[Nfb-science] intro biology lab accessibility

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Sat Feb 18 15:47:05 UTC 2012


I used a lab assistant.  I learned everything and just interpreted my 
results.  If you get that stain on your clothes!  Well, it never comes out! 
If you do use an assistant, be sure that its clear that the results and 
conclussions are yours and not anything from the assistant.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephanie Hirst" <sjhhirst at gmail.com>
To: "NFB Science and Engineering Division List" <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] intro biology lab accessibility


> Hi Aleesha, how is your visual acuity?  I tried gram-staining in college
> and didn't do so well at it.  However, there is no reason why you 
> shouldn't
> try.  I think it's important that you explain to people what exactly you
> can and cannot see (to the best of your abilities).
>
> In the field of observation, chance favors only the prepared mind.
>    ~Louis Pasteur, lecture 1854
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Larry D. Keeler 
> <lkeeler at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> it does help to have a rough idea of how you can do the job though.  I've
>> had to talke to instructors and concince them that I would actually be 
>> able
>> to take there classes and also do well!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFB Science and Engineering Division List" <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] intro biology lab accessibility
>>
>>
>>
>>> Dear Aleeha,
>>>
>>> I think that I would start by pinning down your instructors who say you
>>> can not do these things.
>>> Many times, defining the issue can lead to its solution.
>>> Make them be specific.  The more specific they are the more likely you
>>> will be able to come up with a alternative method to do the job.  Have 
>>> them
>>> explain, step by step just what is done and how it is done.
>>> They think as a sighted person thinks and likely dismiss non-visual
>>> methods out of hand.
>>> There is more than one way to skin a cat and that holds true for many
>>> other things as well.
>>> Find out what their objections are and then see if there is another way
>>> to do it , as a Blind person.
>>> Take the procedures, one step at a time, the way they do it, and break 
>>> it
>>> down, step by step, as to how you would do it using your own methods and
>>> then refine them to make them better, faster and more accurate.
>>> As my old engineering firm's slogan use to say, "The difficult we do
>>> immediately, the impossible just takes a little longer."
>>> Let me know what they say. You have thousands of brothers and sisters 
>>> out
>>> here who want to see you succeed.  It is okay to lean on us a little.
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>> Retired Blind Nuclear/Aerospace Materials Engineer
>>> Builder of the Lunar Rovers and the F-117 Stealth Fighter
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleeha Dudley" <
>>> blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:14 AM
>>> Subject: [Nfb-science] intro biology lab accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi all,
>>>>  I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for this issue.  I am
>>>> currently a college freshman and am taking an intro biology course.  I 
>>>> am a
>>>> zoology major and want to go to veterinary school, so this issue is 
>>>> very
>>>> important to me.  I feel as if I am not being included in the lab. The
>>>> instructors have said that I cannot do a gram stain and that I cannot 
>>>> work
>>>> with bacteria.  In my opinion, I can do these things, but is there a 
>>>> way to
>>>> help my instructors see this fact? Is there anything that others have 
>>>> done
>>>> in lab courses such as this to help with the inclusion problem?
>>>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aleeha Dudley
>>>>
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