[Nfb-krafters-korner] Farm and Work
Annely Rose
annely53r at yahoo.com
Mon May 9 17:42:31 UTC 2016
Hi Terry,
Good for you. Yeah, it's a shame that we have to prove ourselves to employers. But for many jobs, sighted people have to do that, too. that's why they have probationary periods for usually 90 days. It just seems like we have to do it more so than others.
Annely
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On Mon, 5/9/16, Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E] via Nfb-krafters-korner <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Farm and Work
To: "'List for blind crafters and artists'" <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E]" <Terry.Powers at nih.gov>
Date: Monday, May 9, 2016, 1:36 PM
I work for the National Cancer Institute of the National
Institute of Health.
I am an audimation clerk. I started out just doing
phones, but have proved to the government that a blind
person can do much more than phones.
I escort, Xerox, scan, take passports back and forth to main
campus, on our shuddle bus, go to the cashier on campus,
make deliveries here and some times on campus, maintain copy
machines on 2 floors and much more. I am always
looking for new things to try.
We even came up with a way for me to help with filing for
about 5 years. We used a cover page and jumbo print
and they would put check marks, so I knew what to do with
the document.
Terry P.
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From: Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 1:21 PM
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Cc: Nella Foster
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
Terry:
My farm is quite small, just a few acres.
I have one horse, his name is Cruiser and he is a Missouri
Fox Trotter. He is a palomino color and very
sweet. He will be 14 in June and a lot of fun to
ride.
I keep a small herd of Nubian goats and sell their milk and
the kids I don't wish to keep. Nubians have long
floppy ears, like hound dogs and can come in lots of
different colors. All the goats have candy names;
right now I'm milking Lollipop, Carmel, Tootsie Roll and
Skittles.
I added a Jersey cow to the farm last October. Her
name is Bonnie and she is due to calf any day now. I
sell her milk and will be selling her calf when it is old
enough.
I make and sell goat milk soap. I make cheeses, but
legally can't sell them. Some of my milk clients will
give donations for cheese. It is the same way with
butter. My farm is only certified to sell milk.
I have planted a small orchard, but will not get any fruit
for 2 or 3 more years. Someday I hope to be able to
sell some fresh fruit. I also have a small herb and
vegetable garden, but they are for my own use. I do
use some of the herbs in my soaps.
Well, that is about all that goes on around here. I
spend most of my life cleaning the milking equipment,
sterilizing jars and the like. It's really not very
exciting.
I would love to hear about what other people do.
Nella
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On Behalf Of Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E] via
Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 10:22 AM
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Cc: Powers, Terry (NIH/NCI) [E]
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
How big is your farm? Do you have any horses? I
love horses!
Terry P.
Tell us more about your farm and what you do!
-----Original Message-----
From: Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org]
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 11:17 AM
To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
Cc: Nella Foster
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
Henry:
I have just 1 Jersey cow and she gives the best cream.
I am waiting for her to calf so will not have milk from her
until then. It should be any day now.
Her name is Bonnie and she has quite the following. I
have people who buy her milk just for their coffee.
Several people buy milk just so they can make butter.
The goats have their fan club to; many people have
difficulty digesting cow milk, but do not have trouble with
goat milk. I like both and use what ever doesn't
sell. I love making goat cheeses.
Nella
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On Behalf Of Henry Osborne via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 9:51 AM
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Cc: Henry Osborne
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
Good Morning Nella;
Do you have milk cows on your farm too?
There's nothing better to me than a glass of milk straight
from the cow, and the cream that rises to the top, oh boy
now that is Heaven in coffee or tea.
henry
-----Original Message-----
From: Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 8:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
I have found a new use for my hot bath canner.
I've been sterilizing the jars I use for goat milk in it.
Nella
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On Behalf Of Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 12:11 PM
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Cc: Terry Knox
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
Or use tools. In canning, there is a rack with a handle
where you place in the pot to hold jars in position.
Terry K
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Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2016 12:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
Catherine,
This is a great example. If a sighted person had a jar to
fall over in a boiling canner, this would be difficult for
them as well! It can be done safely but is going to involve
cooling that whole pot down some and using jar tongs and
another lifting tool like a huge spoon or another pair of
tongs to grab it with both hands. And, if a person is
limited in their abilities or doesn't feel comfortable, you
call a sighted friend or if you were a sighted person, you
call your Mama or a friend and say now what do I do lol. So,
we all need to know our comfort zone. I don't like dealing
with the pressure canner. So, I'll break green beans all
day, wash dishes, and all the rest. But, I get a helper to
help with the canner for a share of the beans.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: Catherine jacobse via Nfb-krafters-korner
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: Krafters Korner nfb
Cc: Catherine jacobse
Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Pickles - WAS: Measuring
Hot Candle Wax
Yum, dill pickles! Easy to make. Well in
comparison to the 7 day sweet pickles that my Mom used to
make. For the dills; the clean hot mason
jars (full of cuucs and other stuff) are filled to near top
with brine. Using a liquid alert on side of jar makes
this doable for me. After sealing the jar, place
it in the canner for processing. . I’ve done canning
/ preserving, mainly peaches, pears and apricots and the
utensils that go with this process makes it again
doable. The exception for me is when a jar falls over
in the canner filled with hot water. very difficult to
get out.
It is an all day job with lots of pouring of hot brine. .
I no longer do the canning as we do not eat that much fruit
and we are in Mexico for the winter. I have done some
selsa type preserves, but they are in small jars.
> I’ll have to look up the kool-aid pickles. Our
family loves pickles.
Catherine J
cuucs; phonetic abbreviation for cucumbers.
> On May 6, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Annette Carr via
Nfb-krafters-korner
> <nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> I have never made homemade pickles despite how much I
love pickles.
> At work everyone has been going crazy over Kool-Aid
Pickles. I have
> not tried to make them yet. It appears that they
are very easy to
> make based on the various recipes out on the web.
>
> Annette
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Nella Foster via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:38 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Cc: Nella Foster
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
>
> This is such a good point. I've made candles
before, but most likely
> won't do it again. I enjoy making my own soap and
think I get a
> better quality than any I can buy. I'm having fun
trying the knitting
> looms and will probably try the cro hooking.
There are so many things
> to learn and try there's no way I can do it all, but I
want to be able
> to make informed decisions and get good information
when needed.
>
> If people have a desire to learn something then they
should do the
> research and give it a try. You can never know
until you do it.
>
> I want to make pickles some day. Lol
>
> Nella
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of linda blasingim via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:46 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Cc: linda blasingim
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> Greg, at my age, I like taking short cuts. If
younger folks want to
> make candles, I think they should learn all they
can. Hey, I am for
> giving everything a try! I made pickles years
ago; now, I think
> commercial pickles are wonderful. We should learn
something new each
> day. If we learn the basic construction of a
craft and never make it,
> it is okay; we have learned something. Like
Courtney, I love the
> candle warmers for their fraquence choices, as well as,
the cost. I
> have even mixed the fraquences, which is fun. If
someone wants to
> make candles, I encourage him or her to make them.
> Folks, try what you are interested in. You don't
know what you can
> achieve until you try it. Do not be
discouraged.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:51 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> That is exactly where I'm at too. I'm with Linda B. Way
to much work
> and expense in candlemaking for me. But, I'm really
glad I now have
> some idea of how and the knowledge that I believe and
even know I
> could do it safely. I love that machine Linda B
described! One
> function this group can be is to be like the library.
They have books
> on all sorts of topics. Most I'll never actually do.
But, I can learn
> how it's done and so on. I don't want to rebuild an
engine to speed up
> my white cane. But, I could learn how if I wanted to
and could even
> tell somebody else at least generally how.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Osborne via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 2:18 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: Henry Osborne
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner]MeasuringHotCandle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> Hi Greg;
> Very, very well said. I whole heartily agree with all
of your points.
> I do believe that the other person that recently spoke
of how to make
> candles has many many years of both knowledge and
experience in this
> field of crafting.
> I want to say to this person to not be discouraged in
the craft of
> candel making because of the negative remarks of
others.
> Joyce, I want to join Greg in thanking you for your
mini lesson on how
> to make candels. I may never attempt this craft, but,
at least I know
> the process of how to do it.
> Henry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 1:20 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] MeasuringHotCandle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> So, did you need to ask all of those questions? Do you
think you could
> do the class? Did you ask for an opportunity to speak
with the
> instructor yourself and sell him/her on the idea that
you could
> benefit at least to some degree? And, if all else
failed, did you
> contact the store manager or A.C. Moore corporate to
state your case?
> Nobody has shown why you can't take this class.
Therefore, you are
> being excluded due to lack of understanding and
information. Notice I
> am saying state your case. So many blind people might
try to force the
> issue. But, what you need is information first.
> That
> little old lady they hired off the street doesn't
understand how a
> blind person can do anything most likely. We're so
remarkable you
> know. We can talk and walk and chew gum lol. Also,
could you call the
> store and get general information about this class?
Talk to the
> manager about reasonable accommodation. Maybe you can
bring someone
> with you to assist at no additional fee to get them
seeing that you
> are competent and capable.
>
> Terry K, It is true that information is shared here.
But, there is
> always someone trying to shut down any conversation.
Wait till we
> teach a class.
> Don't talk about that on list till we can teach a class
and hope you
> can attend. Don't talk about that because you could get
burned. Don't
> share patterns or instructions so we can teach a class.
And, many
> times, a person does not need to sit through a class to
do a project
> where they need only have the pattern because they
already know the
> technique. That class time could better be used
teaching new people
> basic technique. Also, by forcing classes, it is simply
to hard to get
> a date and the procedure is not teacher friendly. I
have told Joyce
> why I will not teach classes months out. When I taught
my two beading
> classes, we were being told we desperately need classes
for March. I
> agreed to teach. I finally said give me two dates
because everything I
> asked for was taken. Now, we want teachers for June,
July and August.
> I can't plan to be available for certain that far out.
> So,
> I'll never be teaching another class here. So, as a
group, you just
> elected to give up any knowledge that I have. So be it.
We need to
> just relax and share or we need to stop saying help
each other and
> learn from each other and call ourselves a blind
crafting school and
> just have classes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:52 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Cc: Terry Knox
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring HotCandle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> Hey Greg,
> Need your input on this one. Went to AC Moore the other
day and was
> real interested in taking one of their classes. Started
asking all
> kinds of questions and they told me Take the class, to
make it short.
> Then when they realized I was blind told me they did
not think I would
> be able to do the class. They discouraged me from
taking the class and
> wanted to check with the teacher. They would not answer
my questions
> and I guess they would have taken my $25 for the class
I could not do.
> We certainly get a lot more on this list then most
places.
> Terry K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of ncbootman--- via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 12:02 PM
> To: List for blind crafters and artists
> Cc: ncbootman at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> We are all adults. We have to make decisions about what
is safe for
> ourselves based on our abilities and limitations. Some
people I know
> shouldn't be turned lose with a plastic canvas needle.
They might poke
> their eyes out. Then they could join this group I
guess. Are we here
> to share knowledge and help people learn or are we here
to tell people
> wait till we think you can handle the knowledge? Joyce,
thank you for
> sharing since I did learn and my goodness. My hot water
is hotter than
> the wax. So, I don't think I'd get cooked lol.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Knox via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 11:18 AM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Cc: Terry Knox
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle
Waxand Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> Joyce,
> Too much info...Are you teaching a class on line? This
was a lot of
> answers here, all of this has it all swimming in my
head and I am a
> seasoned crafter. Candle making is a craft that as you
know can be
> most dangerous with Hot wax and really studied for a
sighted person
> and tricky for a vision impaired person. You really
know how to do
> this well I would caution advice given to anyone on hot
wax crafting
> without hands on class or emails one on one.
> Just my non important opinion.
> Terry K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Joyce Kane via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 10:17 PM
> To: 'List for blind crafters and artists'
> Cc: blindhands at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle
Wax and Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> I used double boilers or a double boiler system like an
inch or 2 of
> water in a saucepan with the pouring pot placed in the
center. I did
> not use anything under the pouring pot.
>
> I used a wooden spoon to keep stering the
wax. I bought the one poor
> wax by the case or when starting out 11 pound
slabs. I cut it with a
> butter knife and weighed it according to the size of
the jar or
> container I was going to poor it in. I had gotten
a talking food
> scale and would measure in grams. I paid over
$100 for the talking
> scale. If you want to know the name of the brand
of scale send me a
> note off list with your other questions.
>
> I preferred purchasing the wax in cases of 55
pounds. You got 5 - 11
> pound slabs.
>
> I used cotter pins that were 4 or 5 inches long to hold
the wix in
> place at the top of the jars. I used the wix with
the metal disk on
> the bottom and would put some wax on it and put it into
the jar and
> push it down. You could feel it with your fingers
if it was centered
> at the bottom. My husband would put the wix in
the cotter pin and use
> masking tape to secure the cotter pins to the top of
the jar. If you
> don't secure the wix in place with the cotter pin which
will hold it
> up straight the wix could shift and not be in the
center.
>
> I would have to do some looking to find where I got the
long cotter
> pins -that was a trick I learned from a candlemaker in
PA that told me
> a lot of info and I first got the 11 pound slabs of wax
from her.
>
> The one pour wax is soft and more like butter. It
melts at around 120
> -
> 130
> degrees. I use to pour in the afternoon and leave
them sit until
> before I went to bed or the next morning. It will
harden from the
> outside of the jar to the center wick area.
>
>
>
> Joyce
> Too many questions. This will keep you thinking
for now.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nfb-krafters-korner
> [mailto:nfb-krafters-korner-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Sirena Carroll via Nfb-krafters-korner
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 8:03 PM
> To: nfb-krafters-korner at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Sirena Carroll <sirenacarroll86 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Nfb-krafters-korner] Measuring Hot Candle Wax
and Other
> Candlemaking Questions
>
> Dear Crafters,
>
> Looks like I may be venturing into candlemaking a bit
sooner than
> planned due to an oppertunity that's popped up over
here, but I had a
> few questions for blind candlemakers first.
>
> I wanted to know how you candlemakers measure your hot
wax when
> pouring it into a container or a mold if making wax
tarts, bars or
> cubes. I've read on Lonestar that you shouldn't fill
the container up
> past the widest part of the jar, but how do you tell
where that is for
> yourselves? Do you just use smaller jars and liquid
level indicaters?
> Could an LLI even take that kind of heat? I like larger
jar candles
> myself, and would not wish to be limited to a certain
size due to
> this.
>
> Another question. When wicking your containers. To
ensure centering,
> do any of you use wick-centering tools? If so, which
would you
> recommend and do you find they work for you? Also, do
you use wick
> stickers, glue dots, or another method of making
certain the wick
> adheres to the bottom of the container?
>
> When it comes to cutting one pour wax, if that is what
you use, what
> tools do you use to do it? Or do you just get wax
pellets, shavings or
> however else they're sold?
>
> What is a wick bar? I think I get the idea, but
physically, what does
> it look like and what is it for? You have the wick
centering tool, if
> you use it, and then a wick bar which instructions say
to affix as one
> of the final steps. It comes off, of course, but what
is it actually
> for?
>
> Same with wick tabs. What are they used for?
>
> I can google all of this as well. I just figured I'd
ask here.
>
> Oh, one more question. Do you use double boilers or a
double boiler
> system like an inch of water in a saucepan with the
pouring pot placed
> in the center, elevated upon a metal trivet or an
inexpensive metal
> cookie cutter?
>
> Thanks for all your help!
>
> Rena
>
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