[Nfb-science] Nfb-science Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 blind radiologist
Nikhil Dama
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Fri Dec 16 21:56:48 UTC 2011
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> 3. Re: blind radiologist (Mike Freeman)
> 4. Re: blind radiologist (Fred Wurtzel)
> 5. Re: blind radiologist (Jaquiss, Robert)
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> Hi,
>
> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>
> Thanks,
> NIck Dama
>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
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>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>
>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>
>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>
>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>
>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>
>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>
>>>Cheers to all,
>>>
>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>
>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>
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> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:17:06 -0600
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
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> Hello,
>
> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of the
> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays and
> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't a
> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a doctor
> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting that
> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging data
> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NIck Dama
>>
>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
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>>>
>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>
>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>
>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>
>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:13:18 -0800
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
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> I'm afraid such an approach would be beaucoup expensive for day-to-day use
> (as opposed to the teaching environment) as you'd go thru reams of paper and
> that stuff ain't cheap. Also, it would take considerable research and
> possibly some software customization to ensure that the information rendered
> in tactile form was that needed to make a diagnosis. One of the dirty little
> secrets of radiology was how often radiologists missed tumors and the like
> -- and these were *sighted* ones.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:17 PM
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
> Hello,
>
> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of the
>
> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays and
> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't a
>
> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a doctor
>
> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting that
>
> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging data
>
> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NIck Dama
>>
>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
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>>>
>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>
>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>
>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>
>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:19:04 -0500
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
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> Hello,
>
> How can we project this technology forward rather than backward to what we
> already know? Refreshable and virtual imagery seem to me to be the way to
> express this information. Paper may have an appropriate role, but as Mike
> says, it is too limiting. I think of temperature, motion (like vibration)
> or sound as you move a finger over an image to express a characteristic. We
> need a 3-d display like a sphere or something that could include various
> expressions of the data. Now, Mike, you are right about the R&D on this.
> Not cheap, but it follows Kurzweil's thinking, and is conceivable.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:13 AM
> To: 'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
> I'm afraid such an approach would be beaucoup expensive for day-to-day use
> (as opposed to the teaching environment) as you'd go thru reams of paper and
> that stuff ain't cheap. Also, it would take considerable research and
> possibly some software customization to ensure that the information rendered
> in tactile form was that needed to make a diagnosis. One of the dirty little
> secrets of radiology was how often radiologists missed tumors and the like
> -- and these were *sighted* ones.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:17 PM
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
> Hello,
>
> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of the
>
> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays and
> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't a
>
> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a doctor
>
> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting that
>
> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging data
>
> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NIck Dama
>>
>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>
>>> 1. Request for Beta Testers (David Andrews)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>
>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>
>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>
>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>
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> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:16:02 -0800
> From: "Jaquiss, Robert" <RJaquiss at nfb.org>
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
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> <nfb-rdcomm at nfbcal.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
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> Hello Nikhil:
>
> I am writing in response to your note. I have read three of the other
> replies. There is a company, SensAble Technologies that sells a product
> known as the Phantom arm. This device is intended to feel and manipulate
> virtual objects in 3d space. It is certainly possible to feel 3d objects.
> The user holds either a pen shaped device or inserts their finger into a
> "thimble". The pen or thimble is connected to a set of jointed arms somewhat
> like a desk lamp. The joints are equipped with resolvers and stepping motors
> which allow the user to feel an object. The Phantom arm is used in CADCAM
> applications, so this is a tried and true product and has been around for
> well over a decade. I think a system is in the $6,000 to $10,000 range.
> There are some very small scale ystems for less. We need to get our hands on
> one of these systems and do some research. From what I know, I am guessing
> that some JAWS scripts will be needed. I am reasonably certain that software
> exists to convert MRI data into a form that the Phantom can deal with. Some
> surgeons already use MRI and CatScan data to produce 3d models. These models
> are used to rehearse complex operations.
>
> As for producing x-ray or MRI images in a tactile form, various
> technologies already exist. With the exception of the Roland LEC printer,
> capsule paper or the Tiger, they are slow. It would take hours to render an
> MRI image into a 3d model. A radiologist has to work faster in order to be
> productive. The various technologies are also not inexpensive. The Phantom
> Arm once bought would run for years. The RP technologies require the use of
> consumables which would drive up the cost of service.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Robert Jaquiss
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Nikhil Dama
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 PM
> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
> Hi,
>
> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>
> Thanks,
> NIck Dama
>
> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
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>>
>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>
>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>
>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>
>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>
>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>
>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>
>>>Cheers to all,
>>>
>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>
>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:33:30 -0500
> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
> To: "'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'"
> <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
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> Hi Robert,
>
> Great! Exactly the ideas I think are adaptable. A 3-d image seems much
> more useful than a tactile 2-d image trying to interpret 3-d data.
>
> warm Regards,
>
> Fred
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:16 AM
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
> Cc: Research and Development Committee (appointed)
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
> Hello Nikhil:
>
> I am writing in response to your note. I have read three of the other
> replies. There is a company, SensAble Technologies that sells a product
> known as the Phantom arm. This device is intended to feel and manipulate
> virtual objects in 3d space. It is certainly possible to feel 3d objects.
> The user holds either a pen shaped device or inserts their finger into a
> "thimble". The pen or thimble is connected to a set of jointed arms somewhat
> like a desk lamp. The joints are equipped with resolvers and stepping motors
> which allow the user to feel an object. The Phantom arm is used in CADCAM
> applications, so this is a tried and true product and has been around for
> well over a decade. I think a system is in the $6,000 to $10,000 range.
> There are some very small scale ystems for less. We need to get our hands on
> one of these systems and do some research. From what I know, I am guessing
> that some JAWS scripts will be needed. I am reasonably certain that software
> exists to convert MRI data into a form that the Phantom can deal with. Some
> surgeons already use MRI and CatScan data to produce 3d models. These models
> are used to rehearse complex operations.
>
> As for producing x-ray or MRI images in a tactile form, various
> technologies already exist. With the exception of the Roland LEC printer,
> capsule paper or the Tiger, they are slow. It would take hours to render an
> MRI image into a 3d model. A radiologist has to work faster in order to be
> productive. The various technologies are also not inexpensive. The Phantom
> Arm once bought would run for years. The RP technologies require the use of
> consumables which would drive up the cost of service.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Robert Jaquiss
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Nikhil Dama
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 PM
> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
> Hi,
>
> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include x-rays, MRI
> scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment would there be
> away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles, so I could read them.
> If I could find away to make this conversion occur. Then I could become a
> radiologist.
>
> Thanks,
> NIck Dama
>
> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
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>>
>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>
>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax, available
>>>from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>
>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax installer
>>>technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit system. Until
>>>relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone else could do about
>>>this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom Scientific updated the
>>>Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit systems. With the holidays,
>>>I've had a chance to figure out how to rebuild the MathTrax installer
>>>for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at least on my machine, it appears to
>>>work.
>>>
>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers who
>>>would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this, you
>>>need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7) 2. JAWS
>>>12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>
>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the Java
>>>Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a little
>>>Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code for
>>>accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know if the
>>>Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The 64-bit
>>>version requires a manual install, which is painfully memorable. Of
>>>course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the whole works for you,
>>>so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>
>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you a
>>>link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still the
>>>32-bit version.
>>>
>>>Cheers to all,
>>>
>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>
>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD) Simulation and Graphics
>>>Branch (ER7) NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:53:16 -0600
> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
> To: "NFB Science and Engineering Division List"
> <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
> Message-ID: <003e01ccbc0a$d3735e70$9e010b43 at yourfsyly0jtwn>
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>
> Good morning everyone,
>
> Something I failed to mention last night is that some procedures such as
> ultrasound employ the use of sound to guide the radiologist or technician to
> locate the organ to be imaged. As for the paper thing such an application
> makes the case for full-page Braille displays or some other refreshable
> Braille technology. If photoform images can be saved in hard-copy they
> should also be saved as digital images that can be reproduced tactially via
> a refreshable Braille device.
>
> By employing multiple senses blind radiologists could prove to be better at
> diagnosing tumors and other conditions sighted radiologists tend to miss due
> to their dependence on a single sense. Perhaps virtual reality could also
> hold an answer for opening up this field to the blind. I've always been
> interested in the field of radiology and may have become an x-ray technician
> if it were possible. Research in to opening up this career to the blind if
> most definitely of interest to me. Again don't let anyone steal your dream.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'" <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
>
> I'm afraid such an approach would be beaucoup expensive for day-to-day use
> (as opposed to the teaching environment) as you'd go thru reams of paper and
> that stuff ain't cheap. Also, it would take considerable research and
> possibly some software customization to ensure that the information rendered
> in tactile form was that needed to make a diagnosis. One of the dirty little
> secrets of radiology was how often radiologists missed tumors and the like
> -- and these were *sighted* ones.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:17 PM
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
> Hello,
>
> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of the
>
> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays and
> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't a
>
> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a doctor
>
> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting that
>
> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging data
>
> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NIck Dama
>>
>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>
>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>
>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>
>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Hi,
How does the Fantom Arm work? Do you know away that we can test it
whether if it would serve my purpose? What company sells a full page
braille display? I could not find any company that sold one. Thanks
for all of the feedback. I am a senior in highschool. Hopefully
someday I can become a radiologist.
Thanks,
Nick Dama
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