[Nfb-krafters-korner] To Teach or not to teach

Thu Nov 5 01:10:29 UTC 2015

After a earring class taught by Lisa Maria (I think); it was probably 2 years ago; I got hooked on the challenge of doing Bezantine chainmail. excuse my spelling.
The owner of a local  bead store was offering a class on this jewelry making technique.  I told her I just needed descriptive instructions.   This lovely lady blind folded herself while making a bracelet to help her find the words to teach me.  I have a bracelet and earrings in this pattern and another bracelet in a box   chain mail pattern.  All thanks to her willingness to teach me and my own determination to do it. 
Words were not quite enough. She would describe what to do while I tried to manipulate the links in my clutsy littlefingers.  Sometimes we resorted to hands on.

OOPs! time to call in!
C J   
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 4:16 PM, Michelle Clark via Nfb-krafters-korner <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Joyce,
> 
> When I  worked at Verizon, it was called "Train the Trainer".
> 
> Michelle
> 
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> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 6:25 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] To Teach or not to teach
> 
> Cindy,
> 
> You are a great teacher, but you have heard from other blind folks how they
> have been discouraged in trying to do things from the sighted world.  The
> sighted world just think if you can't see, you can't do it!  Some out there
> like the craft teacher  that Lisa is dealing with and I bet everyone here on
> this list has their own story about being refused the chance to learn, try
> and be guided and encouraged to do a craft, sew on a sewing machine, type on
> a computer make hand woven items, spin pottery, do I need to go on?  No we
> don't do it the same way a sighted person accomplishes these tasks, but
> people out there just don't think how would I do it if I couldn't see?
> 
> They are blinded by the thought of not being able to do it without sight.
> 
> Folks like you have looked beyond that and  taken the time to help us find a
> way to do it.  I would guess you have learned from us, too.
> 
> Theresa & Ken Taylor  have moved up to Vermont looking for a place to set up
> a learning center for the handicap that will give the opportunity for the
> handicap to teach the non handicap the abilities and the know how of the
> handicap.
> 
> If we don't take the time to teach them how we do it, then how can they
> teach others no matter what their handicap is.
> 
> Joyce Kane  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Zimmer, Cindy via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Zimmer, Cindy <cindy.zimmer at nebraska.gov>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Grrr
> 
> Keep in mind that not all sighted people don't know how to teach blind
> individuals.  I for one am very good at it!  I had some very good
> training!!!
> 
> Cindy Z.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Lisa Burns via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 1:24 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: Lisa Burns
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Grrr
> 
> That's an awesome idea! I would rather have a blind teacher personally
> because they understand more where I am coming from. That's just me though.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 4, 2015, at 11:07 AM, Henry Osborne via Nfb-krafters-korner
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Lisa;
>> Going back to your previous message about the craft store not knowing how
> to teach a blind person,is one reason that I wish that the craft stores
> would have their teachers take classes from the Krafters korner on howto
> teach the blind/partially sighted.
>> We should contact the head people at the stores main headquarters and talk
> to them about that.
>> Maybe in the future the K K could have a teachers workshop on how to teach
> the blind/partially sighted.
>> I am not trying to chase people away from joining the K K,but,I have heard
> that some people prefer to be taught by sighted teachers because quote they
> can see what they are doing.
>> Just my thoughts,and you're in the right place to learn new crafts Lisa.
>> Henry
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Terry Powers via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:30 AM
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> Cc: Terry Powers
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Grrr
>> 
>> Michaels  sells a nice tool kit for about $20 wich has a separate wire 
>> cutter.  It is recommended that you get a separate wire cutter, 
>> separate from your pliers.  If you use a 50% discount, the price is 
>> great for what you get.  It has I think 6 or so pieces, in a zipper case.
>> 
>> Terry P.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa 
>> Burns via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:15 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Lisa Burns <lisaburns1220 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Grrr
>> 
>> Oh, it just came with a bunch of different kinds of clasps, some 
>> thread, and some little rings. The bead shop did not tell me any tools 
>> I would need for the class.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Karen via Nfb-krafters-korner
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>>> Lisa, It would be helpful to know what findings came in the earring 
>>> kit. Did the kit come with any tools? Did your local bead shop talk 
>>> with you about any basic tools you might need for the class?
>>> 
>>> Karen
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