[Nfb-science] Nfb-science Digest, Vol 81, Issue 9
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Question: what do you guys think about recording the interview ?
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> 1. Re: How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know About
> Vision Loss (Brian Buhrow)
> 2. Re: How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know About
> Vision Loss (Suzanne Germano)
> 3. Re: How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know About
> Vision Loss (rhonda cruz)
> 4. Re: How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know About
> Vision Loss (Nathanael T. Wales)
> 5. Re: How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know About
> Vision Loss (Suzanne Germano)
> 6. Note of Thanks (Christine Szostak)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:06:06 -0700
> From: Brian Buhrow <buhrow at nfbcal.org>
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] How and When to Let Prospective Employers
> Know About Vision Loss
> Message-ID: <201304291806.r3TI66nB007131 at lothlorien.nfbcal.org>
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> Hello. I agree with most of what Mike Freeman said except that I
> would suggest disclosing when you arrive at the interview rather than
> before the interview itself. While it may be the case that if an employer
> is going to discriminate they're going to do it whether or not you get to
> the interview, I've found that I'm able to make them feel much more
> comfortable in person rather than letting them stew and worry about what
> might be between the time of disclosure and the interview itself. I've done
> it both ways and I've found that letting them meet me and discovering my
> blindness when they shake my hand really does work much better.
> Alo, keep in mind, that it may be that if you're going into a line of
> work that is a result of your education, chances are good that your
> prospective colleagues will know who you are and know of your blindness
> before you even get the application turned in. If this is true and you are
> liked and respected by them, your blindness will still be an issue, but it
> will be one everyone is willing to work around and accomodate as best they
> can. Again, your confidence and comfort level with your blindness will set
> the tone for everyone to follow. If you don't let it get in your way, they
> won't either.
>
> Hope that helps.
> -Brian
>
> On Apr 27, 3:52pm, "Mike Freeman" wrote:
> } Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know
> } Christine:
> }
> } Whether to disclose one's blindness depends upon what jobs you are seeking
> } and, of course, on your preference. In the case of jobs with the Federal
> } government, it is to your advantage to disclose blindness on the application
> } as you are then eligible for being hired on Schedule A which is a much less
> } onerous process -- both for you and for those hiring you.
> }
> } In most other cases, I advise disclosing your blindness -- and I would call
> } it that and if pressed, say you had some remaining vision if this is so --
> } after you've been scheduled for an interview. I know some people advocate
> } hitting the employer cold but I believe this to be counterproductive. After
> } all, you may have to discuss what systems and software are being used and
> } whether these can be made accessible and/or what reasonable accommodations
> } you might need. Be prepared to answer questions about your blindness both
> } before the interview and while it is being conducted but try to steer the
> } conversation so that your blindness isn't the sole subject of the interview
> } because this short-changes your opportunity to convince the interviewer that
> } you are the right person for the job etc.
> }
> } Get the interview invitation in writing (email is okay) and, after
> } disclosure of your blindness, if there are suddenly no positions available
> } for you, get this in written form also. This lays the groundwork for legal
> } action should this become necessary.
> }
> } Some employers are sufficiently savvy to be reluctant to put things in
> } writing if they are prejudiced kbut it looks pretty squirrely if they won't
> } do this.
> }
> } Good luck!
> }
> } Mike Freeman
> }
> }
> } -----Original Message-----
> } From: Nfb-science [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> } Christine Szostak
> } Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:21 PM
> } To: social-sciences-list at nfbnet.org; NFB Science and Engineering Division
> } List
> } Subject: [Nfb-science] How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know About
> } Vision Loss
> }
> } Hi All,
> } I am on the job market right now, and am wondering if others hear could
> } share when they noted their vision loss (e.g. during the application, after
> } the application but before the interview, during the interview, after
> } accepting the job...) with prospective employers. Also, how did you approach
> } the subject? In other words, how did you let the prospective employer know
> } of your vision loss (e.g., terminology used, how it was brought up...).
> } Many thanks,
> } Christine
> } Christine M. Szostak
> } Doctoral Candidate and Research Consultant
> } Language Perception Laboratory
> } Department of Psychology, Cognitive Area
> } The Ohio State University
> } Columbus, Ohio
> } szostak.1 at osu.edu
> } www.soundresearchconsulting.wordpress.com
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>> -- End of excerpt from "Mike Freeman"
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> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:16:34 -0700
> From: Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu>
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> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] How and When to Let Prospective Employers
> Know About Vision Loss
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> I also wonder about this. I am partially sighted and my biggest question
> comes with careers fairs at my university. Because I don't use a cane or
> dog my visual impairment is not obvious. I do however have severe light
> sensitivity so I wear red contacts and squint. So I feel at a career fair I
> am almost better off telling them about my vision then make them wonder
> what's up. Is she on drugs? which many people have thought due to the
> squinting. But I also know that at career fairs they may just weed me out
> once they know because you don't' get the chance to really explain how it
> is not a factor on the job.
>
> Also on the job hunt front, How does voc rehab view summer internships? Do
> they consider you employable and stop your eligibility? Also SSDI how do
> they view it? Does the months just start counting toward the 9 months of
> substantial gainful employment?
>
> I was told in a class that you cannot just graduate with a degree. That you
> really need internships, research, volunteering etc and I feel especially
> with our vision we have to almost be far superior as a candiate to get the
> job.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Brian Buhrow <buhrow at nfbcal.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello. I agree with most of what Mike Freeman said except that I
>> would suggest disclosing when you arrive at the interview rather than
>> before the interview itself. While it may be the case that if an employer
>> is going to discriminate they're going to do it whether or not you get to
>> the interview, I've found that I'm able to make them feel much more
>> comfortable in person rather than letting them stew and worry about what
>> might be between the time of disclosure and the interview itself. I've done
>> it both ways and I've found that letting them meet me and discovering my
>> blindness when they shake my hand really does work much better.
>> Alo, keep in mind, that it may be that if you're going into a line
>> of
>> work that is a result of your education, chances are good that your
>> prospective colleagues will know who you are and know of your blindness
>> before you even get the application turned in. If this is true and you are
>> liked and respected by them, your blindness will still be an issue, but it
>> will be one everyone is willing to work around and accomodate as best they
>> can. Again, your confidence and comfort level with your blindness will set
>> the tone for everyone to follow. If you don't let it get in your way, they
>> won't either.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Apr 27, 3:52pm, "Mike Freeman" wrote:
>> } Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know
>> } Christine:
>> }
>> } Whether to disclose one's blindness depends upon what jobs you are
>> seeking
>> } and, of course, on your preference. In the case of jobs with the Federal
>> } government, it is to your advantage to disclose blindness on the
>> application
>> } as you are then eligible for being hired on Schedule A which is a much
>> less
>> } onerous process -- both for you and for those hiring you.
>> }
>> } In most other cases, I advise disclosing your blindness -- and I would
>> call
>> } it that and if pressed, say you had some remaining vision if this is so
>> --
>> } after you've been scheduled for an interview. I know some people advocate
>> } hitting the employer cold but I believe this to be counterproductive.
>> After
>> } all, you may have to discuss what systems and software are being used and
>> } whether these can be made accessible and/or what reasonable
>> accommodations
>> } you might need. Be prepared to answer questions about your blindness both
>> } before the interview and while it is being conducted but try to steer the
>> } conversation so that your blindness isn't the sole subject of the
>> interview
>> } because this short-changes your opportunity to convince the interviewer
>> that
>> } you are the right person for the job etc.
>> }
>> } Get the interview invitation in writing (email is okay) and, after
>> } disclosure of your blindness, if there are suddenly no positions
>> available
>> } for you, get this in written form also. This lays the groundwork for
>> legal
>> } action should this become necessary.
>> }
>> } Some employers are sufficiently savvy to be reluctant to put things in
>> } writing if they are prejudiced kbut it looks pretty squirrely if they
>> won't
>> } do this.
>> }
>> } Good luck!
>> }
>> } Mike Freeman
>> }
>> }
>> } -----Original Message-----
>> } From: Nfb-science [mailto:nfb-science-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> } Christine Szostak
>> } Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 3:21 PM
>> } To: social-sciences-list at nfbnet.org; NFB Science and Engineering
>> Division
>> } List
>> } Subject: [Nfb-science] How and When to Let Prospective Employers Know
>> About
>> } Vision Loss
>> }
>> } Hi All,
>> } I am on the job market right now, and am wondering if others hear could
>> } share when they noted their vision loss (e.g. during the application,
>> after
>> } the application but before the interview, during the interview, after
>> } accepting the job...) with prospective employers. Also, how did you
>> approach
>> } the subject? In other words, how did you let the prospective employer
>> know
>> } of your vision loss (e.g., terminology used, how it was brought up...).
>> } Many thanks,
>> } Christine
>> } Christine M. Szostak
>> } Doctoral Candidate and Research Consultant
>> } Language Perception Laboratory
>> } Department of Psychology, Cognitive Area
>> } The Ohio State University
>> } Columbus, Ohio
>> } szostak.1 at osu.edu
>> } www.soundresearchconsulting.wordpress.com
>> } _______________________________________________
>> } Nfb-science mailing list
>> } Nfb-science at nfbnet.org
>> } http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfb-science_nfbnet.org
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>>> -- End of excerpt from "Mike Freeman"
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:17:39 -0700
> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> To: NFB Science and Engineering Division List <nfb-science at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nfb-science] How and When to Let Prospective Employers
> Know About Vision Loss
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> hi i'm totally blind, with a little bit of vision left.
> but i would tell my future boss in the in the interview.
> i use a guide dog.
> so. it works fine.
> i use voice over.
> & braille.
> for reading info.
> so. i'm looking forward to a job.
> i'm greatful, that i will be able to work with my family.
> doing costumer service.
> work.
>
>
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Suzanne Germano wrote:
>
>> I also wonder about this. I am partially sighted and my biggest question
>> comes with careers fairs at my university. Because I don't use a cane or
>> dog my visual impairment is not obvious. I do however have severe light
>> sensitivity so I wear red contacts and squint. So I feel at a career fair I
>> am almost better off telling them about my vision then make them wonder
>> what's up. Is she on drugs? which many people have thought due to the
>> squinting. But I also know that at career fairs they may just weed me out
>> once they know because you don't' get the chance to really explain how it
>> is not a factor on the job.
>>
>> Also on the job hunt front, How does voc rehab view summer internships? Do
>> they consider you employable and stop your eligibility? Also SSDI how do
>> they view it? Does the months just start counting toward the 9 months of
>> substantial gainful employment?
>>
>> I was told in a class that you cannot just graduate with a degree. That you
>> really need internships, research, volunteering etc and I feel especially
>> with our vision we have to almost be far superior as a candiate to get the
>> job.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Brian Buhrow <buhrow at nfbcal.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello. I agree with most of what Mike Freeman said except that I
>>> would suggest disclosing when you arrive at the interview rather than
>>> before the interview itself. While it may be the case that if an employer
>>> is going to discriminate they're going to do it whether or not you get to
>>> the interview, I've found that I'm able to make them feel much more
>>> comfortable in person rather than letting them stew and worry about what
>>> might be between the time of disclosure and the interview itself. I've done
>>> it both ways and I've found that letting them meet me and discovering my
>>> blindness when they shake my hand really does work much better.
>>> Alo, keep in mind, that it may be that if y
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