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>  Lovette
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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