[Nfb-krafters-korner] two Ot'S

linda blasingim lblasingim at charter.net
Mon Oct 26 12:51:19 UTC 2015 

It is time for me to bowe out of this one.  However, I must say this...I did not read where the church did not want yout oworship.  Do you know if other members have been rejected?  We need to enter worship with humility, not strife.  Church is a place to worship God, not to perform.  If you want to perform, then, find or start a community chorus.  There is enough strife in churches 
now, do not bring in additional.  Please don't take this any further.
Linda B

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From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 6:10 AM
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Lauren,

I personally think the underlying message that your church is sending you is an extremely negative one that I would not tolerate under any circumstances. I go to church in order to worship God, and for any puny human being to judge me according to their narrow view of the world, and say that I am unfit to worship because of a disability is not even discriminatory, but very hateful. I sing in a church choir at my college (I go to a Jesuit university) and the Liturgy director make it a point to provide electronic copies of all of the songs to me ahead of time so I can put them on my braille note. Since our choir consists of about 100 students, our rehearsals are broken up into the different sections so it's pretty easy for me to learn my soprano part along with everyone else. There have also been students with problems standing in my choir and their needs have been accommodated without any talk of how they look "unprofessional" or how they might be too big of a burden to accommodate. I really do hope you speak to someone about all your feelings or start looking for a different church because singing is a huge part of how I worship and I can't imagine someone denying me the opportunity to do so.

Minh

On 10/26/15, Lauren Merryfield via Nfb-krafters-korner <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> I like some of the people; I like their music and sermons. Bkut some 
> of them can be negative, from my PURRspective.
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
> Blessings in Jesus’ name:
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
> www dot ask in jesus name dot org (you need to retype it) Psalm 34:1-2 
> I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall continually be in 
> my mouth. My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the humble shall 
> hear thereof, and be glad.
> Advice from my cats:”meow when you feel like it.”
>
>
>
>
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> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 9:44 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] two Ot'S
>
> Why do you go to this church and hang out with these negative people?
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lauren Merryfield via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:31 AM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Cc: Lauren Merryfield
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] two Ot'S
>
> Hi,
> Oh yeah, I knew that, but forgot. Maybe she could help, although they 
> don't really like listening to women, either, because nearly 
> everything except food and cleanup is done by the men.
> Thanks,
> Lauren, who is getting PURRturbed, an understanding, as she does over 
> and over, how wonderful her cats are!
>
> Blessings in Jesus’ name:
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
> www dot ask in jesus name dot org (you need to retype it) Psalm 34:1-2 
> I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall continually be in 
> my mouth. My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the humble shall 
> hear thereof, and be glad.
> Advice from my cats:”meow when you feel like it.”
>
>
>
>
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> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joyce 
> Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 8:47 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists' 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] two Ot'S
>
> We have one of our board members here that has written a book I 
> believe involving  disabilities ministries.  She is our First Vice 
> Presiden and is a minister.  You can meet her at our Monday Night chats as she usually runs
> them   I don't think she will be at this Monday's Chat as we have Cathy
> hosting the chat with our Guest Author Sara Mallery.
>
>
> Theresa I hope I said this correctly about your book that is coming out.
> Joyce
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> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
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> Clark via Nfb-krafters-korner
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> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] two Ot'S
>
> I  understand the music thing. Churches can often lean only on the 
> "chosen few". Pray about your desires and future there. I'm thinking 
> they do not have a  Disibility Ministry either. Write me off line at 
> mcikeyc at aol.com because I  am on my way to a  rant.
>
> Michelle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lauren 
> Merryfield via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:18 PM
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> Cc: Lauren Merryfield
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] two Ot'S
>
> Hi,
> How do you get your church people in charge to let you sing with them? 
> I have been able to talk every other church into it until my current 
> one. They have a professional-sounding band and worship song leader. I 
> asked to sing and I had to audition; a first. I passed the audition. I 
> went to a couple rehearsals but the pastor felt like there might be 
> too many complications for me to sing with them. Part of that is that 
> I have foot issues and cannot stand for long. My solution would be 
> something as ordinary as a chair behind me. But they consider that kind of thing a "complication."
>
> Now, I've written a song (I've done that since childhood) well, not 
> written; composed. I asked if I could teach it to the band and praise 
> singers and the pastor said I could ask our worship leader but I 
> probably would not be able to. It was like he was deciding before ever hearing it, that it would be no.
>
> They always say "we have someone else who does that already" or "we 
> have that taken care of" or other ways of saying "we don't need you; 
> stay in the pew and that's okay but don't ask to do anything." Kind of thing.
>
> I know this is considered by some to be O T but I have the same issue 
> with crafts. So many sighted people don't even want to try to teach me 
> how to make things since I am totally blind since birth. That's why 
> I'm glad we have this division and list. They don't believe I can do 
> something until they see it; like "seeing is believing" is it. Then 
> when I do something like crocheting, they act like it's so amazing. Well, it isn't.
>
> Music is a craft, so I don't consider it off topic. I'm about ready to 
> put the president of the Communities of Faith, Tom Anderson, in touch 
> with my church. I don't want to ruffle feathers (not too much anyway) 
> or ruin my stay there, but I've been there a year-and-a-half and they 
> only want me to worship with them, from my pew. Well, they'd like me 
> to tithe, too, of course.
>
> I really like my church but I feel like I'm being pushed against a 
> brick wall.
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
> Blessings in Jesus’ name:
> My digital evangelism blog is at:
> www dot ask in jesus name dot org (you need to retype it) Psalm 34:1-2 
> I will bless the Lord at all times: his praise shall continually be in 
> my mouth. My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the humble shall 
> hear thereof, and be glad.
> Advice from my cats:”meow when you feel like it.”
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner 
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> Streeter via Nfb-krafters-korner
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> Cc: Sandra Streeter <sandrastreeter381 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] two Ot'S
>
> Hi, everyone!
>
> Before going further, want to suggest that, if anyone's interested in 
> the items in my post, they can feel free to email me privately, since 
> they’re a bit OT, and I don’t want to clutter the list more than I already am!
>
> First: So sorry, Barb, about your cancellation—that must be deflating, 
> though you seem to be handling things well. Hope you get the go-ahead 
> soon—we’re all pullin’ for you.
>
> Also: Musically, my main focus has been voice: choirs since 2nd grade, 
> church worship teams from my 20s, now really striving to overcome 
> vocal shyness about doing solos: I’m due for one next Sun., so if 
> you’re a praying person, have at it! I am not a Braille music 
> reader—tried it when I was small, didn’t find it was my thing—so, 
> since my advanced choral work has required making notes in my score to 
> remind me of different scenarios as they’re about to arise, I devised 
> a tactile marking system. I took a little piano growing up, but don’t 
> have a suitable keyboard I’d be motivated to practice on. Recently, I 
> was GIVEN a flute by a friend who can no longer use it—but found 
> myself, after some research, to be a small-handed girl, so eventually 
> will have to invest in some key extensions, probably—since I’ve always 
> wanted to learn flute, since my teen-aged days as a fan of the Moody 
> Blues. I did invest in Bill Brown’s flute by ear course, so hope once 
> I get key extensions, to pursue that further. Anyone know where I can get those affordably, and about how much I can expect to pay?
>
> Also, if anyone knows how to make it so you can listen to radio 
> stations online and still do other things on the computer that require 
> JAWS, please email me—classic rock around here is pretty dull, but I 
> know of a station in Boston that is just as good as in the 80s, when I 
> studied up at Gordon College... Ideally, I want to have the radio at a 
> lower volume so I can still hear whatever I’m word processing or reading with OpenBook.
>
> And to the one item not OT: is WoolEase sort-of-cashmere-like, in texture?
> For winter projects, I love that texture!
>
>
>
> Sandra
> “To love another person is to see the face of God.”
> (Les Miserables--the musical)
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