[Nfb-science] Nfb-science Digest, Vol 65, Issue 9
Nikhil Dama
nickdama12 at gmail.com
Sun Dec 18 16:50:22 UTC 2011
Hi,
I am serious about becoming a radiologist. So we have to find out how
to adapt the images, so I can understand them.
Thanks,
Nick Dama
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>> 3. Re: blind radiologist (Mike Freeman)
>> 4. Re: blind radiologist (Fred Wurtzel)
>> 5. Re: blind radiologist (Jaquiss, Robert)
>> 6. Re: blind radiologist (Fred Wurtzel)
>> 7. Re: blind radiologist (Peter Donahue)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:54:02 -0600
>> From: Nikhil Dama <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NIck Dama
>>
>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> 1. Request for Beta Testers (David Andrews)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
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>>>
>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>
>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>
>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>
>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>
>>>
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>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:17:06 -0600
>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> To: "NFB Science and Engineering Division List"
>> <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>> Message-ID: <2B4638BEB45243C8B27A7BC19DE0D56A at valuedcf71de43>
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>> reply-type=original
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
>> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of
>> the
>> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays
>> and
>> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't
>> a
>> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a
>> doctor
>> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
>> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting
>> that
>> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging
>> data
>> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
>> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> NIck Dama
>>>
>>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>> 1. Request for Beta Testers (David Andrews)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>>
>>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>>
>>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>>
>>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 21:13:18 -0800
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'"
>> <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>> Message-ID: <007b01ccbbb1$6c9d85d0$45d89170$@panix.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> I'm afraid such an approach would be beaucoup expensive for day-to-day use
>> (as opposed to the teaching environment) as you'd go thru reams of paper
>> and
>> that stuff ain't cheap. Also, it would take considerable research and
>> possibly some software customization to ensure that the information
>> rendered
>> in tactile form was that needed to make a diagnosis. One of the dirty
>> little
>> secrets of radiology was how often radiologists missed tumors and the like
>> -- and these were *sighted* ones.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:17 PM
>> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
>> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of
>> the
>>
>> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays
>> and
>> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't
>> a
>>
>> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a
>> doctor
>>
>> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
>> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting
>> that
>>
>> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging
>> data
>>
>> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
>> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> NIck Dama
>>>
>>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Send Nfb-science mailing list submissions to
>>>> nfb-science at nfbnet.org
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Request for Beta Testers (David Andrews)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>>
>>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>>
>>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>>
>>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:19:04 -0500
>> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
>> To: "'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'"
>> <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>> Message-ID: <000901ccbbec$e762a760$b627f620$@att.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> How can we project this technology forward rather than backward to what we
>> already know? Refreshable and virtual imagery seem to me to be the way to
>> express this information. Paper may have an appropriate role, but as Mike
>> says, it is too limiting. I think of temperature, motion (like vibration)
>> or sound as you move a finger over an image to express a characteristic.
>> We
>> need a 3-d display like a sphere or something that could include various
>> expressions of the data. Now, Mike, you are right about the R&D on this.
>> Not cheap, but it follows Kurzweil's thinking, and is conceivable.
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:13 AM
>> To: 'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>> I'm afraid such an approach would be beaucoup expensive for day-to-day use
>> (as opposed to the teaching environment) as you'd go thru reams of paper
>> and
>> that stuff ain't cheap. Also, it would take considerable research and
>> possibly some software customization to ensure that the information
>> rendered
>> in tactile form was that needed to make a diagnosis. One of the dirty
>> little
>> secrets of radiology was how often radiologists missed tumors and the like
>> -- and these were *sighted* ones.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:17 PM
>> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
>> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of
>> the
>>
>> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays
>> and
>> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't
>> a
>>
>> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a
>> doctor
>>
>> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
>> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting
>> that
>>
>> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging
>> data
>>
>> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
>> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> NIck Dama
>>>
>>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Send Nfb-science mailing list submissions to
>>>> nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>>>
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>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-science_nfbnet.org
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>>>> nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>>>>
>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>>> nfb-science-owner at nfbnet.org
>>>>
>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>>> than "Re: Contents of Nfb-science digest..."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Request for Beta Testers (David Andrews)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>>
>>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>>
>>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>>
>>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 05:16:02 -0800
>> From: "Jaquiss, Robert" <RJaquiss at nfb.org>
>> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Research and Development Committee \(appointed\)"
>> <nfb-rdcomm at nfbcal.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Hello Nikhil:
>>
>> I am writing in response to your note. I have read three of the other
>> replies. There is a company, SensAble Technologies that sells a product
>> known as the Phantom arm. This device is intended to feel and manipulate
>> virtual objects in 3d space. It is certainly possible to feel 3d objects.
>> The user holds either a pen shaped device or inserts their finger into a
>> "thimble". The pen or thimble is connected to a set of jointed arms
>> somewhat
>> like a desk lamp. The joints are equipped with resolvers and stepping
>> motors
>> which allow the user to feel an object. The Phantom arm is used in CADCAM
>> applications, so this is a tried and true product and has been around for
>> well over a decade. I think a system is in the $6,000 to $10,000 range.
>> There are some very small scale ystems for less. We need to get our hands
>> on
>> one of these systems and do some research. From what I know, I am guessing
>> that some JAWS scripts will be needed. I am reasonably certain that
>> software
>> exists to convert MRI data into a form that the Phantom can deal with.
>> Some
>> surgeons already use MRI and CatScan data to produce 3d models. These
>> models
>> are used to rehearse complex operations.
>>
>> As for producing x-ray or MRI images in a tactile form, various
>> technologies already exist. With the exception of the Roland LEC printer,
>> capsule paper or the Tiger, they are slow. It would take hours to render
>> an
>> MRI image into a 3d model. A radiologist has to work faster in order to be
>> productive. The various technologies are also not inexpensive. The Phantom
>> Arm once bought would run for years. The RP technologies require the use
>> of
>> consumables which would drive up the cost of service.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Jaquiss
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
>> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
>> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Nikhil Dama
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 PM
>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NIck Dama
>>
>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
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>>>
>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>
>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>
>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>
>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:33:30 -0500
>> From: "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net>
>> To: "'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'"
>> <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>> Message-ID: <001901ccbbf7$4d734d20$e859e760$@att.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Great! Exactly the ideas I think are adaptable. A 3-d image seems much
>> more useful than a tactile 2-d image trying to interpret 3-d data.
>>
>> warm Regards,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jaquiss, Robert
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 8:16 AM
>> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
>> Cc: Research and Development Committee (appointed)
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>> Hello Nikhil:
>>
>> I am writing in response to your note. I have read three of the other
>> replies. There is a company, SensAble Technologies that sells a product
>> known as the Phantom arm. This device is intended to feel and manipulate
>> virtual objects in 3d space. It is certainly possible to feel 3d objects.
>> The user holds either a pen shaped device or inserts their finger into a
>> "thimble". The pen or thimble is connected to a set of jointed arms
>> somewhat
>> like a desk lamp. The joints are equipped with resolvers and stepping
>> motors
>> which allow the user to feel an object. The Phantom arm is used in CADCAM
>> applications, so this is a tried and true product and has been around for
>> well over a decade. I think a system is in the $6,000 to $10,000 range.
>> There are some very small scale ystems for less. We need to get our hands
>> on
>> one of these systems and do some research. From what I know, I am guessing
>> that some JAWS scripts will be needed. I am reasonably certain that
>> software
>> exists to convert MRI data into a form that the Phantom can deal with.
>> Some
>> surgeons already use MRI and CatScan data to produce 3d models. These
>> models
>> are used to rehearse complex operations.
>>
>> As for producing x-ray or MRI images in a tactile form, various
>> technologies already exist. With the exception of the Roland LEC printer,
>> capsule paper or the Tiger, they are slow. It would take hours to render
>> an
>> MRI image into a 3d model. A radiologist has to work faster in order to be
>> productive. The various technologies are also not inexpensive. The Phantom
>> Arm once bought would run for years. The RP technologies require the use
>> of
>> consumables which would drive up the cost of service.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert Jaquiss
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
>> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
>> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Nikhil Dama
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:54 PM
>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include x-rays,
>> MRI
>> scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment would there be
>> away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles, so I could read
>> them.
>> If I could find away to make this conversion occur. Then I could become a
>> radiologist.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> NIck Dama
>>
>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>
>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax, available
>>>>from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>
>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax installer
>>>>technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit system. Until
>>>>relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone else could do about
>>>>this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom Scientific updated the
>>>>Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit systems. With the holidays,
>>>>I've had a chance to figure out how to rebuild the MathTrax installer
>>>>for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at least on my machine, it appears to
>>>>work.
>>>>
>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers who
>>>>would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this, you
>>>>need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7) 2. JAWS
>>>>12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>
>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the Java
>>>>Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a little
>>>>Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code for
>>>>accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know if the
>>>>Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The 64-bit
>>>>version requires a manual install, which is painfully memorable. Of
>>>>course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the whole works for you,
>>>>so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you a
>>>>link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still the
>>>>32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>
>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD) Simulation and Graphics
>>>>Branch (ER7) NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:53:16 -0600
>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> To: "NFB Science and Engineering Division List"
>> <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>> Message-ID: <003e01ccbc0a$d3735e70$9e010b43 at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>> Something I failed to mention last night is that some procedures such
>> as
>> ultrasound employ the use of sound to guide the radiologist or technician
>> to
>> locate the organ to be imaged. As for the paper thing such an application
>> makes the case for full-page Braille displays or some other refreshable
>> Braille technology. If photoform images can be saved in hard-copy they
>> should also be saved as digital images that can be reproduced tactially
>> via
>> a refreshable Braille device.
>>
>> By employing multiple senses blind radiologists could prove to be better
>> at
>> diagnosing tumors and other conditions sighted radiologists tend to miss
>> due
>> to their dependence on a single sense. Perhaps virtual reality could also
>> hold an answer for opening up this field to the blind. I've always been
>> interested in the field of radiology and may have become an x-ray
>> technician
>> if it were possible. Research in to opening up this career to the blind if
>> most definitely of interest to me. Again don't let anyone steal your
>> dream.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'NFB Science and Engineering Division List'" <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>>
>> I'm afraid such an approach would be beaucoup expensive for day-to-day use
>> (as opposed to the teaching environment) as you'd go thru reams of paper
>> and
>> that stuff ain't cheap. Also, it would take considerable research and
>> possibly some software customization to ensure that the information
>> rendered
>> in tactile form was that needed to make a diagnosis. One of the dirty
>> little
>> secrets of radiology was how often radiologists missed tumors and the like
>> -- and these were *sighted* ones.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:17 PM
>> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A technology called Photoform is being developed to convert visual
>> images in to tactile ones. It has been used to produce tactile images of
>> the
>>
>> planets, the moon, and other celestial objects. Considering that x-rays
>> and
>> other diagnostic images are now produced and stored digitally why couldn't
>> a
>>
>> technology like Photoform be used to turn them in to tactual images a
>> doctor
>>
>> or a radiologist could use to make a diagnosis. Contact the NFB Jernigan
>> Institute for further information about Photoform. I've been suggesting
>> that
>>
>> tactile drawings and diagrams could be produced from diagnostic imaging
>> data
>>
>> with Photoform not just for use in diagnosing illnesses, but for teaching
>> purposes as well. Don't let anyone steal your dream!
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Nikhil Dama" <nickdama12 at gmail.com>
>> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:54 PM
>> Subject: [Nfb-science] blind radiologist
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I was looking at the description of this job and I found out tha
>>> radiologists have to read many diagrams. These diagrams include
>>> x-rays, MRI scans, or other types of scans. WIth my vision impairment
>>> would there be away that the x-rays could be converted into tactiles,
>>> so I could read them. If I could find away to make this conversion
>>> occur. Then I could become a radiologist.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> NIck Dama
>>>
>>> On 12/14/11, nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org
>>> <nfb-science-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Send Nfb-science mailing list submissions to
>>>> nfb-science at nfbnet.org
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>>>>
>>>> 1. Request for Beta Testers (David Andrews)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:01:37 -0600
>>>> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>> To: nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] Request for Beta Testers
>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000039762266 at mailfront4.g2host.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Shelton, Robert O. (JSC-ER711)" <robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov>
>>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:21:43 -0600
>>>>>Subject: [Rocketon] Request for Beta Testers
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi everyone. A few years ago, I led a group which developed an
>>>>>application for access to graphical mathematics -- MathTrax,
>>>>>available from http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/mathtrax
>>>>>
>>>>>As often happens, funding for upgrades and maintenance was never
>>>>>provided, and the development team moved on to other projects, but
>>>>>MathTrax continues to have a strong following. Unfortunately, the
>>>>>Windows installer for MathTrax was only intended for 32-bit systems,
>>>>>and while the application installed by the current MathTrax
>>>>>installer technically works, it isn't accessible on a 64-bit
>>>>>system. Until relatively recently, there was nothing I or anyone
>>>>>else could do about this; however, last spring, Oracle and Freedom
>>>>>Scientific updated the Java Access Bridge to work with 64-bit
>>>>>systems. With the holidays, I've had a chance to figure out how to
>>>>>rebuild the MathTrax installer for 64-bit Windows systems, and, at
>>>>>least on my machine, it appears to work.
>>>>>
>>>>>What I'd like to ask is whether there might be several volunteers
>>>>>who would be willing to test my new installer. In order to do this,
>>>>>you need to have 1. A 64-bit Windows system (Vista or Windows 7)
>>>>>2. JAWS 12.0.1170 or later -- any version of JAWS 13 should be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be particularly useful if your system does not have the
>>>>>Java Access Bridge, because the installer for MathTrax must create a
>>>>>little Java environment fitted with all the Java Access Bridge code
>>>>>for accessibility. If you have a 64-bit system, and you don't know
>>>>>if the Java Access Bridge was installed, it probably wasn't. The
>>>>>64-bit version requires a manual install, which is painfully
>>>>>memorable. Of course, the MathTrax installer takes care of the
>>>>>whole works for you, so you don't have to fiddle with the JAB at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please let me know if you're willing to test. I'll need to send you
>>>>>a link to the installer as the one on prime.jsc.nasa.gov is still
>>>>>the 32-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers to all,
>>>>>
>>>>>--Robert Shelton
>>>>>
>>>>>Dr. Robert Shelton
>>>>>Lead, JSC Engineering Orbital Dynamics (JEOD)
>>>>>Simulation and Graphics Branch (ER7)
>>>>>NASA Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center
>>>>>2101 NASA Parkway
>>>>>Houston, TX. 77058
>>>>>V: 281-483-5901
>>>>>E: robert.o.shelton at nasa.gov
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> Hi,
>
> How does the Fantom Arm work? Do you know away that we can test it
> whether if it would serve my purpose? What company sells a full page
> braille display? I could not find any company that sold one. Thanks
> for all of the feedback. I am a senior in highschool. Hopefully
> someday I can become a radiologist.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick Dama
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 14:20:57 -0800
> From: "Jaquiss, Robert" <RJaquiss at nfb.org>
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] Nfb-science Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8 blind
> radiologist
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> Hello Nik:
>
> At this time, no multiline Braille displays exist. As for obtaining a
> Phantom arm, possibly one could be borrowed. If JAWS scripts need to be
> written, then someone has to be hired to do that. NFB manage will need to
> decide how or if to proceed.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
> Robert Jaquiss
> National Federation of the Blind
> 200 East Wells Street at Jernigan Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21230
> Phone: 410-659-9314, ext. 2422
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Hi,
>
> How does the Fantom Arm work? Do you know away that we can test it
> whether if it would serve my purpose? What company sells a full page
> braille display? I could not find any company that sold one. Thanks
> for all of the feedback. I am a senior in highschool. Hopefully
> someday I can become a radiologist.
>
> Thanks,
> Nick Dama
>
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