[Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

Sat Jul 2 22:05:17 UTC 2016

Henry:

It is a free speech software.  I think it was developed in Australia.

I'm hearing really good things about it.  I down loaded it and have been trying to learn to use it.  I wonder if there are any list serves for it.

You can give a donation if you like and I probably will if I start using it more.  I'm using a very old version of JAWS; I just can't afford to constantly upgrade.

Nella
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From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Henry Osborne via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 4:54 PM
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Hi All;
What is MDVA? I have heard of it before, and would like to learn more about it please.
Thank you.
Henry

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From: Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 11:05 AM
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I'm trying to learn NVDA; I'm tired of paying for JAWS upgrades.  If there 
are other people using NVDA I would love to speak with them.

Nella

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From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Liz via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 8:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain

HI greg,

I’m not sure about Jaws but both work fairly well with NVDA.
I have a copy of Jaws 16 or 17, which I can use to test.
The last time I used Jaws Skype was fairly accessible.
On the iPhone, both are accessible.
I currently use a Mac but would of course use NVDA and Jaws to help others 
here since many don’t use that platform.

Hope this answers your question,
Liz

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 9:46 PM, ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner 
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Liz,
>
> Does Jaws work well with Skype and Google Hangouts now?
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Liz via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:40 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: Liz
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> You have the right to choose the teaching style that works of you just as 
> students have choices about taking your classes.
> What about teleconferencing like Skype or Google hangouts?
>
> Liz
>
>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 5:16 PM, Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner 
>> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Terry K and All,
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with you making a personal decision to only
>> teach telephone classes.  Just as students have their own learning
>> styles, teachers have their own teaching style.  Do what works for
>> you as that will make you the best teacher that you can be.
>>
>> I have taught both telephone and e-mail classes.  I like having the
>> option to choose which technique works for how I teach a specific
>> topic.  As a student, I like having the variety of telephone verses 
>> e-mail classes.
>> Sometimes an e-mail class fits into my schedule better, and other
>> times I might feel that the best way for me to learn something new is
>> via a phone class.
>>
>> I do not get worked up about not being able to take a class.  Maybe
>> there is not a topic being taught that I want to learn, or maybe I
>> just can't fit a class into my schedule.  I am appreciative and
>> thankful for the wide range of knowledge and support that is here at
>> Krafters Korner.  I hope we can keep trying new things so that we can
>> continue to be diverse and inclusive in so many ways.  Who would have
>> thought that we could have a virtual holiday party, but the creative 
>> energy of this group pulled it off.
>>
>> Annette
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
>> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Terry
>> Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
>> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 4:00 PM
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>> Cc: Terry Knox
>> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] List is slow So I will complain
>>
>>
>>
>> I have to voice my opinion. I know others will not agree, but that is
>> why Beyer's makes many flavors, so bear with me. June was the first
>> time in 8 years I have even taught an email class and I did not like
>> it at all. So for all my past students, Sorry, I will not do it
>> again. I like hearing all those voices behind the class line and
>> getting the feeling that some of you did not understand or get my
>> instructions. I like hearing the comments and other people who give
>> me their opinions or other ideas on how to do it differently. I know
>> after the class I got to speak with new members and hear the voices
>> of those I only speak with on list. I understand this is the new
>> world and most people like this, but I just Do Not. I will teach the
>> market bag by email but reconsidering the little girl purse in
>> August, have not make decision yet. I always follow up my class with
>> written instructions but I personally feel that most people only take
>> the email class to save and file it for later and that becomes a UFO
>> also. Most of you do not realize how much time is taken to write and
>> try to print the lesson with all the turns and twist just to put it
>> on list and have it filed. I believe it is like writing a book, your
>> patterns get put into a shelf and never looked at unless needed. So,
>> if you want to do a craft and I am presenting it you will have to
>> come to class and learn it at that time. I will try to keep my classes to 
>> the one to one and one half hour time and I will try to keep them fun and 
>> enjoyable for all, but, sorry, no more email classes for me.
>>
>> Terry Knox
>>
>>
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