[Nfb-krafters-korner] classes & membership

Mon Jul 4 17:03:39 UTC 2016

Annette,

Thanks for your explanation. I guess I'll just sit back and wait for a truly 
beginner class to come along.

Jean

-----Original Message----- 
From: Annette Carr via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:47 AM
To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
Cc: Annette Carr
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes & membership

There have been many discussions in the past of saving and redistributing 
past classes.  However, there are many issues that prevent us from being 
able to do this.  That does not mean that we can't come up with a way to 
offer something, so read to the end and see what you think.

When a teacher prepares to teach a class, she/he might be using a 
copyrighted pattern and should have obtained permission from the pattern 
owner to use that pattern for that one class.  It would be an infringement 
of copyright to redistribute that class.

If the teacher developed the instructional material, then that material 
belongs to that teacher and redistributing it would be an infringement of 
the copyright of their intellectual property.

When a class is being taught and the teacher announces that the class will 
be recorded, and students elect to remain on the call or do not verbally 
object to the recording, then they have granted permission to be recorded 
for the purpose of that class.  The recording is for the personal use of the 
participants and we do not obtain any additional permission.  If we wanted 
to redistribute that class, we would have to have permission from every 
participant to share the recording.  The bottom line is that we really do 
not want to have to manage this legal ball of wax.

So with all of that said, I do believe that there is a way to offer some 
classes via pre-recorded telephone and/or e-mail classes.  A class or lesson 
could be recorded with just the teacher or with 1 or 2 students.  This would 
have to be a very controlled situation to ensure very clear instructions as 
well as high audio quality.  The e-mail classes would have to have a proven 
record and would have to include very detailed instructions broke up into 
manageable segments.

With either of these options it will take a lot of volunteer hours to plan 
the class.  The phone/audio  class  would need to be recorded, and 
re-recorded if need be.  The audio files as well as the electronic files for 
the e-mail classes will need to be stored, backed up  and managed.  Then 
there is the management of getting the class info to the member when they 
want to take the class, or maybe the class would be put into the class 
line-up on a regularly occurring scheduling, but it will still need to be 
managed.

So while this all sounds good, if we don't have the man-power to accomplish 
it we will not succeed.  A lot of volunteer hours already go into what we 
already have going.  If there are people with the skills, talents and time 
to do this, then it is worth looking into.  We have had a lot of new and 
great ideas tossed around lately, so the board and the membership will have 
to pick and choose which tasks are reasonable for us to accomplish now and 
which ones can be taken on in the future.

As we look to building our future, I would like to explain how continuing to 
require students to sign up for classes and for teacher to take attendance 
helps us.  The NFB Crafters Division is really a leader in our outreach 
efforts.  As we continue to grow our membership and expand what our division 
has to offer, we will need statistics to show what we have accomplished. 
Knowing how many students have participated in our classes speaks volumes as 
we promote who we are and what we have to offer.  Looking at our past data 
will help us predict where we are going in the future.  If we want to reach 
out to more and more people to let them know that blindness does not have to 
prevent them from expressing their creativity, then by default we are going 
to grow.  With growth come change and structure.  If you are cooking dinner 
for 2 people, you can probably give it little thought and have it on the 
table in minutes.  If you are going to cook dinner for 30 people, then you 
are going to have to do some planning, and you are going to want to know who 
is actually coming to dinner.

Ok, I think I am done and had better step down off of my soap box.  I have 
not posted any of this to start a battle, but rather as food for thought.

Annette

-----Original Message-----
From: Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 11:04 AM
To: List for blind crafters and artists
Cc: Deborah Armstrong
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] classes & membership

As a new member, I'd like to see recordings of past phone classes, 
especially the beginner ones, because it would keep teachers from having to 
repeat elementary stuff. Loom knitting would be a good example.
Looking through the archives, I saw some discussion of a members area, so 
presumably, you used to post recordings there.

--Debee

On 7/3/2016 9:29 PM, Courtney Fulghum Smith via Nfb-krafters-korner wrote:
>> Im a little bummed that members can't access patterns for past
>> classes. I may see a previous class & want to take it & be the only
>> one interested & then may have to wait several months or even years
>> before that class is ever taught again.
>
> Maybe we can get this changed soon for paying members. Now, that just
> gave me another idea.….….…
>
> Courtney
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