[Nfb-lions] New member
Peter Donahue
pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Wed Jun 5 14:19:22 UTC 2013
Good morning Cheryl and others,
And those same people think nothing of it to go around bragging about
how inspiring and amazing you are yet they're quick to make excuses for not
being willing to provide transportation to you so you could attend their
meetings. It's proof positive of the emptiness and hypocrisy of such
statements. We've been dealing with a similar situation concerning a few
individuals here in town. Whenever we'd see them they would go on about how
inspiring we are but one of them couldn't take five minutes to help us
create a Skype Account so we could get past the captcha. They've been put on
notice that their behavior is unacceptable, that we regard such comments and
their subsequent unwillingness to take a few minutes to help us with small
tasks to preserve the team element of our venture are insulting and
demeaning to the blind, and that comments about us being "Amazing and
inspiring" will no longer be tolerated! Recognission is a good thing
provided it's given to blind persons on the same terms as it is given to the
sighted. Glad you found a club that is more welcoming and whose members are
willing to help you out. All the best.
Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
To: "NFB Lions" <nfb-lions at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-lions] New member
I had that issue with my last club, we had went with a club that wasn't part
of our town, and when nights for meetings that my husband couldn't drive, no
one would pick me up. It never happened often, my husband is also a Lion,
and he is sighted. But there were always excuses, oh you are out of my way,
etc. I have a guide dog, no one really wanted to pick me up with my dog.
FYI, Lions raise money for guide dogs.
We switched to the one in our town, and now I don't have any issues at all.
Many of us are also part of the Chamber of Commerce here.
I like it very much.
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> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:03:21 -0500
> From: ms.sunflower61 at gmail.com
> To: nfb-lions at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-lions] New member
>
> Dar,
> I am glad you are interested in being a part of Lions. It bothers me
> that they aren't willing to help you with transportation. In a
> previous club, the members never had a problem offering a ride. I
> offered money for gas, which they refused. I would sneek around and
> pay for a meal or 2 when I could get away with it. grin! They would
> fuss at me when they caught me. I would laugh and go on. I have sense
> moved and have just recently located a club to join. This city has
> buses that I can make use of for getting to the meeting. Returning
> home has to be done by cab or club member. When they found this out, a
> member offered. If you don't feel welcome in that club, find another
> one. I'm sure there is plenty you can contribute to the club.
>
> Feel free to ask any other questions.
> Good luck!
> Hope this helped.
>
>
>
> On 6/4/13, Milton Ota <mota1252 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello d m gina,
> >
> > I see that attending the national convention for you is the first
> > time--I
> > hope that you will have a great convention experience.
> >
> > Please make it a priority to attend the NFB-Lions meeting on Monday as
> > you
> > will be able to hear from other NFB Lions and their experiences -
> > especially
> > from those that have not thus far participated in this discussion.
> >
> > If you wish to discuss matters further, I can be reached through the
> > contact
> > below.
> >
> > Milton Ota, Co-Chair
> > NFB-Lions
> > National Federation of the Blind
> > Phone (701) 212-0154
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nfb-lions [mailto:nfb-lions-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m
> > gina
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:10 PM
> > To: nfb-lions at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nfb-lions] New member
> >
> > Hello,
> > This is my first time at convention, I will be at the breakfast at
> > seven AM Monday morning.
> > I pick up my card at four PM, after that I will go from there.
> > the time change for me is a bit harder to get used to, where I know it
> > will happen by Tuesday.
> > We are in mountain time.
> > I sure appreciate the help you folks have given me.
> > yes the breakfast is at seven in the morning where they start setting
> > up at six.
> > I can't say here where it will be because I don't remember.
> > I just know that paying a cab to all events can't happen.
> > We just don't have that kind of money.
> > Also waiting an hour and a half for a cab to come would not put me
> > there by six.
> > This is why I am asking for a ride.
> > I know I can say the rite things, and hoping all will work out.
> >
> > Original message:
> >> Dar, I would love to meet you at convention. When will you arrive? Is
> > this
> >> your first NFB Convention? Travis Moses, the President of the NFB of
> >> Montana can help you find people. Others will also be able to help. I
> >> can
> >> meet you in Mrs. Jernigan's suite at 8:00 a.m. Monday morning if that
> >> will
> >> work for you. You should look for an agenda as soon as you arrive if
> >> you
> > do
> >> not download one from the NFB Web Site before you leave home.
> >
> >> The Lions meeting Monday evening will begin at 5:00 and be finished no
> >> later than 6:30. If you can plan your dinner around that schedule, I
> >> promise you will meet lots of blind Lions, and one or two may be able
> >> to
> >> join you for dinner.
> >
> >> Do not hesitate to say to the person sitting next to you at a Lions
> > meeting
> >> that you would appreciate it if he or she would tell you when you miss
> >> something that is happening. Not only do you need to know that people
> > stand
> >> during the pledge to the flag, but you also need to know where the flag
> > is.
> >> They might have thought you should know to stand, but there is no way
> >> you
> >> could know where the flag is.
> >
> >> The Lions in your club know very little about blindness. You have the
> >> opportunity to help them learn. You may be still learning yourself. I
> >> suggest you tell them that. They will take their cues from you, at
> >> least
> > to
> >> some degree.
> >
> >> I would try to find a job at their breakfasts, even if your first one
> >> is
> >> simply passing out plates and napkins. My club now trusts me to
> >> collect
> >> money, but that didn't happen the first day. It happens that we also
> >> do
> >> breakfasts, some for a fundraising and some for service. As you get to
> > know
> >> the group, you may be able to find a member who lives near you. Or
> > someone
> >> who will go near your home on the way to a project. Then it is a
> >> matter
> > of
> >> coordinating schedules. You don't want to be a pest, but most Lions
> >> are
> >> very generous once they get to know you. As you show them that you are
> >> trying to work with them, you may make some good friends.
> >
> >> You may want to visit some other clubs if there are some in your town.
> > Not
> >> all clubs are alike, and it is not unusual for prospective members to
> > visit
> >> several clubs before choosing one to join. If you are in a tiny town,
> >> of
> >> course there will be only one club.
> >
> >> See you soon.
> >
> >> Ramona
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> >> To: <nfb-lions at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:58 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nfb-lions] New member
> >
> >
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I know they have plans going up to December their Christmas party.
> >>> They do allot of breakfast servings.
> >>> One is a bank that I can try to take a cab to,
> >>> The strawberry fest is this coming weekend.
> >>> I will share what I can learn.
> >>> the two guys were very offended with me that I didn't stand up for the
> >>> Pledge of the Legence. Being at a dinner table I didn't realize they
> > were
> >>> standing.
> >>> If you can give tips on how you help your groups, I will take the tips
> > and
> >>> share.
> >
> >>> Original message:
> >>>> Dar, The Lions International motto is "We serve." Of course, there
> >>>> is
> >>>> sharing in that, but virtually all Lions expect to serve in a variety
> >>>> of
> >>>> different ways. Every club has its own projects and their own
> >>>> meeting
> >>>> schedules. The NFB Lions is an informal group which share ideas
> >>>> about
> >>>> how
> >>>> to integrate Lions into our own clubs and communities and help our
> >>>> clubs
> >>>> accept us as blind people and how to help Lions clubs respect blind
> >>>> people
> >>>> as partners. Sometimes this takes a little work. As you get
> >>>> acquainted
> >>>> with a particular club, individuals are likely to offer
> >>>> transportation
> >>>> when
> >>>> it is convenient for them, but this may not always happen.
> >
> >>>> Lions have made helping blind people a priority, but sometimes this
> > means
> >>>> to
> >>>> them preventing blindness. I try to keep reminding them that
> > preventing
> >>>> blindness is a very good thing, but different from helping blind
> >>>> people.
> >>>> Helen Keller asked Lions to be "Knights of the blind" in 1927. They
> > have
> >>>> taken this challenge seriously, but I think it is fair to say that
> >>>> there
> >>>> are
> >>>> several different understandings of what that means. Most clubs are
> >>>> glad
> >>>> to
> >>>> welcome blind members, but you will need to help them understand what
> > you
> >>>> can do to contribute to their projects.
> >
> >>>> Dues vary from one district to the next. There are international and
> >>>> district, and then club dues. Thus, the total can be different from
> > club
> >>>> to
> >>>> club. My club charges 30 dollars per quarter, and we probably should
> >>>> raise
> >>>> it. The NFB Lions group has not charged dues, but perhaps we should.
> > We
> >>>> generally hold one meeting at the time and place of our national
> >>>> convention.
> >>>> Sometimes we have discussions between conventions, and we all do what
> >>>> we
> >>>> can
> >>>> think of in our various local clubs. Some of us have held district
> >>>> offices
> >>>> and most have held local offices.
> >
> >>>> Please do not hesitate to ask whatever questions you like, but you
> >>>> will
> >>>> need
> >>>> to get your local information from local clubs. I think that Montana
> > has
> >>>> only one district, although some states have more than one. There
> >>>> may
> >>>> also
> >>>> be a piece of Canada in the same district as Montana .
> >
> >>>> If you use the internet, there is a huge Lions Web Site at
> >>>> www.lionsclubs.org.
> >
> >>>> Ramona Walhof
> >>>> NFB Lions co-chair
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
> >>>> To: <nfb-lions at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 5:52 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Nfb-lions] New member
> >
> >
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>> I am Dar Aldrich from Montana,
> >>>>> ,I am trying to join a lions club here in town where I am asked what
> > can
> >>>>> you do for us, we expect you to do for us more than we can do for
> >>>>> you.
> >>>>> I know there are lions all over the country, I wish to learn what
> >>>>> all
> > of
> >>>>> you are doing, so that I can fit rite in.
> >>>>> One of the huge problems is transportation here in town.
> >>>>> We already use the cabs where to go to events by cab all over town
> > would
> >>>>> be a huge expense.
> >>>>> Can you share what you do.
> >>>>> this is with transportation.
> >>>>> I am willing to pay my $150 in July with the rest of the folks.
> >>>>> that isn't a problem.
> >>>>> I tried to join another club where they refused to help with
> >>>>> transportation.
> >>>>> I don't have the money to give any organization just so they have
> >>>>> money
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> throw me out.
> >>>>> I want to support them as best as I can.
> >>>>> they call guide dogs service dogs.
> >>>>> I explained that our guide dogs or even seeing eye dogs are just for
> > the
> >>>>> blind.
> >>>>> Here in town they sponser leader dogs for the blind, you would think
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> would give them a clue, blind?
> >>>>> I am wishing to learn how you get to all activities as well as
> >>>>> helping
> >>>>> out.
> >>>>> We have some pretty eldery seniors in the club so I will ask many
> >>>>> questions.
> >>>>> I would like to share what you folks have done.
> >>>>> Thanks again,
> >>>>> I sure appreciate your help.
> >>>>> I am wishing to get out more in the community.
> >
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> --Dar
> >>>>> skype: dmgina23
> >>>>> FB: dmgina
> >>>>> www.twitter.com/dmgina
> >>>>> every saint has a past
> >>>>> every sinner has a future
> >
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> >>> --
> >>> --Dar
> >>> skype: dmgina23
> >>> FB: dmgina
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