[Nfb-krafters-korner] OT Braille

[Liz]

That makes sense. 
Computers are great but so are the low-tech things. 
It might also help with isolation. No one can complain that the slate is too noisy.


Liz

> On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:38 PM, David Andrews via Nfb-krafters-korner <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> See, that is the problem, I  am blaming the system, not you.  Kids are given a Braille Writer much to early.  We were taught on the slate first, and weren't moved to Braille Writers, not all were Perkins back then, until we were proficient with the slate and stylus.  I am a good slate user, went all the way through Graduate School using the slate for all note taking.
> 
> We don't give sighted kids  type writers before they use pens and pencils, or at least we used to not do so.  With computers, everything has been turned on its head, but I still believe kids should be taught the slate first, and they should do it whether or not they like it.  When did we have a choice.!
> 
> Dave
> 
> that 10:26 AM 8/29/2016, you wrote:
>> I can use a slate, but hate it.  I am much faster on a brailler or note taker.  A slate is a thing of the past or a back up.  I learned the brailler first and that is what I am the best at.  I do not remember how I was tought, but a lot of the time, I think of an ar sign as a gh sign, in my mind, before creating it on the slate. I have arthritis, too, and bet I could not write on the slate for long.  I even have to stop crafting and stretch my hands or do something else for a few minutes, now and then.
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>> Terry P.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Deanna Lewis via Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org]
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 10:14 AM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT Braille
>> 
>> I've always struggled with the slate and stylus. It's hard for me to use because of my arthritis and carpal tunnel syndrome in both hands. My biggest issue though is not being able to distinguish which hole I am punching. I think I'm punching in dots 1 and 2, but it turns out to be dots 2 and 3. I get so frustrated with it, but I do try to practice more. Although, I just had carpal tunnel surgery, and will be having the other hand done soon, so I don't think I'll be able to use a slate and stylus for quite a while! But, that also means no sewing/quilting  for a couple of weeks, which is killing me. And unfortunately, I still have a lot of work on the baby quilt I am making for my sister.
>> Deanna
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 8:08 PM
>> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
>> Cc: Annette Carr
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT Braille
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>> Yes, Dave, that is correct.  However, I do not know if they still make it.
>> It was not any faster to use this type of slate, but for some people it was easier.  What Dave said is correct about letting the pattern of the dot or contraction take over, but for a segment of the population they just can't get their brain and hands to work a traditional slate.
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>> Annette
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 7:32 PM
>> To: List for blind crafters and artists
>> Cc: David Andrews
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] OT Braille
>> 
>> I remember seeing a slate where the dots stick up, and the stylus is hollow and goes down over the dot, making the paper form a dot. So you can write left to right.  I don't remember it being any faster.
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>> Also, a good slate user memorizes the dot patterns, and lets muscle memory take over, ... you press here and here for this letter, etc.  If you start thinking about a given letter being backwards from something else, most people have problems.  They get confused.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> At 05:27 PM 8/28/2016, you wrote:
>> >Have anyone out there ever had or used a slate and sstyiles that you
>> >worked it from left to right and didn't have to flip it???
>> >
>> >That would be cool.  You would not have to flip the letters backward or
>> >should I say right to left when you did it.
>> >
>> >Joyce
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